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Posted by: zeppelinrules16

Everyone who is reading Chamber of Secrets (and many should be ) if you find something in this book that you think will be relevent to book 6, post it here, i am reading it, and writing down things. Like JK says the Prince isn't Harry or Voldemort, but what about Tom Riddle? Just a thought.

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Posted by: fuscia

Relevant things.

Why were Crabbe, Goyle and Malfoy all at school during the Christmas Break. Were their death eater fathers planning something?

Malfoy wanted Mr. Weasley to be sacked so he could get rid of the muggle protection acts.

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Posted by: zeppelinrules16

On page 263 and 264 in Chamber of Secrets, right after Dumbledoor is suspended, he says "You will find that I will only truly have left this school when none here are loyal to me. You will also find that help will always be given at Hogwartsto those who ask for it."

Could he know he will die soon? Maybe he thought he might not go back to Hogwarts before he died, and he knew Harry and Ron were there, so he would say that so that Harry and Ron knew. Dumbledoor always said Voldemort would come back, maybe he was saying that if he was killed and Voldemort came back, he would remain a ghost to help defeat him?

That line really meant nothing to the story. Maybe it is important in the 6th book?

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Posted by: fuscia

I always thought that he was talking about Fawkes, but you could be on to something there. We did find out in book 5 that the portraits are loyal to Dumbledore too. I don't see Dumbledore as being one to fear death and remain as a ghost. I do think that he could be the half-blood prince. Heck, it could be anyone.

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Posted by: Heatherhobbit

This is from the chapter called Mudbloods and Murmurs...

Ron just tried to curse Malfoy for calling Hermione a mudblood...They go to Hagrid's for help.


This is one of Ron's few expositional moments in the entire series, and the lines go to Hagrid and Hermione in the movie.

"It's about the most insulting thing he could think of," gasped Ron, coming back up. "Mudblood's a really foul name for someone who is Muggle-born--you know, non-magic parents. There are some wizards--like Malfoy's family--who thnk they're better than everyone else because they're what people call pure-blood." He gave a small burp, and a single slug fell into his outstretched hand. He threw it into the basin and continued, "I mean, the rest of us know it doesn't make any difference at all. Look at Neville Longbottom--he's pure-blood and he can hardly stand a cauldron the right way up."

"An' they haven't invented a spell our Hermione can' do," said Hagrid proudly, making Hermione go a brilliant shade of magenta.

"It a disgusting thing to call someone," said Ron, wiping his sweaty brow with a shaking hand. "Dirty blood, see. Common blood. It's ridiculous. Most wizards these days are half-blood anyway. If we hadn't married Muggles we'd've die out."

Now, like I said, Ron isn't usually an expository character. We usually get our exposition from Hermione or one of the adults, so you have to be careful how you interpret his words here. But he does say most wizards are half-blood anyway. So I guess that opens it up to mean that just about anyone could be the Half Blood Prince.

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Posted by: Heatherhobbit

Flitwick was a dueling champion is his youth. And he's not a member of the Order.

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Posted by: hp4ever

But Tom is a younger version of Voldermort. Isn't he? That is just what I thought because remember he didn't like the name his Muggle father left him with. Tom Marvolo Riddle (sorry if I didn't spell stuff right) and it turns out to change to "I am Lord Voldemort" Right?

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Posted by: fuscia

That is correct Megan.

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Posted by: gaboman

Harry and Ron run into Percy around the Slytherine common room (when they're in the form of Crabbe and Goyle)

there was another I thought of a while ago, but I forgot

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Posted by: zeppelinrules16

Is Filch half-blood? He could use the Kwikspeel course in the 6th book.

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Posted by: fuscia

Filtch is a Squib-a non-magical child that is born to wizarding parents

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Posted by: zeppelinrules16

"They're starting a dueling club!" said Seamus. "First meeting tonight! I wouldn't mind dueling lessons; they might come in handy one of these days..."
"What, you reckon Slytherin's Monster can duel?" said Ron, but he, too, read the sign with interest
"Could be useful," he said to Harry and Hermione as they went to dinner. "Shall we go?"
Harry and Hermione were all for it......



What if, since everyone now knows that Voldemort is back, that Dumbledoor brings back the Dueling club and appoints Harry as teacher?

Also, when Professor Binns is explainng the Chamber he says,"You all know of course, that Hogwarts was founded over 1000 years ago- the precise date is uncertain...." Just because we know that JK can surprise us easily, and this is just a thought, maybe Godrick Gryffindor comes back on the anniversery and gives Harry advice or something, I am just thinking crazy.

I also said in an earlier post, might not have been here, about what Dumbledoor said about not truly leaving until everyone at Hogwarts was no longer faithful to him. I think what he means is Fawkes will stay and Dumbledoor's spirit will be in him. Then Harry will inherit Fawkes when/if Dumbledoor dies.

Also I thought that the Basilisk was the snake that Voldemort has with him.

I'll keep searching for more clues, but I don't think there is a clue about who the half-blood prince is.

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Posted by: fuscia

Nagini is not a basilisk, but a giant snake of some type. Nagini has looked many people in the eyes and they have not died.

I think the dueling club will return, but with a teacher leading it. Harry is good at DADA, but he is not necessarily a dueling champion. Flitwick used to be a dueling champion so perhaps he will be the teacher.

Keep up the good work looking for clues Zeppelin. I had forgotten about the dueling club.

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Posted by: zeppelinrules16

In the actual Chamber, Riddle says that Dumbledore is gone because of the memory of him, then Harry yells, "He's not as gone as you might think!" without even thinking about saying that, it just came out. I think that Dumbledore is always there through Fawkes. That is what he meant when he became suspended. That is probabily the big thing that will happen. Dumbledore will die, but still be there through Fawkes.

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Posted by: zeppelinrules16

Maybe Harry will take the mirror Sirius gave him and throw it into the veil hoping Sirius will catch it.

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Posted by: fuscia

Now that is an interesting idea.

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Posted by: Heatherhobbit

That sounded funny the first time I read it, but now I'm thinking, hey, you never know. Wouldn't that be interesting?

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Posted by: fuscia

Percy was reading "prefects who gained power" in a bookstore in Diagon Alley.

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Posted by: Oliphaunt

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zeppelinrules16 said this in post #1 :
Everyone who is reading Chamber of Secrets (and many should be ) if you find something in this book that you think will be relevent to book 6, post it here, i am reading it, and writing down things. Like JK says the Prince isn't Harry or Voldemort, but what about Tom Riddle? Just a thought.


Tom Riddle was just a memory preserved in a diary. He is who Voldemort was. He doesn't exist anymore. What we saw in the Camber of Secrets was what he was like then. He wouldn't even have known about who he became if it weren't for Ginny telling him. So it can't be him.
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Posted by: zeppelinrules16

I have another therory. In CoS, Percy is reading a book in Florish and Blotts about Prefects and their careers or something along those lines. JKR says there will be a new Minister of Magic. In GoF, Ron, Hermione and Harry are talking on page 534 and here's what they say,

"Wonder if Percy knows all that stuff about Crouch?" Ron said as they walked up the drive to the castle. "But maybe he dosen't care...it'd probabily just make him admire Crouch even more. Yeah, Percy loves rules. He'd say Crouch was refusing to break them for his own son."
"Percy would never throw any of his family to the dementors," said Hermione severely.
"I don't know," said Ron. "If he thought we were standing in the way of his career...Percy's really ambitious, you know..."

JKR says something small in CoS (Percy reading that book in Florish in Blotts) will be huge in the 6th book. There will be a new Minister in an upcoming book. IT'LL BE PERCY!

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Posted by: Oliphaunt

You're a genius! Wow!

I have loads of theories that come to me every now and then, but I can't remember any of them. I'll have to put ti up next time I get one.

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Posted by: fuscia

I don't think it will be Percy. He is too much of a junior associate in the Ministry. He has been out working for only 2 years.

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Posted by: samam663

Harry would have to retrive the other half of the mirror, JK also says that the mirror wasnt as important as many people think it could have been.

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Posted by: Oliphaunt

To save any confusion, I think samam663 was talking about the post at the end of page 1. Make sure you check you're on the last page, samam. I do that all the time.

Welcome to inreview and the Harry Potter forum by the way.

Oh, and I live in the UK too. Whereabouts do you live?

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Posted by: sugarxspice79

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fuscia said this in post #11 :
Filtch is a Squib-a non-magical child that is born to wizarding parents


this kind of reminded me of neville. before you start to think i'm crazy, just listen to this;

if Filch had both a magical mother and father, then technically he's pure blood, like Neville is. But, Filch isn't good at using magic, and we all know Neville isn't either. So, maybe there's a connection between Filch and Neville.

Also, there could be a connection between Filch and Mrs. Figg -- they're both squibs and they have cats.

Just a thought

-s
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Posted by: zeppelinrules16

JKR said that Neville dosen't have anymore big parts like he had in OOtP. It was just a turning point fir him.

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Posted by: Heatherhobbit

Interesting how she said that Petunia was muggle born. Is she just a muggle, or is she a muggle born witch? Hmmm...

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Posted by: zeppelinrules16

I'm really sorry, but i mis-read. Neville DOES have more important parts. Sorry

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