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Posted by: Sean Kelly

Near-Record Low - Minnesota

01-17-05 - 54F in Embarass, MN this morning. They call it a "river of arctic air" moving down through the region. Edited: earlier labelled a record low, now recognized as a near-record temp, the record of -60F set in 1996 only ten miles north of Embarass.

Here's a couple great maps of record lows and highs in the U.S.:

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/severeweather/a-tlow.gif

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/severeweather/a-thigh.gif

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Posted by: Sierradaddy

Time to get out the thick furs... Or crank up the heat and throw a blanket around you as you call into work and say, "You think I'm going outside in THIS weather?" People at my job got away with it (including our boss... I was too stupid to think of it... ) ), and we live in one of the coldest cities in CANADA, which is one of the coldest countries in the world...

Thoughts of the Carribean is what keeps me sane..... *...shiver...*

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Posted by: Flutterbywingz

Minnesota? I always thought they had pretty extreme winters in that State. What would 54F below zero be in degrees Celsius?

Are you, by an chance, in Winnipeg, Sierradaddy?

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Posted by: Sean Kelly

It must be celcius:

Embarrass, Minnesota, hits 54 below

quote:
Temperatures plummeted across the eastern half of the nation Monday, approaching an all-time record in northern Minnesota and freezing the Gulf Coast as a river of Arctic air pushed southward.

Thermometers registered a low of 54 degrees below zero at Embarrass, Minnesota.

"You keep living, but it gets old after a while," said Christine Mackai, the town clerk for the community of about 1,400 people in northeast Minnesota.

Minnesota's record is 60 below, set on February 2, 1996, in Tower, about 10 miles north of Embarrass.


The article continues to talk about termperatures dropping "below the freezing mark". Only on the Centigrade scale does the freezing mark and 0 land at the same point. Thus "54 below" must refer to 54 below 0, and thus -54C. BRR!

The story has been revised though and is not a NEW low as the previous record was 60 below. Earlier this was flagged as a record low temp.
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Posted by: Sean Kelly

because -54F is not 54degrees below freezing since water freezes at 32F. That'd be 86 degrees below freezing

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Posted by: Flutterbywingz

Burrrr, is right! It's going to drop below 40 degrees Celsius here tonight.

Freezing!!

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Posted by: Sierradaddy

quote:
Sean Kelly said this in post #6 :
because -54F is not 54degrees below freezing since water freezes at 32F. That'd be 86 degrees below freezing


I'm confused when it comes to negative temperatures in F. When people in the states' say "Its 20 below," they're saying that its 12 degrees F? I always thought that they were saying its 20 F below 0 F, or -20 F, which is supposed to be the same as -20 C, from what I understand.

In anycase, I HATE the cold climates, yes I live in Winnipeg, Canada and I HATE the winter and the snow... I'm not built for the cold, and I'm ready to flee the country if it means warm feet for the 5 months of every year that I currently do without...
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Posted by: Flutterbywingz

quote:
Sierradaddy said this in post #8 :



In anycase, I HATE the cold climates, yes I live in Winnipeg, Canada and I HATE the winter and the snow... I'm not built for the cold, and I'm ready to flee the country if it means warm feet for the 5 months of every year that I currently do without...
It's funny how the once amusing Canadian winters become less tolerable as we get a little older!

Hopefully Winnipeg and parts of Ontario won't have a disastrous repeat of the winter from a few years ago: Looks like Minnesota might be getting it instead.

It's too bad they don't have a 'Mel Lastman' to bail them out!


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Posted by: mystic

And here I thought getting up this morning that the temp at 4 degrees was cold (which it is...but nothing compared to 54 below).

More cold temps for us to come...and tomorrow our temp will get to 30 but Im sure it wont be until later in the afternoon...and I have to be outside from 8:30 am until 11:30 am in this freezing weather...

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Posted by: Dekka00

quote:
54C below zero in Embarass


it says right there -54 C
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Posted by: Dekka00

and what the heck kind of name is Embarass?

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Posted by: Sean Kelly

After discussing the scale back & forth with Heavens11 a bit, I sought further information on historical records and found the NOAA data placed above in the top post. It would appear that the temperature is indeed 54F below zero, not Centigrade. For clarification, that's 86F degrees below freezing. To me, that's an even more impressive sounding number which I'm surprised more people don't reference because 0F is just an arbitrary, insignificant value AFAIK.

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Posted by: Sierradaddy

"AFAIK"? "As far as I'm concerned"?

If so, I can understand you're point, but that's just one of the issues with the imperial system. Metric is better for being in synch with such a point of significance, like 0 C is the point at which water freezes. But saying 86F below freezing will confuse, as people often will probably think of 0 F as being the freezing point.

You all should come over to the dark side and embrace the Metric system......

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Posted by: Dekka00

Metric shmetric....

100 centimeters in a meter?
1000 milliliters in a liter?

0 degrees C is freezing point of water and 100 is boiling point??

Idunno, it doesn't really make sense to me. It just seems... impractical.

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Posted by: Sean Kelly

AFAIK = As Far As I Know

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