How they vote in the U.N. |
| Posted by: Curley Joe | | Below are the actual voting records of various Arabic/Islamic States which are recorded in both the U.S. State Department and United Nations' records:
Kuwait votes against the United States 67% of the time.
Qatar votes against the United States 67% of the time.
Morocco votes against t he United States 70% of the time.
United Arab Emirates votes against the U. S. 70% of the time.
Jordan votes against the United States 71% of the time.
Tunisia votes against the United States 71% of the time.
Saudi Arabia votes against the United States 73% of the time.
Yemen votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Algeria votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Oman votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Sudan votes against the United States 75% of the time.
Pakistan votes against the United States 75% of the time.
Libya votes against the United States 76% of the time.
Egypt votes against the United States 79% of the time.
Lebanon votes against the United States 80% of the time.
India votes against the United States 81% of the time.
Syria votes against the United States 84% of the time.
Mauritania votes against the United States 87% of the time.
US Foreign Aid to those that hate us:
Egypt, for example, after voting 79% of the time against the United States, still receives $2 billion annually in U.S. Foreign Aid.
Jordan votes 71% against the United States and receives $192,814,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.
Pakistan votes 75% against the United States receives $6,721,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.
India votes 81% against the United States receives $143,699,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.
Perhaps it is time to get out of the U.N. and give the tax savings back to the American workers who are having to skimp and sacrifice to pay the taxes. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Advance | | Beautiful, great post! Thank you. Just try not to link to it in all other threads ^^. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: h@ts | | And this means what? These countries hate America? take the US for a fool? disagree with what America does most of the time? What? Any context here or are people just supposed to summise? Okay I'll summise - everyone hates the US!! Go away.
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| Posted by: woolfe99 | | I'll surmise the context. It has to do with people criticizing the fact that the US gives foreign aid dollars to Israel. Israel is an ally of the US. These other countries who receive foreign aid are not. That's why many of the countries listed above do not receive aid, and those who do, receive less than Israel. If the US is going to give its money away, it would seem beyond dispute that the money goes first to those countries that support US interests. That may or may not be Curly's point, but it is my point. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: kula | | Yes it's true, no matter how much money the US pays to countries, they still vote against you.
You just cant buy the rest of the world like you do Britney CD's.
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| Posted by: Anomaly77 | | Curley Joe:
In what way are they voting against us? Do you mean in the UN, voting against our interests? I'm not criticizing; just a little unclear here. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: woolfe99 | | What it means is that they vote on the other side of the US's voting position. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: woolfe99 | |
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Dekka00 said this in post #8 :
hey, well, that's democracy. |
Yes, democracy. They can cast their votes as they see fit, and we can do with our money as we see fit.
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| Posted by: Curley Joe | |
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woolfe99 said this in post #9 :
Yes, democracy. They can cast their votes as they see fit, and we can do with our money as we see fit. |
Exactly! 
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| Posted by: h@ts | |
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Curley Joe said this in post #10 :
Exactly! |
Well done, thanks for clearing up your post...
Is this something to do with the American dream you speak of?
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| Posted by: Curley Joe | |
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h@ts said this in post #11 :
Well done, thanks for clearing up your post...
Is this something to do with the American dream you speak of? |
Try cratching the top of your head and see if the light comes on. 
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| Posted by: whisperpoint | | Only in a Capitalist society would someone track dollars spent to votes bought. It is no wonder the world sees the USA views of democracy as hypocritical with posts like this available for everyone to see. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: gdog | |
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whisperpoint said this in post #13 :
Only in a Capitalist society would someone track dollars spent to votes bought. It is no wonder the world sees the USA views of democracy as hypocritical with posts like this available for everyone to see. |
Ok, I understand that line of thinking, very globally conscience.
But address this angle:
No one is obligated to agree with our policies, or vote with us, if they disagree. But are we supposed to feel obligated to provide millions of dollars of financial aid to countries who would vote on one subject, purely based on our relationship with another country. Is it unreasonable to expect a certain level of alliance from a country we are helping financially survive?
If were financing a lions share of the UN, financing middle eastern and European countries year after year, but we need to humble ourselves before the world because were afraid of being viewed as hypocrites.
Id be interested to hear WHY, we should continue to finance the world in the ways we have. It seems to be an unappreciated venture. Put very bluntly......whats the payoff?
We never seem to get any credit for being charitable, we obviously dont get any political pull for our dollar, many posters here delight in reminding us how hated the US is, so, why make the investment?
Does the world expect us to attone for some supposed past bad deeds by financially supporting countries who would probably be just as happy to see any or all of our ventures fail?
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| Posted by: Dekka00 | | that's true, you really can't get mad at the US for expecting an alliance
however, if it truly is charity, it is a gift. No strings attached. If it's true warm-heartedness that is motivating our aid, we shouldn't even be expecting any recognition for our acts of kindness. Humility has to go along with the charity, or it's not charity, it's bribery. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: h@ts | |
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gdog said this in post #14 :
Ok, I understand that line of thinking, very globally conscience.
But address this angle:
No one is obligated to agree with our policies, or vote with us, if they disagree. But are we supposed to feel obligated to provide millions of dollars of financial aid to countries who would vote on one subject, purely based on our relationship with another country. Is it unreasonable to expect a certain level of alliance from a country we are helping financially survive?
If were financing a lions share of the UN, financing middle eastern and European countries year after year, but we need to humble ourselves before the world because were afraid of being viewed as hypocrites.
Id be interested to hear WHY, we should continue to finance the world in the ways we have. It seems to be an unappreciated venture. Put very bluntly......whats the payoff?
We never seem to get any credit for being charitable, we obviously dont get any political pull for our dollar, many posters here delight in reminding us how hated the US is, so, why make the investment?
Does the world expect us to attone for some supposed past bad deeds by financially supporting countries who would probably be just as happy to see any or all of our ventures fail? |
This is such a tired old argument, and really whiny sounding. The US isn't anymore generous than any other coutry. Do you actually think that you give money to countries for nothing in return - the other nations might have to open up markets for American business, sell off utilities like the banks, electricity, water etc, allow military bases in strategic areas etc etc.
There's always a catch, and that's the way the world works and all contries give aid and operate like this.
And it's not just money, the US offers protection too. I've just been watching a documentary showing that the US promised total protection for the Saudi Royal family after WWII (and has up to the present day). America didn't do this because it was being NICE! The US got in return a promise of a cheap and reliable supply of oil. Thus Arabs could not have power over the US by using oil as a weapon - and the Saudis were disliked for this much of the time in the ME.
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| Posted by: gdog | | h@ts:
You really dont have to feel compelled to weigh in on every post I make here. The question was not posed to you, but the person who commented. If you HAD an opinionated answer relating to the question......that would be one thing. But as usual, you completely ignore the brunt of the question, hop up on your soap box, and rant and rave about the subject and prove you know very little about what you preach.
Passion without reason is just alot of noise.
So, you want to weigh in here?
Why is the U.S the largest monetary contributor to the U.N.?
Since, as you say, the U.S is no more generous than any other country. Why is the UN based on our soil? Its diplomats enjoy diplomatic immunity, while living Carte Blanche on our dime?
Which country gives more in foreign aid than the U.S?
What exactly, did we get for our humanitarian aid from Iran when the earthquake leveled a large area of populated land? This aid was offered to a country which is openly hostile to us, held our citizens hostage, and would love to thwart our efforts in the middle east. And still, the U.S was one of the first countries to step up and provide humanitarian aid. I dont know this for fact, but I imagine we also topped the list in amount given.
Were we just checking out the real estate?
I dont seem to remember Iran sending us foreign aid on 9/11.
I seem to remember they danced in the streets.
Dont get me wrong, Id never submit the U.S would never push an agenda while being charitable. I like you to show me a country which throws a percent of the money we do, and does not try to further an agenda which is favorable to it.
I guess the point of why I have no respect for any opinion you offer is the simple fact that you can never consider, even the most remote possibility, that the U.S is capable of any act, which is based on anything but greed, world domination, or power.
Its like you've adopted such a left view, that the whole point is all but lost to you.
BTW, you start out telling me how this is a tired old argument...
It looked like a question to me. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: h@ts | |
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gdog said this in post #17 :
h@ts:
You really dont have to feel compelled to weigh in on every post I make here. The question was not posed to you, but the person who commented. If you HAD an opinionated answer relating to the question......that would be one thing. But as usual, you completely ignore the brunt of the question, hop up on your soap box, and rant and rave about the subject and prove you know very little about what you preach.
Passion without reason is just alot of noise.
So, you want to weigh in here?
Why is the U.S the largest monetary contributor to the U.N.?
Since, as you say, the U.S is no more generous than any other country. Why is the UN based on our soil? Its diplomats enjoy diplomatic immunity, while living Carte Blanche on our dime?
Which country gives more in foreign aid than the U.S?
What exactly, did we get for our humanitarian aid from Iran when the earthquake leveled a large area of populated land? This aid was offered to a country which is openly hostile to us, held our citizens hostage, and would love to thwart our efforts in the middle east. And still, the U.S was one of the first countries to step up and provide humanitarian aid. I dont know this for fact, but I imagine we also topped the list in amount given.
Were we just checking out the real estate?
I dont seem to remember Iran sending us foreign aid on 9/11.
I seem to remember they danced in the streets.
Dont get me wrong, Id never submit the U.S would never push an agenda while being charitable. I like you to show me a country which throws a percent of the money we do, and does not try to further an agenda which is favorable to it.
I guess the point of why I have no respect for any opinion you offer is the simple fact that you can never consider, even the most remote possibility, that the U.S is capable of any act, which is based on anything but greed, world domination, or power.
Its like you've adopted such a left view, that the whole point is all but lost to you.
BTW, you start out telling me how this is a tired old argument...
It looked like a question to me. |
I keep hearing guys like you say that the US is the most generous country in the wolrd, it's the best at this and it's the best at that. It's both tiresome and untrue.
I should expect all coutries to do what they can to help in a disaster like the Iranian earthquake. The differences and rivalries between the elites and ruling parties in eastern and western countries has little to do with ordinary people caught up in these disasters.
But please stop whining that you get nothing back. Big deal. You've helped thousands of people in Iran who have suffered in a terrible disaster. It's enough.
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