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Posted by: photek

i won't be vain and impulsive enough to attribute this to the coalition's efforts but....it is a bit of a coincidence isn't it?

especially strange because about a month ago i told one of my friends, admittedly with lots of uncertainty, that 'after the u.s moves into iraq, n. korea will probably quieten down.'

and here we are, suddenly they want to engage in peace talks concerning their weapons program.

and the possible formation of a palestinian state? did that just spring up randomly?

if both of these situations develop and indeed instigate solid, diplomatic relations between n.korea and the u.s regarding their weapons program, and also jump start the peace process between the israeli/palestinian states, then what? will this effort have been worth it?

not that i support the israelis, but i would like to point out that people there are no longer wearing gas masks to work.

i'am sure we would all like to see the israelis leave the palestinians alone, but if hussein had attacked israel, then what? now we have a tyrant who's not only destroying his only people, but his neighbours.

i'am sure some of you may ask, would i then support hussein in his war against the israelis to liberate the palestinians? the answer is no. never in a million years, because hussein and the regime are completely incapable. they may have deceived millions of iraqis over 20 years and have a 'knack' for gassing their own, but if hussein began a campaign against israel, that's when we'd really have something to worry about.

take a look at http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/04/08/27433.html

note how he stopped the oil for food program. he still gets the money, but his citizens get nothing from the resources they have established. and that was a result of 'u.s and u.k sanctions?'

it has been proven that the israeli/palestinian conflict has the potential to be solved peacefully. if hussein was in power, what kind of peace would prevail?

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Posted by: fred hooper

They never would have made a proper peaceful Palestine state with Saddams regime still in power. They were the main sponsor to Palestine terrorsim groups in the millions and people looked to Saddam as a hero there. He would have tried to ruin it and Saddam was a roadblock to ME peace while in power. No doubt about that and a new Palestine can freely make peaceful settlement now. It has also shut up any ME state thinking along those lines to ruin that two state peace process by supporting terrorism.

The war in Iraq also showed NK that the US will go through with regime change, has had enough of dictatorships and can do it quite well in military terms whenever they choose. NK knows they would be goners if they took their actions too far over that red line.

All in all, the US has probably done wonders when you look at the big picture. The initial worry of the war may turn out to be gold for the future in many places. Terrorists and dictatorships no longer hold any cards to play with. About time too.

Fred Hooper

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Posted by: photek

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Originally posted by fred hooper
They never would have made a proper peaceful Palestine state with Saddams regime still in power. They were the main sponsor to Palestine terrorsim groups in the millions and people looked to Saddam as a hero there. He would have tried to ruin it and Saddam was a roadblock to ME peace while in power. No doubt about that and a new Palestine can freely make peaceful settlement now. It has also shut up any ME state thinking along those lines to ruin that two state peace process by supporting terrorism.

The war in Iraq also showed NK that the US will go through with regime change, has had enough of dictatorships and can do it quite well in military terms whenever they choose. NK knows they would be goners if they took their actions too far over that red line.

All in all, the US has probably done wonders when you look at the big picture. The initial worry of the war may turn out to be gold for the future in many places. Terrorists and dictatorships no longer hold any cards to play with. About time too.

Fred Hooper


agreed. agreed. agreed. and if you are from australia, thank you for your country's help. i wish i could be as proud of the stance my own country has taken as you are [i assume i'am inferring correctly from your post].
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