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Cancer boy: What Jacko did to me

Graphic details of the sex abuse allegations against Michael Jackson have emerged.
The 46-year-old star was said on an authoritative website to have indecently assaulted 12-year-old cancer patient Gavin Arvizo and kept the boy's underwear in his daughter Paris's bedroom.

He was also said to have plied the boy with whisky and tequila - and then tried to tamper with a urine sample which would have confirmed this.

In addition Jackson allegedly kept pictures of nude boys in his bedroom; stood naked in front of Gavin and his brother Star, 11; urged them to surf the Internet for pornography; and made obscene calls to strangers.

Jackson is due to face ten charges of molesting Gavin in a trial due to begin at the end of the month in Santa Barbara, California. If convicted on all charges, which also include allegations of kidnap and extortion, he faces 74 years in jail.

Details of the allegations against him were revealed on The Smoking Gun, an Internet site which specialises in obtaining legal documents from court files and through America's Freedom of Information Act.

It is owned by Court TV, a cable network offering live coverage of court cases, which has 80million subscribers in the U.S.

In a sworn statement, said the website, Gavin told prosecutors that Jackson put his hands down his trousers and indecently assaulted him. "The boy said that both he and Michael were wearing pyjamas and lying on Michael's bed. The boy told Michael he didn't want to do it."

Gavin, who is believed to be responding well to his cancer treatment, claimed the abuse happened when he was staying at Jackson's Neverland Ranch during mid-February to early March 2003 - after the controversial documentary about the star by Martin Bashir had been shown on TV.

The boy said Jackson placed his soiled underwear in a washing basket.

Prosecutors claim the underwear was never returned and this was one of the items police were looking for when they searched Neverland last year. It was found in the bedroom of the singer's six-year- old daughter Paris.

The website also revealed a long list of items taken from Jackson's home including a huge stash of pornographic magazines. In addition, Gavin's brother told prosecutors he saw the singer abusing the boy on a bed.

Gavin also told prosecutors that he regularly drank alcohol at Neverland including whisky, tequila, rum and vodka. Jackson allegedly panicked when Gavin was required to submit a urine test as part of his treatment for cancer. According to The Smoking Gun, one of the star's aides tried to destroy the sample because it would have revealed alcohol in the boy's system.

Prosecutors allege there are a number of similarities between the experiences of Gavin and Jordan Chandler, the boy who accused Jackson of abuse in 1993. Jordan was paid £12million to drop the charges.

- Daily Mail

If all this is proven true and Michael doesn't have to rot in jail for the rest of his life then there seriously is something with the world.

A small excerpt of the report on www.thesmokinggun.com:

Michael Jackson walked in nude, say boys

MICHAEL Jackson's alleged sex victim and his brother have given a vivid account of his alleged sexual encounters with the mega star. The evidence – secret until now – claims Jackson supplied alcohol, molested children and walked nude in front of them.

Jackson's alleged victim, a 13 year-old boy, also gave an account of how the pop star allegedly performed sexual acts and asked the boy, a cancer patient, to touch him.

The allegations are contained in 1900 pages of leaked grand jury evidence obtained by a US television program. They include transcripts of prosecution questions to the boy and his answers.

The accuser, 14 at the time he testified, said:

"We were laying on the bed and he (Jackson) told me that men have to masturbate. He told me that he wanted to teach me.

"So we were laying in the bed and then he started rubbing me he put his hand down my pants and started rubbing me, my private area . . ."

The prosecutor asked him: "Did you look over to see his eyes at any time?" The boy answered, "Yes."

"What did you see?" the prosecutor continued. "His eyes were like squinching (sic) really tight," the boy said.

He is asked by the prosecutor: "Did you at any time touch Mr Jackson?"

The boy said: "No. He wanted me to, but I didn't. I said, `no' and I pulled my hand away."

In another exchange the boy is asked if he ever told Jackson he should not be drinking alcohol, supplied by the pop star.

"Did you ever, did you ever mention to Mr Jackson that it probably wasn't a good idea for you to be drinking," the prosecutor asked.

"Yes," the boy replied.

"Tell us about that," the prosecutor asked.

"Well, it wasn't really a good idea for me drinking because I only had one kidney, I only have one kidney. And so it harms my kidney for I drink that stuff. But he would just say, `it's okay.' And he would just keep on telling me to drink," the boy said.

The boy's younger brother said he was watching a horror movie at Jackson's Neverland Ranch when Jackson walked in, nude and aroused.

During grand jury evidence, witnesses are not cross-examined by the defence and defence lawyers are not present. The grand jury later ordered Jackson to stand trial on several charges, including committing sexual acts upon a child, conspiracy, false imprisonment and administering an intoxicating agent. Jackson has pleaded not guilty. The trial is due to start on January 31.

- Herald Sun

Giving kids wine is bad enough, giving a kid with one kidney wine is even worse. michael would've known that the kid had kidney problems and he still made that kid drink wine so that he could get off with the kids.

If all this comes out in Court and he gets away with it. I think a lot of people will lose faith in the justice system. People will start taking the law into their own hands. If all of these revelations can be proven, then Jackson should never see the light of day again.

Judge allows Michael Jackson to respond to leaked transcripts

LOS ANGELES According to media reports, the judge in the Michael Jackson molestation case has allowed the singer to make a statement responding to grand jury transcripts leaked to A-B-C News.

It now reports that Jackson has recorded an interview with Fox News reporter and talk show host Geraldo Rivera in response to the leaked transcripts.

A Fox News spokesperson confirms the interview and says that Jackson read a court-approved statement.

The spokesperson says the statement is part of a larger interview unrelated to the case. It's not clear when the interview will be aired.

- Associated Press

Butter Be Startin Somethin - Michael Jackson's slippery secret

Among all the sordid revelations surrounding the Michael Jackson case, one struck us as particularly wonderful: to his young friends,the King of Pop refers to semen as "Duck Butter".

- Pop *****

Duck Butter?

ewwwwwww...............


Hey, I'll make a prediction here. Mike will do the Fox interview, and in his mind, he will answer all this stuff, lie about everything, and do himself a good dead.

However, like every other interview he has ever done, he will come off as a liar, a weirdo, and a freak, and they will play little snippets of the interview all over the world, and he will further cement himself into the role of child molester.

I tell you, for a man that lies 24/7 about almost everything in his life, you would think he would be better at it.

He needs some help, I hope that in jail they give him a shrink, and that he can go on drugs and get his head straight.

Any other person in his shoes would have been put in a mental hospitial a long time ago and given some therapy. But he is so rich and so powerful, it never happened.

At least teach him how to lie good. Explain logic to him. Poor guy is so stupid, he tweaks his face with plastic surgery more than any other human being on the face of the planet, then tells us he has had "very little" plastic surgery.



Man, those poor kids ya know, it just makes you sick. They show up, and Mike messes with their minds and makes them feel guilty.

I think the best thing for him would be to go to jail for the rest of his life, get some help in prison, let all the junk fall off his face, work out in the prison gym, work a prison job, get on some meds and get his life straight.

Prison would be a blessing for him.

Michael Jackson Case Latest: Explicit Tapes On Show

Explicit tapes starring Michael Jackson's first accuser, Jordan Chandler, talking about how the star sexually molested him, have been broadcast on American TV.

The boy, then 13, sobbed as he was filmed telling a psychiatrist about a catalogue of abuse he claimed the singer had imposed on him. The teenager claims he was groped by Jackson at his Neverland Ranch home and countless times in hotel rooms.

Jordan also alleges Jackson kissed him on the lips and cried if he ever tried to pull away, saying, "You don't love me anymore." Now in his 20s, Jordan is said to be one of seven boy witnesses called up to testify against the eccentric star at his child molestation trial, which resumes next Monday (07.02.05).

His claims in 1993 sparked a police investigation but the case never went to court after the boy and his family were paid off a reputed 12millionGBP for their silence.

The tapes were recorded by Dr Richard Gardner, an expert in false child abuse claims, who interviewed the boy after Jordy's mother turned to the doctor after hearing her son's claims.

The testimony was handed to US show The Insider by Jordan's uncle Raymond. Jackson has denied all 10 charges including child molestation, conspiracy to abduct a child, false imprisonment and administering alcohol to a minor.

- Female First

If he was paid all that money for his silence all those years ago and now he is breaking his silence, can Michael demand that he gets all that back?

I don't exactly know.... I think something'll happen to the kid's uncle for giving the tape out would the boy approve? Would the family approve? I'd say MJ won't. Does the psychiatrist approve? How did it find it's way TO the uncle? Very unusual...

Wonder if we can find the video online

Nothing should happen to the Uncle, it should happen to the Doctor, doesn't that sort of thing come under doctor-patient priviledge? Those tapes should've never left the doctors office.

But if you do find the video online, give me the link

I don't think the doctor would have been the only one with access to the tape. It was probably given to numerous people as evidence before the original case against MJ was dismissed.

But generally wouldn't an interview with a patient by a doctor remain confidential? How did they get it as evidence in the first case?

Michael Jackson pretended to have sex with a naked dummy

Michael Jackson pretended to have sex with a naked child dummy, it has been claimed.

The eccentric singer, who is facing child abuse charges, reportedly giggled as he climbed on top of the mannequin, which looked like a black, eight-year-old girl.

Gavin explained: "We had a doll, shaped in a funny way. It was laying on the bed and then he was on top of it. Then he was acting like he was having sex with it. He was on his knees trying to have sex with the mannequin."

The incident was also reportedly witnessed by Gavin's brother, 11-year-old Star, who had joined Jackson's sleepover at his Neverland Ranch home.

Star told a grand jury last year in the pre-trial hearing: ""The mannequin was a female child, African-American. All I remember is that he picked it up and was pretending he was humping it."

- Female First

Thank God it wasn't a boy doll. I don't know why, but that fact that it was at least a girl doll is somewhat better.
It's still disturbing that he did it, even more disturbing that he did it in front a child, but at least it was a girl doll.

But it was an 8-year old girl doll!

If he gets away with this, then the world truly is a messed up place. He deserves every bit of pain the prison system can give him, including a very mean cell mate. Abusing children is reprehensible.

This trial is sure going to be a 'Thriller.'

I know, I know I'm Bad.

-HECK!

I couldn't take it if Prince was in that video.....that is my MAN, THE MAN!!!! And he said he didn't want another man singing "your butt is mine to him"

And then Prince would have possibly been in this fiasco of a trial that MJ is in. Now if I had to go to Cali just to see Prince, I would go in a heartbeat. <---me outsiside the court

I think the "sha-mon" think is supposed to be "JAM ON!" schmigs... but it does sound like MJ has a few Jewish tendancies, really.

SHALOM!

I know Mys, that's why Bad was capitalized

-HECK!

Oh I was expecting a different "Beat It" joke. You could also make one on "Stranger In The Dark", "Scream", "The Lost Children", and "Wanna Be Startin' Something"... if you really wanted to

-HECK!

Michael Jackson used to give alcohol to his young sleeping partners and tell them that getting drunk "was part of being a man".

- Pop *****

By Dan Whitcomb

SANTA MARIA, Calif. (Reuters) - Michael Jackson's lawyer said on Tuesday the pop star would tell the jury in his child molestation case how his teenage accuser had run wild at his Neverland Valley ranch, drinking wine and looking at porn, while his mother hatched a scheme to extort money.

Concluding his opening statements, attorney Tom Mesereau said his client was the naive victim of a scheming family and that there was no DNA evidence of the sexual abuse charged by the prosecution.

"Ladies and gentlemen, it's going to be a long trial and you are going to hear lots of evidence," Mesereau said. "We are extremely confident that when you do, you are going to find Michael Jackson absolutely not guilty of any of this."

Jackson, 46, is charged with molesting a then 13-year-old boy at his Neverland estate in February and March of 2003, not long after a controversial documentary aired showing Jackson holding hands with his accuser and saying that he shared his bed with boys.

Prosecutors were expected to call their first witnesses on Tuesday, including Martin Bashir, the British journalist whose controversial documentary "Living with Michael Jackson" is at the center of the case.

Mesereau told jurors that Jackson was not home on some of the days that prosecutors charge he molested the boy. "A lot of the dates you heard the prosecutor identify, he wasn't even near the place," he said.

The real aim of Jackson's accusers is to use the criminal case to strengthen a civil lawsuit against the entertainer, he said.

JACKSON TO TAKE THE STAND?

Mesereau indicated at least three times during his statement that jurors would hear from Jackson directly during the trial, which could last up to six months.

The lawyer said Jackson would detail his growing suspicions about his accuser's family and tell how the boy and his younger brother broke into his wine cellar and got drunk during a stay at Neverland. They also rifled through a briefcase containing pornography.

"Michael Jackson will tell you one time at Neverland he got a very bad feeling about these people," Mesereau said as he recounted an incident during which the boy's mother had her children hold hands with the pop star and urged them to kneel and pray "with our daddy, Michael."

He added, Jackson thought, "I've got to get away. I love helping these children, but I've got to get away."

Mesereau said that the mother of Jackson's accuser was out to get money and had seen her son's appearance with Jackson in the Bashir documentary as a business opportunity.

She concocted the abuse allegations, he said, "when she realized Mr. Jackson wasn't going to be there to take care of her family for the rest of her life."

Jackson sat in court wearing a dark suit with a gold armband and was accompanied by his mother, Katherine. No other Jackson family members were present and there was only a small group of supporters and onlookers standing vigil outside.

Prosecutors have said that Jackson's pop star persona hid the darker side of a man who lured boys to his Neverland Valley Ranch and plied them with alcohol and pornography.

Santa Barbara County District Attorney Tom Sneddon described Jackson as presiding over Neverland as a kind of haven for adolescent boys who were allowed to skip school, drink alcohol, view pornography and stay up all night.



In that environment, he said Jackson brought the boy into his bedroom. He gave the boy -- a cancer survivor with just one kidney -- wine, vodka and bourbon, showed him pornography and then molested him, Sneddon said.

JACKSON FONDLED BOY

The younger brother of Michael Jackson's alleged abuse victim has told a court he saw the singer seemingly masturbating while abusing his sibling.

Star Arvizo claimed that on two occasions Jackson had one hand in the underwear of brother Gavin and the other down his own.

The 14-year-old said from where he saw the alleged incidents of abuse, it seemed as though Jackson was masturbating both times.

Star's graphic recounting of what he said took place at the singer's Neverland ranch in 2003, when he was 11, has been the most powerful so far in the trial.

Each of the teenager's allegations packed a powerful punch, from viewing internet porn with the singer to having alcohol and seeing Jackson naked, apparently sexually aroused.

But the most damning came near the end of his initial evidence.

Star said that both times he was returning to a bedroom the brothers were sharing with Jackson when peering through slats in a door he saw a sleeping Gavin, then 13, and Jackson on a bed.

The first time he claimed the singer's left hand was in Gavin's underwear and the other in his own, a scene similar to the second alleged occasion two days later.

Starting his evidence on day six of the trial, Star said Jackson had shown the brothers internet porn but told them not to tell their parents.

Looking assured in the face of senstive questioning, he also told the court of a flight he and his brother Gavin had with the singer from Miami to Neverland.

During the journey, Star said Jackson had licked his brother's head as he rested it on the 46-year-old's shoulder.

On that same flight, he told the hearing the singer had given him drink from a Diet Coke can filled with wine.

Earlier, while the brothers stayed with Jackson at a hotel in Miami, Star said the singer had given Gavin, then 13, alcohol from a 7 Up can.

Jackson is accused of abusing the then 13-year-old Gavin Arvizo at Neverland in 2003, giving him alcohol and conspiring to hold the child and his family captive.

He denies all charges. The trial continues.

- SKy News

Ok, I’ve been reading this thread for a while now and in my opinion it seems you guys simply believe this family without waiver.

If I can strike a little balance here, is there anyone in this forum who has the feeling that this story of abuse here is little too convenient and sounds somewhat calculated?

Here we have a family whom allegedly has tried to extort money from several celebrities, including the likes of Jay Leno who ended up going to the police about it. Certain aspects of this case are sounding fishy to me and here’s why.

Mike is accused of being interested in little boys, having child porn of little boys being found in his home. So far, all that’s come to light are porn of adult female magazines collaborated by the prosecutor’s witness. Also, he is alleged to have simulated acts of sex with a female doll? That isn’t consistent with the characteristics of a pedophile of little boys.

Also, once maybe but how is it that twice this little boy stumbled into the room with MJ’s hand in the underwear of a sleeping young boy both times and Mike never noticed the other kid opening the door either times?

What else seems to be convenient is that there is no evidence of any type of penetration. No DNA, no signs of physical sexual or any other abuse. Just fondling and walking around naked which only conveniently pit his word against theirs.

Another thing is the prosecutor wants to admit into evidence the documentary of MJ saying he share his bed with children. Mike also said there’s nothing sexual about it but the prosecutor wants you to believe only a portion while disbelieving the other.

And how the H-E double L could someone force me to make a tape praising the molester of my son without a gun to my head? An even then I’d surely look like I was under duress. This may be a bit of a stretch but have any of you seen these hostages in Iraq on video? They don’t look very cheerful to me.

Let me say this in closing. I don’t necessarily believe Mike is innocent or guilty. I do think he’s an idiot for getting himself into this situation, especially with the last allegation in 93. But if I were the parent of a child who declared a Michael Jackson molested him, I would never settle for money alone, I would want that bastard under the jail. Any settlement less than that is injustice to my child. If suddenly I got paid millions and unexpectedly contracted an acute case of amnesia, I am an “unsuitable parent” period. The outrage alone should be enough to refuse such deal.

Can we at least see what the defense has to present before we stone Mike? It’s always easiest to believe the accuser in a case and that’s exactly why so many innocent people find themselves in prison. Mike may not be innocent but so far, I’ve not been impressed with much but the coke can allegations in the prosecution’s case.

PS. Heck, I agree with Mystic, that was a good one

You brought up some very vaild points Oneofpeace. We do have to hear both sides before we really know. That being said, I am inclined at this point to believe the prosecution. I will explain my reasons why. I did follow the case from the 90's. I have watched documentaries, yes I did that when I was laid up after a car accident , and I was shocked at how similar the cases were. The documentaries came to light after this boy filed the case. The story and pattern of abuse is very similar for two boys who never met.

We also need to keep in mind that in sexual molestation there is not always penetration. You can't have evidence of fondling, but that does not mean that it did not happen.

Is the mother suspect? Yes. She is known for being a liar and opportunist, but and this is a huge but, wouldn't her child make a perfect victim? After all who is going to believe her? I think the fact that the mom is so shady made this child the perfect victim for Michael. The kid is poor, possibly will die from cancer thus eliminating the witness, and if he survives then the mom is know for her shady activity. It would be hard to prove to a jury.

All excellent points oneofpeace.
If the mother in this case is really a manipulative liar who extorts money or attempts to anyway, all of that will come out when the defense presents their side of the case, something I am certainly looking forward to. If you have articles or info on the Jay Leno link to the accuser's family, please post it, I'd be deeply interested in reading about it.
It's sad to think that these kids would outright lie about the man who befriended them and spoiled them rotten, but if they were raised in a household where lying and manipulation was a regular part of life, it would come as second nature to them, and in doing so, they wouldn't see why it would be wrong.
As far as the documentary, certainly MJ owns up to sleeping in bed with little boys and says there's nothing sexual about it. But in the same documetary he also says he's only had two plastic surgery procedures. Clearly he's incapable of being honest of about some things in it.
Simulating a sexual act with a doll in front of the boys would be consistent with pedophile behavior, regardless of the doll's sex. So would exposing the children to pornography. Pedophiles will attempt to desensitize their victims tosexual behavior in order to broach that contact with them.
About the 93 accuser's family taking the settlement, I have to admit, it's hard to imagine letting the person who stole your child's innocence go free while being compensated heavily with cash...the only possible excuse for that kind of decision by a parent would be that they decided the settlement was better than putting their child through the ordeal of a trial.
I think there's a lot of evidence suggesting that MJ did do this, but I'm not willing to say for sure that he did until all the facts come out.

According to today's reports the boy has lied before under oath (the JC Penny case). So this mother has definely have some issues in using her kids as pawns.

And apparently the accusers brother is stumbling alot on the stand. I really don't think he is quite helping his brothers case. What it all boils down to is the testimony of the boy, and MJ (if he takes the stand). All these other people really don't amount to a hill of beans for either side. Now, if they were to have the first kid (Jordan Chandler) testify than it might help reinforce the fact that MJ has abnormal feelings and preferences towards certain boys. Though it is not a crime in itself, it would atleast be a wake up call to parents, who leave their children unattended.

That's my main gripe....why the hell do these people leave their kids with people that they really don't know. And it goes for scout leaders, priests, neighbors, distant relatives, any adult male who takes alittle too much interest in your child one on one.

It is amazing that people trust their children to strangers. That abnormal interest should be a signal. People are blinded by money and that is so very sad for all the children out there who are taken advantage of by people like this.

Testimony of accusers brother on cross-examination

This story seems to keep spawning into something more every time he's asked about statements made.

He walked in an unlocked door, now he unlocked it with a key. He set off the alarm but Mike didn't hear it because the door was closed. He was sitting on the couch watching Mike molest the boy now he was walking in the door. He was afraid while taping but after viewing the tape of him laughing with his family, he was just tired and wanted to leave instead.

So far, I cannot see how anyone can trust this boy's testimony which seems to evolve as we go along here. If you can send someone to jail on such shakey testimony, I hope you never sit on any jury where me or mine was accused Schmigg.

Also read Jackson accuser has history of changing story.

Reasonable doubt? Absolutely.

I completely agree with you oneofpeace, I say Jackson is innocent until proven guilty and the prosecution seems to have a sloppy case. The next thing that brings reasonable doubt is that we're told Michael Jackson molested the kid after the documentary aired, and this is at a time when he had child services called on him and was under heavy scrutiny. We're supposed to believe that Michael Jackson would make an irrational decision like molesting the kid and then "come to his senses" and try to kidnap the family? It just doesn't compute for me. And now we have a huge discrepancy in the story, the sister says the boys were drinking, and the brother says the sister was drinking. So what is the accuser going to say now, we were all drinking? But not in the kitchen, or the cellar, but in the bedroom?

I'm not trying to slag the family here, but given their history and the fact that the accuser has already lied under oath at the behest of his mother, along with the JC Penney case and Jay Leno incident (it was on the news, that's how I learned about it), I would say it is very easy to see reasonable doubt in this case without hard evidence. Even the porn collection, when they said "young looking" people you knew they had nothing on him. I'll wait and see what happens.

But it seems Mike is playing the fool again with his "back pain" and the hospital, but I attribute this to his inability to grow up.

If Mike has proven anything about his latter adult years is that he is his own worse enemy. He’s constantly in his own way. Nothing manly about him whatsoever and his reaction to this court stress is absurdly overboard and again is a detriment to himself.

I don’t think this family has any credibility at all. The children are so confused thanks to their parents, that you don’t know what’s truth or fiction. It is obvious that the brother of the accuser was lying in much of his testimony.

As for the Prosecutor making the statement about the porn with very “young women” appearing in it, it’s obvious he is stretching it a bit. The statement is to seed in the minds of the jury that Mike likes underage kids while he has no material to collaborate it.

It puzzled me why the Prosecutor kept getting warrant after warrant searching and researching Mike’s home as late as last January. Though it’s not unlawful it certainly isn’t the norm. I think he knew his case wasn’t very strong and kept trying to sure it up. After seeing what he’s presented so far, I think I understand fully why he kept going back to that ranch.

Maybe things may change today or tomorrow but in my opinion from what we know, the Prosecutor isn’t having a banner day in court so far.

Well as far as it goes at this point, I don't believe this kid at all.

Given the history of this particular family, I don’t think I could send someone to jail on their word alone. And this trial is looking like it’s his word against Mike’s.

Unless something dramatic happens, or Mike foolishly does something else incredibly stupid, I don’t think that jury is going to convict. The charges of false imprisonment are even more ridiculous than the brother’s story of Mike not hearing alarms and what he now says is a locked door when he opened it on two different occasions.

This all happened what 2 years ago? It is possible for an experience attorney to trip up a wintess especially a child. Lawyers can be confusing. The kids could be liars we just do not know yet. I am interested in hearing some testimony about the case in the 90's. If the judge allows it, it could show a pattern that Michael uses. We just have to wait and see.

Michael Jackson was a virgin until 32, but lusted after his female fans, according to a taped phone call released yesterday (29.03.05).

Jackson also talks about his battle with anorexia and how he hates his “n****r hair” in the call.
The conversation between Jackson and a nine-year-old boy was recorded by the young fan’s family in 1985.

They claim the star used to ring the boy regularly for midnight chats about his love life.
According to Jackson’s publicity agent the tapes show that the singer - on trial for molesting a 13-year-old boy – is a heterosexual.

Publicist David Hans Schmidt told a crowd outside the Santa Maria courtroom: “There is some dynamite stuff on these tapes. I believe they will demonstrate that Jackson is, or at least was, heterosexual.”

Jackson denies all charges against him.

- B Celebrity

You know, I've heard that child molesterers often don't distinguish between boys or girls, it's often about the innocence more than anything.

Interesting they have that phone call though. And I feel sorry for Jackson... I mean... 32

Aparently he had this type of conversation with a lot of the kids that stayed at Neverland that he was "friends" with. He got relationship advice from them and they talked about girls and all that kind of thing.

But I did just notice the one comment that this guy made:

Whatever that means...I mean maybe he is bisexual or maybe he thought he liked girls but could never get comfortable enough around them.

Personally, I think he is gay and has always been that way, but he wasnt sure how to handle it.

Whats with the comment about his hair? I wonder how the black community will respond to that?

Isn't it OK to use the N-word if you are a black? And I guess in theory Michael Jackson is black.
LIke you can say "poof" if you're gay, but not if you're straight.

Sorry, my bad, I thought you meant that the black community would take offense to his using the n-word, not to the fact that he said he hated his hair.

Is it? So do you think he's completely bald now, or he clips it back for the wig?

I think he clips it back.
He has patchy hair aparently, from back when his hair caught fire.

I think his whole face is detachable.

-HECK!

So I heard on the radio that another kid testified that Jacko messed with him, too.

What really gets me is after all this testimony, there are these jerks outside the courtroom, hooting and hollering, wearing red jackets with one glove holding a 'Thriller' record cheering this freak on.

-HECK!

'Home Alone' Star Slept in Jackson Bedroom - Witness

SANTA MARIA, Calif. (Reuters) - "Home Alone" actor Macaulay Culkin slept in Michael Jackson's bedroom during his boyhood friendship with the singer, Jackson's former maid testified on Tuesday.

The maid, who said it was her job to clean Jackson's bedroom, also said she saw another boy in the shower with Jackson and that she had found the clothes of both boys on the floor next to Jackson's bed.

The maid is the mother of the now 24-year-old man who testified on Monday that he had been molested three times by Jackson between the ages of 7 and 10.

The maid's son was the first of nine witnesses that prosecutors in Jackson's trial on child molestation charges will call to try to convince jurors that the singer has a history of inappropriate behavior toward adolescent boys, including Culkin.

Culkin, who has repeatedly denied ever being molested by Jackson, is not expected to testify.

The woman said she worked for Jackson at his Neverland Valley ranch in central California and at his other Los Angeles area homes between 1986 and 1991.

She said she recalled seeing Culkin at Neverland on and off over a period of about six months when the child star was 8 or 9 years old. Most of the time Culkin visited with his family, but he came by himself at least a couple of times, she added.

She said she had found both Culkin's and Jackson's clothes in the singer's room and that the only bed in the room -- Jackson's -- had been slept in.

The maid said that the second boy she saw with Jackson had stayed at Neverland for several weeks around 1989 when he was 8 or 9 years old. He also slept in Jackson's bedroom.

"IN THE SHOWER"

On one occasion, she recalled going in to clean Jackson's bedroom and heard laughing and playing. "I came in and at first I thought they were playing in the bathtub or Jacuzzi and I didn't see them ... and I walked in and they were in the shower."

She said she could see two figures -- Jackson's and the smaller figure of the boy -- in the steamed up shower and saw two pairs of underwear on the floor. "Mr Jackson's, I knew, was white, and the boy's, I knew, was green like a neon color, was right by the shower."

The maid said she was embarrassed and left without saying anything.

She said she had become concerned about her own son's relationship with Jackson after finding her child sitting in Jackson's lap and later seeing them lying together in a sleeping bag on the floor.

Jackson's lawyers grilled the maid's son on Tuesday about conflicting statements he had made to police and why he had initially denied being molested by the singer.

The man, who testified on Monday that Jackson groped his genitals after a game of tickling and then gave him $100, said he was embarrassed to talk about what happened to him.

"In the fifth grade I told my friends I knew Michael Jackson and it was cool. They didn't believe me, but it was cool. In junior high (school) it was no longer cool to know somebody who had issues with kids," the man said on Tuesday.

The maid and her son accepted a $2 million legal settlement from Jackson in the mid-1990s over the allegations.

In the current case, Jackson is charged with molesting a 13-year-old boy at his ranch, plying him with alcohol in order to abuse him and conspiring to commit false imprisonment, child abduction and extortion.

Jackson, who has pleaded not guilty, faces more than 20 years in prison if convicted.

- Yahoo News