European Media Slanting Iraq Coverage: BIG SURPRISE! |
| Posted by: Curley Joe | | SLOVAKIA LEADER HITS EUROPEAN MEDIA FOR ANTI-BUSH BIAS: From The Washington Times: "The prime minister of Slovakia yesterday blamed the media for unfairly turning the European public against President Bush by negatively slanting coverage on Iraq. After meeting with Mr. Bush twice in less than a week, Prime Minister Mikulas Dzurinda told reporters that the president also blamed the press for portraying him as eager to invade Iran to eradicate its nuclear program."
By Bill Sammon
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
BRATISLAVA, Slovakia -- The prime minister of Slovakia yesterday blamed the media for unfairly turning the European public against President Bush by negatively slanting coverage on Iraq.
After meeting with Mr. Bush twice in less than a week, Prime Minister Mikulas Dzurinda told reporters that the president also blamed the press for portraying him as eager to invade Iran to eradicate its nuclear program.
"President Bush told me in Brussels: 'I am so unhappy that media creates the picture that Bush wants war in Iran. This is crazy,' " Mr. Dzurinda told a small group of reporters over lunch.
The prime minister was reminded that while the governments of Central and Eastern Europe supported Operation Iraqi Freedom, the populace was much more skeptical, according to polls.
Mr. Dzurinda responded by telling the journalists, including one from CNN, that he was "shocked" to see media outlets like CNN and the British Broadcasting Corp. (BBC) showing "only American soldiers killing people. But nobody was able to show Saddam Hussein, who killed many, many thousands of Iraqi people."
"It was impossible to see a real picture of this regime," he lamented. "And the result is the public is one day strongly against Bush. 'Bush loves war,' he's 'new terrorist,' and so on and so on."
The prime minister predicted that it is "only a question of time when people in Slovakia, in Germany, in European countries, will understand more that this activity were necessary. And the world, without Saddam Hussein, is much more democratic than before."
Still, plenty of Slovaks braved nasty weather to give an enthusiastic reception to Mr. Bush's speech yesterday at a Bratislava square where the protests that brought down communism 15 years ago began.
When he told the crowd of thousands that "the American people are proud to call you allies and friends and brothers in the cause of freedom," his audience exploded with applause.
After the speech was over, Mr. Bush went into the crowd and was swamped by enthusiastic Slovaks -- the first time he pressed the flesh during his five-day trip to Europe.
Foreign Minister Eduard Kukan said after the speech that "the meeting in the square was fantastic."
Mr. Dzurinda, who grew up under communist oppression in the Soviet bloc, said nations such as his were more supportive of Operation Iraqi Freedom because they remembered communism. Slovakia has sent troops to Afghanistan and Iraq.
"I spent many years under tyranny," he said. "So I completely understand what it means to fight for democracy -- don't take this for granted.
"Maybe this is why I understand better than Chirac or Schroeder," he added, referring to French President Jacques Chirac and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, both of whom opposed the Iraq war.
Mr. Dzurinda also faulted Mr. Chirac and Mr. Schroeder for not understanding Mr. Bush's decision to abandon diplomacy and invade Iraq.
"I understand, [with] the president of the United States, that this is impossible to wait forever," he said. "I hope that the German chancellor and French president understand more today than yesterday."
Mr. Dzurinda said he had been meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin on April 9, 2003, when the statue of Saddam was pulled down in Baghdad, signaling the end of the dictator's regime.
Mr. Dzurinda said Mr. Putin, whose nation had been one of the prime suppliers of weapons and political support to the Saddam regime, launched into a 25-minute discussion that "was more lecture than dialogue."
"I was happy," the prime minister recalled. "President Putin was not so happy.
"He told me that the United States missed the chance to be a moral victor," he said. "He told me it would be better to withdraw forces." | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: HECK! | | News report showing Dubbs in a negative light. I'm sure that was hard.
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| Posted by: Inner City Blues | |
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HECK said this in post #2 :
News report showing Dubbs in a negative light. I'm sure that was hard.
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The media just needs to learn to turn a negative into a positive, they're not trying hard enough, at least the president is:
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Now where are those WMD! 
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| Posted by: Sayzak | | Maybe the joke was in bad taste, because hundreds of soldiers were dead at that point in the war and more were dying daily. But I would be willing to believe that most of the soldiers and even some of their family members laughed with the president. it was (and still is in many places) believed that there were WMDs in Iraq or that Saddam sold them, moved them, or that they were destroyed an no one could verify that. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Inner City Blues | |
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Sayzak said this in post #4 :
Maybe the joke was in bad taste, because hundreds of soldiers were dead at that point in the war and more were dying daily. But I would be willing to believe that most of the soldiers and even some of their family members laughed with the president. it was (and still is in many places) believed that there were WMDs in Iraq or that Saddam sold them, moved them, or that they were destroyed an no one could verify that. |
Don't mind my post Sayzak, I was merely posting a dig at our thread starter because in the process of being a troll, he completely missed how much of a hypocrite he is.
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| Posted by: Curley Joe | | Yeah, the only difference is that President Bush understands and supports and respects the troops and what they do. Classless, peace-at-all-costs liberal gasbags like Chris Rock and those in this forum do not. You know it, I know it, the troops know it, the troops' families know it and the American people know it…
Hence, four more years.
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| Posted by: HECK! | |
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Sayzak said this in post #4 :
Maybe the joke was in bad taste, because hundreds of soldiers were dead at that point in the war and more were dying daily. But I would be willing to believe that most of the soldiers and even some of their family members laughed with the president. it was (and still is in many places) believed that there were WMDs in Iraq or that Saddam sold them, moved them, or that they were destroyed an no one could verify that. |
It's a fact they had WMD's... the U.S. gave them to Iraq. They probably gave them away to another country to battle a mutual enemy. Unfortunately for Iraq, only we can do that.
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| Posted by: HECK! | |
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Curley Joe said this in post #6 :
You know it, I know it, the troops know it |
"Am I a defender of freedom, or a pawn in a campaign of tyranny?"
From: John M. Duffy
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 3:05 PM
To: soldiers@michaelmoore.com
Subject: Am I a defender of freedom, or a pawn in a campaign of tyranny?
I am a 28yr old SSgt in the USAF with about 7 years of service currently serving in the Midwest USA. Watching our brothers and sisters come home horribly maimed, burned and mutilated fills me with rage. And some say they are the lucky ones as opposed to the hundreds killed in an unjust "war."
Having served in the Persian Gulf during the Enduring Freedom campaign and the onset of the current debacle...I have developed great distrust for my commander in chief and in fact, some in the chain of command who unquestionably support his intentions. This conflict (not a war, since Congress never declared so) has no logic or purpose. Joining military service didn't include a lobotomy -- I still retain the right and ability of thought. However, for the most part, I feel that many of those serving (that have not deployed and seen it first hand) have been convinced of this imaginary threat and resent any fellow serviceman who questions it. It is sad that the patriotism bandwagon that most Americans have hopped has perpetuated this notion that Iraq somehow posed a threat and was connected to 9/11 in some way. In fact, I feel that this idea has been imprinted into our psyche and many people would now be convinced that there were Iraqis aboard those planes. If you repeat something enough times, no matter how absurd, people someday will begin to believe it.
Another troubling pattern that has developed in America is in the overuse of the word "terrorist." It has been redefined to describe any person who would oppose the decisions or actions of the USA. If you invade someone's country- do they not have the right or duty to resist? The Iraqis resist our rule and the administration calls them terrorists. I call them patriots. If the situation were reversed and North Korea was attempting to indoctrinate communism into the American way of life, would there not be resistance by Americans? In America we have that right and duty. If you follow their definition of terrorist...it would include our ancestors who opposed British rule in the Revolutionary War- Including General and later President George Washington.
Personally, I am torn between my love for my country and desire to serve to DEFEND America, and my conscience. I try to tell myself that I am distanced from the actual fighting, but it does no good. My grandfather served in WWII and is a great man for what he did (some might say a hero). No matter how many typical Americans say that they are proud of us for defending their freedom...I don't feel that distinguished and I don't think I'm alone.
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Four more years scary? Not if I have a stake in the oil business or have a fat government contract.
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| Posted by: Inner City Blues | |
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Curley Joe said this in post #6 :
Yeah, the only difference is that President Bush understands and supports and respects the troops and what they do. Classless, peace-at-all-costs liberal gasbags like Chris Rock and those in this forum do not. You know it, I know it, the troops know it, the troops' families know it and the American people know it…
Hence, four more years.
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The fact that you keep repeating Bush was reelected means nothing to me. I really don't care since I said I expected him to win. And still, that doesn't take away from the fact that you're just a trolling hypocrite that has nothing to comeback with. 
I don't respect "the troops." Yeah I don't respect my family members who are over there right now, I won't even take the time to respond to that idiotic comment.
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| Posted by: Curley Joe | |
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HECK said this in post #8 :
"Am I a defender of freedom, or a pawn in a campaign of tyranny?"
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You're a pawn in a campaign of tyranny—and I'm a troll. 
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| Posted by: HECK! | | Actually, that was the title of John M. Duffy's letter, not a quote from good ol' HECK.
As for you being a troll... well, 'nyuck 'nyuck. 
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| Posted by: HECK! | | Oh, my silly Curley Joe. What ever would we do without you're sheepish candor or the faux altruism of the thumping con's.
I just thought of a catch phrase for the new far-right: it's that scene from Animal House where Kevin Bacon is getting hazed into the fraternity yelling, "thank you sir, may I have another!"
Keeping swinging away, Dubya.
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| Posted by: Curley Joe | | Michael Savage contends that 'Liberalism is a mental disorder.'
Well, he's partly right.
Actually it's much worse. A person suffering from a mental disorder, generally speaking, has little choice regarding his/her malady. He/she seeks medical attention and is considered a patient. A liberal, on the other hand, has chosen into his/her dark existence. A liberal's disorder is one of a chronic and self-imposed personal confinement into a place of unhappiness and perpetual whining. Liberals almost seem to enjoy—perhaps even thrive—in their malcontented state of being.
Don't get me wrong, this is a seriously damaging mental state. A liberal's life could easily become a perpetual, unfulfilled search for someone to blame for his/her unhappiness, anger and lack of success that always seems to mysteriously befall only him/her.
The "establishment" is commonly the readiest target for the liberal. After all, what is a juicier target than this bully-government that is responsible for 'global oppression,' 'open agression' and nothing short of good-ol-fashined, plain and simple 'imperialism'—aka Bush-country?
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| Posted by: HECK! | | "Wait, someone disagrees with my staunch conservative views, they must be a liberal."
How can anyone think you're not amusing. Jibber-jabber like that is priceless.
Just remember, it's never to late to stray from the herd.
Until then, keep on 'nyuck'n
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| Posted by: USA1 | | CJ,
What happened to the thread topic here? Everytime a Liberal get's on the subject, they resort to this crap. No defence only critisizm and no solution. Typical Kerry subordinate.
I think you were right with the mental disorder thing. It sure comes through on a few here. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: nikiTa | | Yeah, like barfing/regurgitating the words "liberalism is a mental disorder" really is on topic with "European Media Slanting Iraq Coverage: BIG SURPRISE!" 
There are way too many self proclaimed yet highly unqualified "shrinks" on this board. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Curley Joe | |
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USA1 said this in post #17 :
CJ,
What happened to the thread topic here?
Everytime a Liberal get's on the subject, they resort to this crap. No defence only critisizm and no solution. Typical Kerry subordinate.
I think you were right with the mental disorder thing. It sure comes through on a few here. |
The thread topic went the way of the BUT-monkeys…
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