Hate America, Like Americans???

Post-9/11 Era Forum

I've read in many posts about people who don't like America the country but like American people. this whole conecpt is ridiculous for many reasons:

1) This can be said about any country. For example, it's like saying I don't like the Cuban government but I like Cubans. Duh! Cubans are human beings just like everyone else and you'd probably like most of them if you met them on the street. (Substitute any country for Cuba, even France.)

2) For those of you who don't like the US government but like Americans, you must realize that, on the whole, most Americans like if not love our government. Not that it is perfect by any means or that we agree with all of it's policies - but I think the overwhleming majority of Americans would rather have the form of government we have than any other that currently exists on this planet. So, although you may like Americans, realize that you probably like someone who really, really likes the US government.

3) People who hate other people solely based upon their country of origin are bigots - plain and simple. If you don't hate people because of their country of origin then you are just using common sense.

I say it's valid. I'm born and raised in the good 'ole US of A, and I love my country. But right now, I HATE my government and I HATE George W. Bush, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH MORE than Saddam and Osama COMBINED do...

The thing that amazes me, is how much people got pissed at Clinton for getting a BJ...an act that wasn't even illegal and shouldn't have been scrutinized in the 1st place. Sure, I agree it's immoral, but if it's not illegal doing it should have no consequence. Besides, we where better off in every way under Clinton, EVERYTHING SUCKS since that Dick Head Bush became president! Go ahead say that it was "artificial" and I'll just say "Give me a president who can give me a good 'artificial' 8 years and he can get all the BJs he wants."

Originally posted by gdog

Boy, theres television reality for you. How many people do you think are in America? If you add up every protester you.ve ever seen on television, times that by 10, youd still be talking less than 1% of the total population.

You can dismis the protests all you want but the fact is that all over the world more people protested on that day than have ever protested on any day in history. You only dismis it because you don't agree with the protesters.

What you seriously underestimate, is the number of Americans which never get polled (They're not home, they're at work) or never get publicity (They feel no need to justify their position to some liberal pseudo intellectual) They tend to be straight forward hard working people. If they decide they're unhappy with the currant leader, will simply vote him out of office, period.

These straight forward hard working people are the one's who, because of actions taken by your government, have had their life savings stolen. Bush is not a friend to the ordinary American. That is just spin and hype and governments get better at it every year. Blair's government is no different. If you care so much about the hard working people of America at least find out what Bush has done to the people who invested their life savings in Enron, the biggest financial supporter of Bush's administration (before they were found out and went belly up).

And on that note, some of us DO take it personally, when you disrespect our country, and our president, daily, as a form of entertainment.

You should take it personally, enough to be aware what your President is or isn't doing. Otherwise what kind of democracy is it?

And what does that really mean? More people protested worldwide than anytime in history, and that somehow gives their point more relevance?

Obviously it means nothing to you but then I wouldn't expect it to because the only thing that matters to you is the ordinary American - the one's who got robbed by Enron with Bush's help. You haven't even said how you feel about this therefore I can only assume Bush means more to you.

And stop with the "stop picking on my coutry, go away" like you just sit over there minding your own business. It's not how America operates. You're country has influence on this country like wars for instance.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Search4Truth
[B]If he was a true elected leader and he earned it, I would not be here at the moment critcizing him!


Yes...you would! Because he would have done the same thing as he chose to do. So that is not true! Liar!

My boy Ronnie would have rolled the whole middle east up by now if he had the chance.

He would be the perfect president for this era.

( Boy, I bet your gonna HATE this statement!!)

The thing is, I don't give a flying "F" about what Hussein did to his people, rather than waste money on this stupid war, I'd rather cut a backroom deal with him for cheap oil...

i dont see your point why people cant hate the american administration while at the same time like the american people. Afterall don't we hate Saddam but want to help the iraqi people?

If Gore had won the election, we would still be in Iraq. Nothing would have changed.

For all of you blaming the Enron deal on George Bush, you really are ignorant:

a) Enron began engaging in their illegal acts long before Bush took office.

b) Even though they were engaging in these acts while Clinton was was in office, it wouldn't be fair to blame Clinton either.

c) You'll notice that seven of these indivuals were just indicted and will be tried for their crimes.

BOTTOM LINE: The actions of a few indivudals at a PRIVATE company have nothing to do with who is president. And, even if they did, Clinton would certainly have to share the blame.

I'm not a fan of Clinton, but I do have the common sense not to make posts which imply that everything that went wrong in America while he was president were personally his fault.

Originally posted by gdog
My boy Ronnie would have rolled the whole middle east up by now if he had the chance.

now that you mention it, yeah, it does make me proud to see our armed forces rolling over our ENEMIES. It makes me **** proud!
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The whole middle east? Do you have a problem with every single country in the middle east?? Are you some kind of war fanatic that gets a kick out of watching our troops going over there and risking there lives? Do you like seeing the civilian deaths that are also caused by this kind of this situation?? If you think that America should be taking over the whole middle east you're sick.

So, if we have this big conspiracy, why are the Enron executives being indicted and going to trail? Surely if these people could put Bush in power, they could cover up a little accounting fraud.

I think the situation at Enron had a lot to do with a few individuals (criminals) running a company who were scheming to enrich themselves at the expense of others.

Americaaah,

Maybe you missed my question. Can you tell me what it was, specifically, that was supposed to be difficult to watch?

Thanks.

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I still do not know what it was *specifically* that was supposed to be difficult to watch.

Someone enlighten me.