Goblet of Fire book discussion

Book 4: HP & the Goblet of Fire Forum

Thread open to discuss the Goblet of Fire. If you want to go on a chapter by chapter search for clues, let me know who is in for it, and we can start.

Let's go chapter by chapter like we are with book 5. And I wouldn't mind having a discussion for the other 3 too.

Cool. I will get book four started this weekend, unless you want to start a chapter summary.

Sherry... yes, let's do a chapter by chapter of GoF. That will be interesting.

Cool, I will post the first chapter summary tomorrow.

I'm ready!

The Goblet of Fire, Chapter 1 Summary The Riddle House
*The book begins in the village of Little Hangleton at the Riddle House. The Riddles were a very rich Muggle Family who were mysteriously murdered 50 years ago. Tom Riddle had been a rich, snobbish muggle. The caretaker, Frank, was suspected in the murders, but they could not prove it. He stayed on to look after the manor after the death of the owners. He claimed that a young dark haird boy had been near the manor on the day of the deaths.

Frank sees lights coming from the house and goes up to investigate. He hears Wormtail and Voldemort plotting to kill Harry. Nagini is loose in the house and informs Voldemort that an elderly muggle is listening to their plans. Voldemort still does not have a body, but he kills Frank. Interesting thing is that Wormtail tried to get away from Voldemort to find another person to kill instead of Harry. Voldemort would have died without his help. Voldemort knows that Wormtail finds him repulsive and stays out of fear not love

I was a little thrown off by how this book began. The first three all began at the Dursleys.

It was a huge signal that things would change forever in this book.

Good point, Sherry!


Now let's pick this chapter apart!

The Riddle house is in a village called Little Hangleton

I'm a bit confused however. Is Tom Riddle dead too? It says all three of them.

The Riddle Family was killed, and Tom Jr. was still alive. Do you think he inherited their wealth?

Voldemort is an accomlishe legillimens, so he knew that Wormtail did not WANT to be with him.

Wonder who the rich owner is?

Their son Tom Riddle. Voldemort's true name is Tom Marvolo Riddle. He changed his name because he felt that the Heir of Salazar Slytherin was above sharing a name with his Muggle father who abandoned him.

Okay, let me get this straight. Does this mean that Voldemort was one of the dead people?

Or was it Voldemort's father and grandparents? Was Voldemort the pale, dark haired boy?

No, Voldemorts father and grandparents were killed. Voldemort was the killer.

I knew when I first opened up and started reading GoF, that this book would be different, because of how it started. There was a lot of darkness, the plotting of Harry's death, and the death of the grounds keeper.

Okay, got it! Thanks! I was a bit confused. I understand now.

Whewie.... we can't have the Gryffindor prefect confused!

I'll leave all the hard stuff for Hermione.

Who found the old mans dead body?

I don't know, good question, zeppelinrules 16. Did anyone find him? What about the rich owner? He may not have been found. The only way we know he is dead is because of Harry's dream.


This is a perfect example of foreshadowing, not only for this book, but book 5 too.

Could Harry's scar also hurt when Voldemort kills someone? Because he woke up with his scar hurting right after Voldemort killed the old man. Voldemort didn't seem angry.

I think we are just beginning to see the significance of Harry's scar and how it connects him to Voldemort.

II think that Harry did feel it when he killed the muggle. I think that is what woke him up. We start the book and learn that Harry can view Voldemort at times in his dreams. Luckily, Voldemort does not know this yet.

I believe the first Chapter to be a dream sequence for Harry. He sees the events of that particular night unfold in his dreams and so he doesn't believe them to be completely real. The part before was just giving the history of Riddle House and its occupants, which turns out to be rather important in the end.

(by the way I am now on chapter three of the Order of the Pheonix)

Keep reading, Tiger! And resist the temptation to fly through the book. Take your time and really try to soak everything in. Stick around! We like having you here.

It could be Lucius Malfoy too.

I think Lucius is a collector, and wouldn't the Riddle house be the ultimate find for a collector.

I'm not sure if SURPRISED is the word that I would describe Lucius by the return of Voldemort. I have a feeling that Lucius KNEW that Voldemort would be back. And I'm sure that he, like all the death eaters, feared that Voldemort could find fault in what his "servants", as I call the death eaters, in what they have been doing all these years.

The thing with evil characters like Voldemort is that they find fault in all the, as you put it, servants. The only ones he didn't fin fault in were those that had died, those in Azkaban and Barty Crouch.

The Riddle house would not be a place to collect things about Voldemort. He never lived there. His father abandoned his mother upon learning that she was a witch. The manor was a plain muggle home.

I expect that Voldemorts father was called Tom Riddle as well then.

That's what I'm assuming, Tiger.

Tom Riddle-father of Tom Marvolo Riddle aka Lord Voldemort

I take it we're finished with this chapter then.

Chapter 2 Summary The Scar

*Harry wakes up in his bedroom on Privet Drive, with his scar burning. He's just had a dream.

*Harry thinks about what Dumbledore, Hermione and Ron would say about his scar burning, decides not to bother them about it.

*He writes to Sirius about the scar.

*This chapter reviews a lot of what happened in the other 3 books.

nothing to discuss in this chapter
i m now reading chap 8 the quiddich word cup in GOf book 4 is intresting

There's not enough interest in this thread to make it work.

i am very interested soo lets keep goin there is a lot more to find out and we can't just give up because not everyone wants to do this we hav people and from what i hav read so far we really don't need very many people becuase you guys hav got a lot done and made it easier to understand