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Posted by: Duckyone

You see on the T.V. All these "Kids". They're in Big Time Trouble.
Shootings in our schools. Kids building Bombs in their parents garage. Beating Strangers up "Just Because."

"Why?"
Lack of Parental involvement?
Schools?
Bully's'?
Just being Kids?
Neighborhoods?
Environment?
(oops maybe I should have put this on General,But I wanted a Parents reply)

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Posted by: Anomaly77

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Duckyone said this in post #1 :
You see on the T.V. All these "Kids". They're in Big Time Trouble.
Shootings in our schools. Kids building Bombs in their parents garage. Beating Strangers up "Just Because."

"Why?"
Lack of Parental involvement?
Schools?
Bully's'?
Just being Kids?
Neighborhoods?
Environment?
(oops maybe I should have put this on General,But I wanted a Parents reply)


I'm not a parent but, I did an extensive research study on this topic, my senior year for my BA in Sociology.

All of the points that you named could be contributors...my personal opinion based on my research; isolation. By this, I do not mean that the child is literally alone, but definitely feels this way...lack of parental involvement, bullies making them feel unwanted or unwelcome, a lack of strong social ties.

It is way past my bedtime, so I'm going to subscribe to this tread so that I remember to come back. I can point you to some good reading material on the subject, if you like.
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Posted by: mystic

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Duckyone said this in post #1 :
You see on the T.V. All these "Kids". They're in Big Time Trouble.
Shootings in our schools. Kids building Bombs in their parents garage. Beating Strangers up "Just Because."

"Why?"
Lack of Parental involvement?
Schools?
Bully's'?
Just being Kids?
Neighborhoods?
Environment?
(oops maybe I should have put this on General,But I wanted a Parents reply)


As a parent myself, I dont know if I can effectively answer that because my son is only 6 years old...but as a criminal justice major I think I can say that it probably is or might be a combination of a few of those factors (if not all in some cases)...

I dont think you can only have one element and truly blame it on that...I mean it can be one but usually it takes more than one of the elements you listed.

I see that Anomaly77 has a BA in sociology, and she seems to be more equipped to answer this than I do....I did take a social research class with Soc majors but they did research on social issues and the criminal justice people did it on the criminals themselves....and the answers we got were all over the board that I came to the conclusion they did the crimes because of too many factors to just place it on one element. Although most of my classes dealt with criminals, we werent really focused on what the factors were that led them there, but the factors of the crime itself.

I took a few classes on juvenile justice and some of the answers that the kids gave varied....

I think you can still have all (or some) of those elements and have a kid turn out really well, and then you can have all (or some) of the elements and have the kid turn out really bad....so I think a big factor is with how stong or weak minded the juvenile is.

I think one major element that should be on your list is the school itself and how well they deal with bullys, etc...Do they let it go or do they ignore it and hope it goes away? I would like to think with all the school shootings and problems, they have become more attentive to the issues kids have in school....and with a 6 year old..I certainly hope so...

so...Ill let Anomaly take over from here...but if anyone has any particular questions regarding some of the issues...I still have my juvenile justice book, which might give some answers....though Im sure she has better material, and more up-dated material than I have.
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Posted by: mystic

Speaking of...today is the anniversay of the Columbine shootings.....

What a sad day that was!

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Posted by: Anomaly77

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mystic said this in post #4 :
Speaking of...today is the anniversay of the Columbine shootings.....

What a sad day that was!


April 20th 1999 - Columbine
March 5th 2001, another shooter, Charles Andrew Williams, caught the attention of the nation. For the first time really, people began to consider the emotional stress and pyschological abuse that this kid, and perhaps others, had been subjected to. "Andy's" story was one of constant abuse and torment at school, from the other kids; coupled with neglect at home. He had been moved across the country, stripped from his social-network, and dumped in this abusive and lonely environment. If you are not familiar with his story, you may want to read about him.

Now, I am certainly not justifing shooting people, only trying to understand. I reviewed my notes and unfortunately, my sources were very "sociological"...not really everyday reading material. SO, I don't have the reading suggestions that I thought I had. I can comment more on my theories...
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Posted by: Duckyone

Thats all I want to here, peoples theories... I have my own, But I'll post them after I recive more replys..

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Posted by: Anomaly77

For my study, I did a literature review of past research and I conducted a few personal interviews in order to illustrate some of the points, with actual stories.*

What I concluded was, there was a consistent element, that of isolation, or perceived isolation; a lack of social ties or "feeling part-of something". There is, for the most part, a strong desire or need for acceptance. Typically there was a lack of a bond with one or both parents. There was rejection from peers, which caused either the formation of a "new group" of "outsiders" bonding together or, a drifting effect...becoming a loner. Some turn to drugs or alcohol to cope. Some turn their depression, rage, negative feelings inward; attempt suicide. Others, turn it outward; school shootings, etc. Also common, these kids note having nobody they can talk to or trust.

*All participants in my study were over the age of 18...recalling their teen or high school years.

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