Another Beheading From The Religion Of Peace

Post-9/11 Era Forum

HOW DOES THIS STAND IN THE YEAR 2004?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?

An al-Qaida group beheaded American engineer Paul M. Johnson Jr., posting three grisly photographs Friday of the hostage's severed head and threatening the same punishment for Westerners in Saudi Arabia

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Screw Muslims.

I've never seen that religion do anything but kill others and themselves.

Dreamwalker, are you serious? It is not the religion that is acting, it is individuals. Like individuals in the KKK. They are not religious people, there are acting against thier faith.

We act as individuals, not as groups. We all have to make our own choices.

There's an interesting book by a woman named Isrhad Manji, a Pakistani Muslim who is now a TV commentator living in Canada. Her book is an open letter to Muslims calling for reform within Islam. She has this to say about whether the behavior of Muslims has anything to do with Islam or if it is just individual behavior:

"Not solely because of September 11, but more urgently because of it, we've got to end Islam's totalitarianism, particularly the gross human rights violations against women and religious minorities. You'll want to assure me that what I am describing in this open letter to you isn't "true" Islam. Frankly, such a distinction wouldn't have impressed Prophet Mohammud, who said that religion is the way we conduct ourselves toward others-not theoretically, but actually. By that standard, how Muslims behave is Islam."

She also points out that fundamentalism is the norm in Islam. Those who interpret the religion more loosely are the fringe of that religion. The fundamentalists are mainstream.

- woolfe

Islam is a cancer on this planet. Time to wake up.

People have always used religion as an excuse to kill others. Religion, patriotism, nationalism there can all be used as excuses to justify brutality and barbarism. Even Hitler in his own mind was making the world a better place.

You are right h@ts, the crusades, hitler, Persia was pretty bad, turkish genocides, etc, can be used and/or gloried in the name of religion.

Hilter used nationalism to fuel hatred. He rose to power by campaigning and causing fellow germans to believe that the reason for the dying economy of Germany was due to the Jews. His belief was that the Jews were taking over everything and anything - and in order to purify the land and regain economic power was to remove them from the world permanently.

So, just to clarify something, dreamwalker, do you think the Qu'ran is teaching this hatred, or the teachers of the Qu'ran are teaching hatred, and SOME followers act on in. Since there is over a billion Muslims and there have not been nearly that many who "claim death, suicide bombings, and murder in the name of Alah over and over again."

Logan.

I have to agree with Logan dreamzwalker! I have read the Qu'ran, never once did i read that be suicide bombings, beheadings of any race....etc!

There are radiculs in every religion. Look at Timothy McV...the killer of women and children in a fed building. Was he classified as a Terrorist under the christian religion. No he was a nut job!

The bottom line: Look if you lived in a 3rd world country living in some village with no running water, electricity, never have even seen an orange, what would you do? If by 5-6 years of age your family was going to send you to the nearest city to look for work as either a servant to some random house hold where you could be raped and tortured, or you could have an outstanding career as a begger turning tricks in brothels male or female. These populations are poor and uneducated with no other alternative. If you lived in this situation and some recruit came to your family offering food and education to your children, what would you do? Take the jobs in the city as an outcast servant or would you take to position as to provide food and money to your family.
Now it is a shame that these radiculs take advantage of these poor and uneducated families, but dont blame it on a religion.

The way i see it is, if you blame one single religion for bombings , terrorism, etc....you have to be just plain stupid!!
Blame the cowards hiding behind the religion!!! DUH!!

J

I agree, who are you ijada?
Do you follow any particular faith?

Logan.

i dont care to share that with anybody, as it is all about what you have faith in!

Well that is okay too. I was just interested.
I love to talk to people about thier faith, sorry if I offended.

Logan.

I have a question to everyone who has wrote in this forum??? Does anyone really understand what ALAH means.

Let me tell you then because i am almost sickened by what i have read about the idiotic remarks above.

Alah means God, just like in the christian faith GOD in English is GOD
Well in Aribic ALAH IS GOD...
there is only one god in the muslim religion. There are many similarities in the muslim faith as there is in christianity. Pick up the Qu'ran and read it before you pass judgment on another faith because you sound just stupid!!!!

J

no not at all i am not offended

If you are puzzled as to my religion i will tell you that I am not Muslim

It is clear that you are wrong. I feel sorry for you, let me see do you also believe that these men of Jihad will also parish in paridise with many women and treasures. It sounds like to me that you have a hatred towards people of many religions. It is simple, these people that claim to be muslim and take part of the jihad are cowards hiding behind a religion.These are sick individuals that take part in a crazy cult, bombing, killing there own people, beheading.....etc

I dont need to read your posts on Islam as I am well aware.....thank you

DevilDog's claim that Allah is not the Arabic word for God not only insults Muslims, but also Christian, Catholic, and Jewish Arabs who use the word Allah.

So basicly, an Arab who is Christian can prove DevilDog wrong.

He insults a lot of people. I think that there are many people that are uneducated about many 3rd world counrtie and the choices that they have. Like I have always said that these men that claim to be Muslim and fighting in a holy war are Cowards.....they kill innocent people and teach ignorance. This does not mean that the rest of the population of Muslims are killers. Ever since "9/11" everyone thinks that they know the world of Pakistani's, Afghani's, Jews, Palastiniens,....etc! Once you have visited these places then pass judgment! Isn't it so nice to wake up in the morning get out of your cozy bed, turn on the lights in your home, use the bathroom, then turn on the hot water in the shower to get clean, put on some nice fresh smelling clothes, go into the kitchen and make your self A nice Hearty meal, get into your car drive around meet some friends chat for a while freely, then meet up later and have a nice cold one together at a local bar!! Man what freedom! I think what the vast majority of People and not just americans suffer from is not knowing the horrid truth about what lies in these countries. There are not many alternatives for majority of people of 3rd world. So i wish that people would stop blaming it on a certain religion....it is not the religion it is the wack jobs that hide behind it!!

Ohh this is to Devildog,
You talk about Hitler....gee Hitler was a quarter Jew! He was a wack job that brainwashed people to believe that Jews were dirty rats taking over buisness industries. The jewish were very smart in many skills, that is why he kept so many men around of Jewish decent to do book keeping, and other labors that took brain of thought!! Hitler was sick and twisted calling for a pure race when in fact he was a "dirty rat" himself!!

Thanks have a nice life

You guys do a lot of talking but once again you bring no proof that I am in error. Call me hateful all you want. It won't change a thing about Islam. If you are offended, than I suggest you find a new prophet and religion because I just present the facts.

And BTW; When lies are told about Islam....I am offended.

BTW: News flash iam not Muslim i just so happened to be well educated about the religion and the cultures. I dont see any facts inwhich you have brought to the table just a hatefull opinion. That is fine you are entitled to your opinion, and you wonder why there is so many hate crimes in this world. There have been no lies told about Islam from be so get your facts staight!

J

They just proved their hatred for Jews. Now whos prejudice? The one who exposes a murderous religion or those who believe in the hatred of Jews?

Dog, keep up the good work.

First of all USA1 I am not the one that brought anything up about the Jews, Dog is you should read what he has posted. I was talking about what Dog had said about the Jews and hitler. Tell me one thing that I said about the Jews that was hatefull.....give me a break!! The both of you have a hatrred towards a single religion of people.News flash....not alll muslims are murders!

You make me laugh how you twist everything that I say and pretend that you know everything, if that is the case gee maybe you should be a Historian of religion and educate everyone

ijada,
My mistake, I misread what you said about "dirty rat".
My appologies.
No to TWBR though....

Thank you for seeing that. I have no hate towards one religion or race.

Ishaq:368 “We carried his head back to Muhammad during the night, saluted the Prophet as he stood praying, and cast Ashraf’s head before his feet. The Prophet praised Allah that the poet had been slain, and complimented us on the good work we had done in Allah’s Cause. Our attack upon Allah’s enemy cast terror among the Jews, and there was no Jew in Medina who did not fear for his life.’”

IMHO religion has caused more death, destruction and general misery in this world than any other entity. You have the Catholics and the Protestants in Ireland, you have the Jews and the Palistinians, You have the Muslims and just about everybody in the world. Where is the peace and love that Jesus and Mohammad talked about?

Muhammed never spoke of peace and love. Nor did he convey one single word of Yahshua's(Jesus) message. And you might want to check the numbers killed by atheists. Look no further than Stalin, Hitler and Mao Tse-tung.

note that Atheism is a religion... so KerryO's statement still stands.

It's my understanding that Hitler was not an athiest. I may be wrong about that but I don't think so. I thought that Islam was a religion of peace and love.
It doesn't seem so from where I'm sitting. I've been trying to check out a Koran from the library, but haven't been able to find it available yet. I still think religion
has been a major deterrent to peace on earth. And I realize that some would say that it's not the religion, but the people who practice it.

post #34 quote:

note that Atheism is a religion... so KerryO's statement still stands.




OK

Hitler was a vegetarian and liked animals - so beware those that badmouth McDonalds and Burger King and stubbornly refuse to shovel dead animals down their necks.

Wasn't Stalin a stamp collector and enthusiastic gardener?