whats better intel or Athlon

Computers & Internet Forum

i have recently got a new computer, all my old computers have an intel processor, but my new one in AMD 64 Athlon.

the question i have is, which is the better company / processor, Athlon or Intel

Well try this out: which processor ihas a native 64bit architecture and which does not? I've not purchased an Athlon yet myself as I don't upgrade my personal PC hardware very often (too busy USING my machine to upgrade it!), but I use them Athlon's on a regular basis for business and dollar for dollar, they can't be beat (yet).

I agree with Sean. I bought a Celeron, but only because the overall deal was really good. The centrino technology gives an edge to Intel, but only for laptops.

M.

i know, it was dead cheap, a 200 GB hard drive cost around £600. they had £100 of the normal price, and i got 10% off cos my bro works in the place, but still cheap for the specs. and they gave me a 17" screen instead of a 14", so im happy

the reason i broght a new comp is the back light of my laptop broke, and apparently its really expensive to repair, the warnety had just ran out as well. (its been an ongoing problem.)

i got a desktop because;
1- its easier to upgrade,
2- any probelems are cheaper to fix, you just get a new mouse if id brakes, instead of sending in the whole machene. conveniance

(sorry about spelling)

200GB for £600!? It had better be SCSI for that price. If it's ATA then I'm going to change my business model to start shipping ATA drives to U.K.

Better start asking for contracts Sean.

M.

ok explain ... im computer freindly, but when it comes to exact computer types i have trouble

what does SCSI mean?
what does ATA mean?

do you think i spent too much if its ATA? it was the cheapest in store.

SCSI and ATA.

M.

ok and how am i ment to find out which one it is without taking the frome of the upright. (from just looking at the spec and outside of the case ) all this inards of the computer stuff is giving me a head ach

Let's put it this way: here you can get ATA drives for between 50 and 75 cents per gigabyte. You paid roughly several dollars per gigabyte. Unless you got severely ripped off, or bought it 4 years ago, the price alone puts it in the ball park of SCSI which are more expensive because they're architecturally superior to ATA drives and in most cases operate faster. There's no painless way of identifying the drive type though unless you know what you're looking at.

OK i supose it would be SCSI, its pritty quick. it also has DVD burning (dont know if that makes a difference :lol i supose its a SCSI, most the prices of the computers were about, or just over £1000 and they were only 40 GB to 80 GB.

i thought that was the general price for computers, i mean technology is getting better. and remember its not jsut for the hard drive, its for the 14" (which i got a 17") screen as well as other stuff. i think my friend can build a basic computer for about £200.

i bought it last week

Wait - 600 was the cost of the whole computer, or just the hard drive? From your first comment I got the impression that's what you paid for just the drive. If 600 for the whole machine then it's probably an ATA drive. ATA drives are fast too and unless you're a system administrator or multimedia producer/video editor, most people don't know the difference. I happen to wear both those hats AND I'm an engineer with development experience in mass storage data systems such as hard drives

well i know who to come to then.

maybe i was abit vague, but when i say "computer" i usually mean the whole lot. but a screen is between £200 and £400 for 14" to 19" so thats only £200 - £400 for the hard drive, with Wndows XP home, DVD burning soiftware (nero and cyberlink powerDVD) and Works 8, so i think its a good deal

Well, if panda got the whole shebang for 600, then that's a fine deal indeed. I initially thought panda was referring to just the 200 GB hard drive also, but I think we were mistaken.

I agree with both Sean and M. AMD is cheaper and generally performs right up there with Intel in regards to PCs. But for laptops, Intel has AMD by the cajones, because Intel Centrino mobile technology is THE BEST laptop processor by far.

I understand that AMD runs a bit hotter than Intel, but nothing unmanageable. And I've found that the AMD Athlon XP 2500+ that I built (then gave to my girlfriend because I'm on to another project...) performs flawlessly and quite fast. I'd say that for people who want to get into building their own PC, AMD is the way to go. You save a few bucks and get performance that is practically equal to a comparable Intel CPU, plus you get the satisfaction of building your own machine.

ok, so we've established the anwser to my question ... Athlon matches Intels in terms of Desk tops, but Intel wins hands down in the laptop market ??? right

I understand that Centrino also is the only chip that offers built-in Wi-Fi. Is this correct?

No, the chip does not have a built in Wireless adapter (not as far as I know -- and I bought my laptop only a few months ago). The computers with Centrino technology come with an option of having an Intel wireless adapter. The basic idea behind the Centrino chip is to use more cache memory and less processing speed to produce less heat and thus consume less energy, thereby extending the battery life a lot while maintaining comparable processing power, and therefore improving mobility.

M.

Stuff Lap tops,my nails are too long too feel comfortable with a LT.

My computer was built for me by my nephew who is in the business. The Modem is a Sam sung, Has two disk drives can play DVD and download info.

Like in my business quotes and my printer is attached to the whole system.

Can print so easy.

I HAVE an H drive and A G drive,
I can watch DVDS right here, AM NOT AS COMPUTER LITERATE AS MOST OF YOU,However it fits my needs both Business wise and personal
I know I need to study more to be able to converse with you guys, but we all start somewhere, ya know.
The cost was $400 for the Modem and then I had to buy the Monitor aBOUT $350. MICROTEK 17 inches (diagonal)
D

For starters, I would like to mention that drive letters don't mean s***.

M.

yea the drive names can be anything

Ok so what do I know? Never said I was as smart ae you Adi, but i m polite.

So talk to your friends I am outta here, Obiviously I don't belong as Adi has so pointed out.

D

Sheesh you guys...

Anyway regarding Wi-Fi, I too had heard that some processor (coming soon?) is to have integrated Wi-Fi. It's mysterious to me why they would want to do that as such capabilities should be a property of the system board, not of the core CPU. I find it a stupid idea to embed some protocol-specific communication technology into the CPU. I don't recall which Mfr/product line it was slated to be a part of though.

I had no business coming in here so Sheese its impossible to learn anything when one is being put down. SO THERE

Next time I come back I will be on an even basis.( HO HO)

D

i didnt mean to be mean, i was posting as your second post Delta.

i must admit the some of this stuff goes over my head.

Adi does it to be annoying. Annoying is his right. Well I don;t want to go thru life as being annoyiing, Guess he does

I am not talking to youFP Enjoy your CP


D

my computers great, its really fast (or as fast as it can be with a dial up net connection) i can burn DVDs its got 2 firewire ports, 6 USB2 ports. and what ever Intergrated mirage TM 2 graphic engine is.

you know those little cards you get for digital cameras, it has 7 in 1 thing of that, - 4 little slots to put them in

Integrated graphics usually means that the PC is taking some of your RAM in order to process video, from what I understand. In my opinion, it's a lot better and less taxing on your PC (especially your system RAM) if you had a dedicated video card to manage the video resources and requirements of your system. But, if we're dealing with a brand new motherboard (which we obviously are since you've got an AMD 64), then perhaps the integrated video is a step (or several steps) above what it used to be...

AMD 64 3400+

Nice! Send ME one!

i can tell your joking, but send you one what - coputer? not sure if they have anymore in stock, they had to get mine from another store, it was very popular, i mean a 200 GB computer for £600, it was ment to be £900 cos they gave me the wrong VDU.

Some integrated video boards have dedicated RAM. I definitely recommend that over one that uses system RAM for performance considerations as it does suck bandwidth off the shared system bus.

Yeah. Dedicated RAM for video cards is the best way to go. And Panda, I was referring to the AMD 64 3400+. That's one that I've been interested in getting for a while. I was joking, but I was slightly serious too.