| Posted by: scottc | | To spite your face.
This shows the American priority list.
What is more important?. Is it the American business market? or spite?.
Read http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2969861.stm
So the Americans want to use American imports in order to "get back" at the nasty Germans for not supporting their little jaunt.
Now read http://www.usatrade.gov/website/web..._WhatsNew090402
This is the US commercial service detailing how important the German market is in key exports to not just Germany and Europe, but the rest of the world also, due to the large number of International trade fairs and the German thirst for technology.
You take from them, they will take from you. End result?. Everybody loses. Congratulations, American policy has taken the world one more step towards economic meltdown. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: grets | | first off, it has been a policy in the House of Representatives for quite some time to award govt contracts to American companies first. This was pushed forward by a now imprisoned James Traficant of Ohio. It was always in the form of an amendment to any spending authorization bills, and was commonly known as the "Traficant Amendment". so, to now bring up this as something new is ridiculous. it has been a long standing program. if an American compnay can't provide a product, then it goes to outside sources, usually Canadian.
second,what does the second site have to do with anything? does it provide the trade balance? does Germany buy more from the u.s. than it sells? or does Germany currently have a surplus with the u.s. trade? without those FACTS, your statement is bogus! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: scottc | | First, if you actually read what was said within the bbc site, the reason for the renewal is to find an alternative to a German contract BECAUSE of the German refusal to bend over and bark.
Secondly, the US Commercial service is relevant, since if you actually bothered to read the text, the US commercial service is pointing out that Germany is the entrance point for American companies to export goods to not just Germany, but to do business in Germany with buyers from Europe, the Middle East and Africa, Asia, Latin America and even with other U.S. companies. What I did not say is that America exports more to Germany, but they are heavily reliant on Germany.
If you actually stop to think about the text, then you will realise that placing barriers to business is a bad thing. How can this help American business?.
What you are saying, however, is that you are against globalisation, so on this point you probably agree with most of the ardent anti war protestors. I suppose I can expect to see you outside the bank building come the next anti-globalisation protest?.  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: grets | | not hardly! i do not expect all nations to bow to everything the u.s does or wants. if a nation does not agree with another nation they have the right and the duty to say no. after the no , however, they must be ready for any reaction. now, if the German company is in contract with the u.s. govt, then by all means, the u.s has an obligation to carry out the contract. but any country will give as much business to their own private companies as possible. At Soesterberg AB in your country, the u.s spends alot of money each year. the bulk goes to the Dutch people and their companies. it is by agreements signed. and it is right. should to u.s insist that all $$ go to american companies? no. but the Dutch govt rightly awards contract to Dutch companies first. are there barrierrs to free trade- yup! should there be- nope. america buys many cars from the orient, but oriental countries throw up constant barriers to equal trade. same thing in europe. Why? well, follow the $$. iraq is a good example of fairness and how the $$ changes people. who was getting rich from the oil for food program? not your usual suspects. why is it no one wants to talk about the european countries who gained immensely from this fiasco? do you realize those that protested military action did so for no other reason than there was too much $$ to be lost? i want globalisation, but do not want countries to loose their identity, to loose their history, to loose their hard gained freedoms and rights to someone who has no interest in them, only in their $$. the EU is not going to work once people realize someone they did not vote into power is controlling their lives. sorry, common $$ does not a happy society make! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Charles | | Just another example from state gov't purchasing within the USA...
Many states give a preference to purchasing from vendors who reside in that state as their principle place of business. Sometimes this gets in the way of "best value" for the state (read tax payer), but it is understandable in the sense that by promoting work with local vendors, it ceates local jobs, and actually increases tax revenue. Some states have open procurement policies except where a vendor is from another state that has a restrictive procurement policy tries to do business in that state - in which case they are penalized a little bit and work at a disadvantage. That seems fair enough. Everyone should play by the same rules.
I'm not sure how this works in the Europe. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: scottc | |
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| not hardly! i do not expect all nations to bow to everything the u.s does or wants. if a nation does not agree with another nation they have the right and the duty to say no. after the no , however, they must be ready for any reaction. |
This exactly points out the American childishness. What the f*-k has a German company got to do with the war in Iraq?. It is not even a German company, rather an American company selling a German product. Cooperation leads to good things, childishness does not.
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| At Soesterberg AB in your country, the u.s spends alot of money each year. the bulk goes to the Dutch people and their companies. it is by agreements signed. |
I dunno if you knew, but the yanks pulled out of Soesterberg 9 years ago. Any contract bids are controlled by the RNAF, and have nothing to do with the USAF.
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| are there barrierrs to free trade- yup! should there be- nope. america buys many cars from the orient, but oriental countries throw up constant barriers to equal trade. same thing in europe. Why? well, follow the $$. |
It constantly amuses me to hear the words "free trade" from Americans. Do you know who currently has UNILATERAL sanctions against over half of the worlds population?. 52% of the worlds population is subject to unilateral sanctions imposed by the US. Does this sound like "free trade" to you?.
In order for a truly global economy to thrive, all nations need to be getting something out of it. This empowers the world to trade with each other. What the US constantly does, is act in the corporate protection of its largest companies at the expense of smaller organisations, and third world countries. Think about it, if all of the third world countries had cash to spend, what effect would this have on the worlds economy?.
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| iraq is a good example of fairness and how the $$ changes people. who was getting rich from the oil for food program? not your usual suspects. why is it no one wants to talk about the european countries who gained immensely from this fiasco? do you realize those that protested military action did so for no other reason than there was too much $$ to be lost? |
I do find it funny that Americans can state catagorically that they are not invading a sovereign nation for the oil $$, but anybody that is opposed is a money grabbing b*-tard. If you want to talk about the $$, lets look at an industry which does not produce anywhere near the sort of revenue that oil does.
Lets look at bannanas. The US supported a military coup, and bombed Guatemala city simply to protect some land taken by the democratically elected leader of Guatemala from united fruit company. Following this action, a dictator was installed, and well over 100,000 people have died as a direct result of the US protecting one bannana company.
But obviously they would NEVER do this for oil would they?.
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| i want globalisation, but do not want countries to loose their identity, to loose their history, to loose their hard gained freedoms and rights to someone who has no interest in them, only in their $$. the EU is not going to work once people realize someone they did not vote into power is controlling their lives. sorry, common $$ does not a happy society make! |
I do believe that you need to examine exactly what globalisation means. Globalisation has come to mean a different set of objectives to a number of different people. Left anti globalisation protestors will point to a drive to create an economic super state which is not accountable to democratic process or national law. They view globalisation as an extension of American hegemony. The true meaning of the word is in fact a more socially acceptable solution, which involves globalisation of not just economic institutions, but also military and environmental globalisation. The US is in fact pursuing exactly what the anti globalisation protestors are protesting about. They do not believe in military or environmental globalisation, (multi-lateral military as opposed to uni, or bi-lateral, and world efforts to reduce the harmful effects on the environment, such as kyoto). The US purely believes in cementing power and dominance over the world. This is not Globalisation, this is Americanisation.
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