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Posted by: Sayzak

This is another forwarded email I got. I haven't checked these facts but you can if you want.

Below are the actual voting records of various Arabic/Islamic States
which are recorded in both the US State Department and United Nations records:


Kuwait votes against the United States 67% of the time.


Qatar votes against the United States 67% of the time.


Morocco votes against the United States 70% of the time.


United Arab Emirates votes against the U. S. 70% of the time.


Jordan votes against the United States 71% of the time.


Tunisia votes against the United States 71% of the time.


Saudi Arabia votes against the United States 73% of the time.


Yemen votes against the United States 74% of the time.


Algeria votes against the United States 74% of the time.


Oman votes against the United States 74% of the time.


Sudan votes against the United States 75% of the time.


Pakistan votes against the United States 75% of the time.


Libya votes against the United States 76% of the time.


Egypt votes against the United States 79% of the time.


Lebanon votes against the United States 80% of the time.


India votes against the United States 81% of the time.


Syria votes against the United States 84% of the time.


Mauritania votes against the United States 87% of the time.




US Foreign Aid to those that hate us:


Egypt, for example, after voting 79% of the time against the United
States, still receives $2 billion annually in US Foreign Aid.


Jordan votes 71% against the United States and receives $192,814,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.


Pakistan votes 75% against the United States receives $6,721,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.


India votes 81% against the United States receives $143,699,000 annually.


Perhaps it is time to get out of the UN and give the tax savings back to the
American workers who are having to skimp and sacrifice to pay the taxes.

Now they want to cut oil production, We should cut aid to them by 50% to start.

Pass it along. Everyone needs to know this.
Might even mention it to your congressman, who knows it anyway...

what a disgrace...no wonder the world has no respect for us!

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Posted by: kula

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Sayzak said this in post #1 :
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what a disgrace...no wonder the world has no respect for us!


This is just one way the world SHOWS YOU it has no respect for you, it is not the REASON the world has no respect for the USA. I could post a list of those if you like.

You cant buy respect (and you cant bomb it either, but thats a lesson you are still learning)

kula
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Posted by: Curley Joe

Right, Zak:

http://www.inreview.com/showthread....9460&forumid=13

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Posted by: lodgebo

So any foreign aid that the US gives is menat to be seen as a down payment for votes in the UN? Thats corruption and I am pretty sure that US has made these sort of acts illegal.

PS is India not predominatly Hindi as opposed to Muslim can anyone clear that one up?

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Posted by: Sayzak

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kula said this in post #2 :


This is just one way the world SHOWS YOU it has no respect for you, it is not the REASON the world has no respect for the USA. I could post a list of those if you like.

You cant buy respect (and you cant bomb it either, but thats a lesson you are still learning)

kula


No, the world has no respect for us because despite the fact is dislikes us so much, it's still asking for--and receiving--help from us. Sadly the U.S.A. is guilty of bending over backwards for nations who don't appreciate us.

I have an idea why the world has no respect for us, but I'd like to see a list from you, since you offered.
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Posted by: h@ts

The figures means nothing on their own. Have you any idea what these countries do to get aid, or what the aid is for. And as I've pointed out before on this forum, the US is pretty low down in the list of aid doners around the world. Not even in the top 20 countries.

As for all those UN votes, again meaningless unless you know what they're voting on. Everyone knows the Arab objection to what the US is doing in Israel. Looking at it that way - it's just as easy to ask why the US keeps voting against all above mentioned nations. Any answers?

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Posted by: Curley Joe

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Sayzak said this in post #5 :


No, the world has no respect for us because despite the fact it dislikes us so much, it's still asking for--and receiving--help from us. Sadly the U.S.A. is guilty of bending over backwards for nations who don't appreciate us.


That's the long and short of it, Zak.
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Posted by: Anomaly77

I do not know what the truth of the matter is but, this can really be looked at in several different ways.

The US gives aid to these countries despite their voting against it. Are we trying to buy friends or are them coming to us with one hand out begging while the other hand is behind their back with a knife?

I can't say that I know either to be more true than the other. Perhaps they both are. Regardless, the question that this discussion begs is; why do we continue to give aid to countries that vote against us? Is it because we are just a kind-hearted nation? I really don't think that is the case. SO then why?

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Posted by: lodgebo

You would also need to see exactly what the vote was about to get a clearer picture.

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Posted by: Anomaly77

Well, we have have to know what it is they are voting against to get the clearer picture. But, it would also help to know what, it is exactly that we are giving them aid for.

Anyhow, I think that the US will give aid to these countries, regardless of all the above, because if we didn't, we would look like the "bad country" that doesn't try to help.

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Posted by: Advance

You don't get it, we aren't fighting for respect.

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Posted by: Anomaly77

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Advance said this in post #11 :
You don't get it, we aren't fighting for respect.


(big sigh)...I am not discussing why we are fighting. I was discussing why we continue to give aid to countries that do not support our interests in the UN.
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Posted by: USA1

I say stop sending them aid.

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Posted by: MrJukoVette

Yup. No more millions on their politicians' personal bank accounts. They have enough.

Let them work and build their own nations themselves, why should the western countries like USA give billions to these countries if they can't even use it wisely.

Btw, the only country receiving US aid and benefitting from it is Israel.

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Posted by: h@ts

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MrJukoVette said this in post #14 :
Btw, the only country receiving US aid and benefitting from it is Israel.


Yes it's just fabulous what the US aid to Israel is achieving in that small part of the world. If only everywhere that was given aid could be like that.
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Posted by: woolfe99

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h@ts said this in post #15 :


Yes it's just fabulous what the US aid to Israel is achieving in that small part of the world. If only everywhere that was given aid could be like that.


Arguably, without US aid, Israel would no longer exist. If you don't support Israel's right to exist, which many Europeans don't, then of course it's entirely consistent to oppose US aid.

- woolfe
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Posted by: h@ts

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woolfe99 said this in post #16 :


Arguably, without US aid, Israel would no longer exist. If you don't support Israel's right to exist, which many Europeans don't, then of course it's entirely consistent to oppose US aid.

- woolfe


Israel is in no danger of disapearing. It is by far the most powerfully armed country in that part of the world and has full US backing. As a nation it is safe and I have never heard a politician in Britain ever say that the state of Israel has no right to exist.

I listened to Jewish settlers yesterday saying why they will not leave Gazza, not matter what Sharon thinks, somethin like - it is a little bit of heaven on earth and God gave it to us. There are extremists on both sides and they will never make peace and must be bi-passed somehow for the sake of the rest of the world as well as moderate Israels and Palastinians.
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Posted by: h@ts

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woolfe99 said this in post #16 :


Arguably, without US aid, Israel would no longer exist. If you don't support Israel's right to exist, which many Europeans don't, then of course it's entirely consistent to oppose US aid.

- woolfe


Israel is in no danger of disapearing. It is by far the most powerfully armed country in that part of the world and has full US backing. As a nation it is safe and I have never heard a politician in Britain ever say that the state of Israel has no right to exist.

I listened to Jewish settlers yesterday saying why they will not leave Gazza, not matter what Sharon thinks, somethin like - it is a little bit of heaven on earth and God gave it to us. There are extremists on both sides and they will never make peace and must be bi-passed somehow for the sake of the rest of the world as well as moderate Israels and Palastinians.
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Posted by: oneofpeace

One need not look far as to why the US gives to these countries. Just look at how we handled the building of the Iraq coalition and subsequent invasion. We worked behind the scenes making promises and giving how you say “incentives” for those going along with it. It amounts to bribery plainly put.

I’d think it should be pretty apparent by now that the US has interests in that region. To help stifle much of the animosity we give aid to these countries. Consequently they become dependant on that aid and we now have a bargaining chip within the UN and other world matters involving that region. It also helps us to achieve the appearance of benevolence.

Is it wrong? I think it works to the US’s advantage to do so, that’s obvious but many times because of it other Mid East nations may get the shaft. It’s sort of a two edged sword. It helps us and it hurts us because extremist will see their governments as selling out to western interests and unfortunately fueling their twisted agendas.

It’s always better to give aid than to make war. Remember we were aiding Saddam at one time too until he decided he did not want it anymore. America has great wealth and other nations do not. In this they become easy targets to achieve US objectives, even with some of our objectives aren’t so righteous unfortunately.

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Posted by: USA1

America is not the only country with interests or investments in the middle-east.
To think America is responcible all by itself is not being realistic.
Israel is self sufficient. They can take care of themselves without American support.
Also, there is more combined support from Europe than from the US.

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Posted by: MrJukoVette

Keep "private" support in mind, which is coming from private jewish individuals/organizations. Both Europe and USA have big jewish communities donating money to Israel.

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Posted by: USA1

That's what I meant. It's not all American support so it's not all America's fault for the every problem in the middle-east.
How many middle-east countries do legitmate business with the U.S.? All?

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Posted by: oneofpeace

No, there are many other nations that have a vested interest in that region. However the US clearly has the heaviest influence in that region. After all, we are the ones most dependant on the resources they have to offer.

How many of these nations are willing to have a heavy military presence in that region to help accomplish their agendas? I think this is what extremists complain about concerning the US. I don't recall reading anyone saying the US is the cause of all problems in that region. Maybe that one slipped past me.

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Posted by: whisperpoint

We give many of them aid so they will have the resources to drill the wells to pump the oil to sell cheaply to us. We may call it aid to countries, but what the money does for the most part is prop up American corporations so it pays to do business in countries that are financially risky due to political reasons. Of course the government gives more money to the countries we have problems with. These are the countries big business can point to and say the free market is being ruined by the USA political posturing. Business asks taxpayers to cough up the cost of political righteousness to balance things out.

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Posted by: woolfe99

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oneofpeace said this in post #23 :
How many of these nations are willing to have a heavy military presence in that region to help accomplish their agendas?


How many nations really have the capability to prosecute a war in the middle east without sustaining heavy casualties? Not many other than the US.

I think the reasons for our intervention there have more to do with ideology than economics. To the extent that economics are a factor, it isn't a short term goal of getting Iraqi oil. It's more a long term goal of installing democratic and pro-western regimes there that are likely to treat the US favorably in the oil market, and in other areas both political and economic.

- woolfe
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