Is Harry A Seer?

Book 5: HP & the Order of the Phoenix Forum

I wanted to start a new thread about this, because I didn't want to post too off topic in the chapter summary thread.

But one thing which was brought up in that was in Chapter 4 (i think) when Harry enters the Black house, he felt death or something... I don't have the book on hand, so I can't check the actual quote right now.

But one other thing that I realised recently is that Harry saw the Thestrals in his 5th year, and no year before that. Some people say this may be a delayed reaction to the death of his parents, but I'm beginning to believe that wasn't it at all.

Harry saw the Thestrals because he had SEEN Sirius's death... if only subconciously...

Even though this isn't quite enough to prove conclusively that this is true, it's a start.

Could Harry be a seer? Could that be how he eventually triumphs against Voldemort? By predicting his every move?

I dunno, but thought you guys may be interested

Oh, Tonks also suggested it in chapter 22 of OOTP

However, another possibility, I've realised for him seeing the Thestrals is that Voldemort had seen death, and Harry could see the Thestrals because of the death Voldemort had seen...

If anyone's got anything to add though, that'd be great

I believe that Harry saw the thestrals because he saw Cedric die. Harry still could be a seer. He has great instincts, so that may be a clue to his ability.

argh, forgot about poor Cedric Oh man, that's bad...

Well, you are a guy, so that is ok.

I love digging up old threads.


I think Harry and Ron might both be seers. In book 4 when they are doing their Divination homework, they get tired of it and decide to just make stuff up. But think about some of the things they think up. They aren't totally accurate, but some of their 'made up' predictions come pretty close. They are wrong on the days and exactly what happens, but it may just be because their joking around and not taking it seriously.

Book 4, Chapter 14, Unforgivable Curses

"Right," said Harry, crumpling up his first attempts and lobbing it over the heads of a group of chattering first years into the fire. "Okay...on Monday, I will be in danger of--er--burns."
"Yeah, you will be," said Ron darkly, "we're seeing the skrewts again on Monday. Okay, Tuesday, I'll...erm..."

(Well, Harry does end up facing a dragon. So, while it wasn't skrewts on Monday, he was in danger of burns)

Lose a treasured possession," said Harry, who was flicking through Unfogging the Future for ideas.
"Good one," said Ron, copying it down. "Because, erm...Mercury. Why don't you get stabbed in the back by someone you thought was your friend?"
"Yeah...cool..." said Harry, scribbling it down, "because...Venus is in the twelfth house."
"And on Wednesday, I think I'll come off worst in a fight."

(Well, Harry and Ron end up losing a treasured possession, each other. Ron thought Harry lied to him, or 'stabbed him in the back', and Harry thought that lack of support from Ron meant that he was too being 'stabbed in the back' And they do have a fight.)

"Aaah, I was going to have a fight. Okay. I'll lose a bet."

(Well, neither one of them lose a bet, but other characters do...Fred, George, who are connected to Ron and Bagman who is connected to Harry)


A little later, Hermione joins them and when she looks at Ron's paper, she tells him that he appears to be drowning twice. Well, he is a hostage in task 2. And he might have gotten the 'twice' because Hermione ends up being a hostage too.


I don't know. Could be nothing, but I thought it was too coincidental not to mention.

Wow, that is a really good point. No fair, I only have the OOTP at the moment, because all my other books are in oxes from when me moved.

Did the oxes eat your books?

TYPO! Boxes!