Anti war protesters border on treason. |
| Posted by: gdog | |
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Originally posted by marc1888
And George Washington was a terrorist... Your point please... |
That is so tired, so lame.
You're only like the 20th idiot to try to use this. All this does is illustrate the vastness of your ignorance. I could write a 500 page manifesto detailing the inumerable differences between the two.
But frankly, you're not worth the time.
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| Posted by: cable166 | |
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Originally posted by marc1888
And George Washington was a terrorist... Your point please... |
the people of the usa need to unite--apparently some of you people dont work for a union company..for example if there was a strike and you are a union or even non union and you try to cross a picket line you are basically risking your life.. the point is there are more people in the u.s. that are for this war than there are against it. so what is the point in protesting you are basically wasting your time and our law enforcements time when you rally. and if you decide to show up and there are enough people that are pro war you are taking a chance on getting the beating of a lifetime(that you basically deserve)
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| Posted by: Grimminick | | What a load of garbage. You can't go around accusing people of treason then not back it up with one legal case or rational argument to illustrate this. This article is just the mindless ramblings of someone who isn't capable of putting across a case at any level. Utter garbage! The more I read clips of your American press the more I realise just how down they are on freedom of speech. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: gdog | |
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Originally posted by Grimminick
What a load of garbage. You can't go around accusing people of treason then not back it up with one legal case or rational argument to illustrate this. This article is just the mindless ramblings of someone who isn't capable of putting across a case at any level. Utter garbage! The more I read clips of your American press the more I realise just how down they are on freedom of speech. |
I disagree, theres plenty of rational argument. What legal case are you talking about? This is obviously an opinion piece, I read no claims of lawlessness. This man seems very capable of putting his case across, as a former member of the state dept. and vice chairman of accuracy of media, he's not an idiot in a pink wig on the corner with a handmade sign. Funny how you throw around freedom of speech in regards to our country. You dont contribute to it, you dont help defend it, but you'll sure scream if you think its being used against a cause you deem worthy.
Author says "Borders on treason" not "Commits treason".
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| Posted by: Sean Kelly | | yeah, grimminick..
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Anti-war demonstrators can demonstrate legally and peacefully all they want when there is no war. However, when war starts, all Americans must unite behind the president and the troops so that the U.S. will not be hampered by these protesters creating negative, uninformed public opinion against the president, thereby harming the war effort of the troops. |
This is total 
First of all, the U.S. as a NATION is in no way "hampered" by negative public opinion. Has Bush slowed his response in the slightest as a result of negative opinions? Nope.
Second, there's a BIG difference between TREASON and FREE SPEECH. If you start calling free speech treason then you might as well burn the Constitution today and we can start all over.
Protesters may indeed be guilty of illegal activities such as disturbing the peace, being a public menace, disruption of traffic, or any of a number of other local ordinances and such, but TREASON? Ridiculous. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Sean Kelly | |
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Originally posted by gdog
Author says "Borders on treason" not "Commits treason". |
When it comes down to semantics like that, typical readers will make no differentiation. He likens protestors to treasonous villains and so treasonous villains they are. More than one person has made this statement on this board, even heard someone mention it on Bill O'Reilly recently before this article ever came along. You make an irresponsible allusion like this and people will jump all over it.
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Originally posted by gdog
You dont contribute to it, you dont help defend it, but you'll sure scream if you think its being used against a cause you deem worthy. |
Oh, and: absolutely. You don't need to contribute or defend to expect your rights to be upheld. Ensuring that our rights are protected is what the ACLU is here for so that the rest of us don't have to worry about idiots trying to take them away..
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| Posted by: Grimminick | | yeah, Sean Kelly.
For you other dodos the article is deliberately provocative. This guy can liken me to a number of things - why chose something as inflammatory as treason. You can disagree with my opinions all you like but don't dare question my allegiance to my country. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: grets | | hey sean, you can free speech yourself to death, but what you don't seem to grasp is, no one is listening, your marches and screaming become irrelevent when no one listens | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Sean Kelly | |
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Originally posted by grets
hey sean, you can free speech yourself to death, but what you don't seem to grasp is, no one is listening, your marches and screaming become irrelevent when no one listens |
.. what you don't seem to grasp is that I don't oppose this war. I don't march in the streets. Yet how can this be when at the same time I am interested in watching out for the rights of those who do wish to protest..? Baffling isn't it, that someone can support the war and yet enjoy the fact that we citizens have the rights to protest? I Celebrate freedom of speech whether or not I agree with what's being spoken. To view it otherwise defies the whole purpose of that Constitutionally protected right.
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| Posted by: marc1888 | |
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Originally posted by gdog
That is so tired, so lame.
You're only like the 20th idiot to try to use this. All this does is illustrate the vastness of your ignorance. I could write a 500 page manifesto detailing the inumerable differences between the two.
But frankly, you're not worth the time. |
Well start showing me your superior knowledge Gdog and write your 500 page paper. Before you do though answer me a little question... Did George Washington swear allegiance to his majestys crown take the kings shilling and VOLUNTEER to be the Aide de camp to General Braddock in 1755 in the regular British Army.
If your answer is no then you are wrong and should sue your history teacher...
If your answer is yes then under British (and Present American law i presume) he was a British soldier in a British colony who broke his oath to king and country and was therefore TREASONOUS... and if captured by the British would have been hung as such. One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter...
Personally i think the guy was great and legitimately did what he thought was right...
No need to reply... I know im right 
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