Video footage - horrifying

Israel & Palestine Forum

Ever wondered what it's like to have your house burned down by the brutal Israelis?

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/home_demolished_video_01_19_03.htm

Watch that video.

There is even a longer video of this, ill find it.

The sad thing is that, not every Israeli attack is captured on video, and if something does get captured it gets censored or they use the same old excuse of targeting terrorists.

We are so lucky to be living here in America. That’s why we shouldn’t be taking our freedom for granted. We get to live a somewhat peaceful life and not have our houses destroyed by bombs.

Be grateful that you dont have to live in fear of dying everyday, a thing that all Palestinians and most of the Israelis go through everyday.

Israel is so small everybody almost knows each other. When my Israeli friend hears about bombings he says that he has been to those places on some occasions. Everybody is affected by these bombings because everybody has had a friend or family member killed. If I remember, Israel’s quote is something like “we are all family” or something similar like that.

TWBR – you are right that we are very fortunate to live in America where we do not have to live in fear of your family’s life 24/7 and lots of people take it for granted. Americans like us should live out lives to the fullest because we have the freedom to do so. Why take things for granted in life?

all Palestinians and most of the Israelis

Do you really think 'palestinian' arabs are attacked more than israelis are?

P.S. Check out another video footage - if you find it - where IDF kicks jews our from settlements assigned to 'palestine' by the Road Map. Read thru the news, i believe an attack killing 20 israelis happened in a week or so.

I loaded the video clip in the hope of getting to see the above-mentioned scenes, but I was disappointed to see just a few spliced clips that can be interpreted in any number of ways if it were not for a guiding narration. The scene where the house gets burnt down by brutal Israelis must have been very short. I think I blinked and missed it.

Notice how the houses being demolished appear very old with absolutely no signs of recent occupation? I'd like to see some better footage than that please! And the short clip of an Israeli soldier - himself probably barely out of his teens - firing a weapon, is always a nice trick to show brutal Israelis shooting, under the ASSUMPTION that the targets are innocent palestinian kids throwing harmless pebbles.

If you are going to promote a clip, make sure its a good one at least! Some kind of objectivity wouldn't go amiss and definitely continuity to promote a more honest and believable view.

Thank you

I suppose a zionist like yourself probably twisted the whole footage around whilst watching the film. Pitiful.

And by the way, chodder, are you implying that the 5 million citizens of Israel all know each other? I think you're going a bit too over the top there.

I am not taking any side. The facts are that Israel keeps giving in to Arafat demands, but he won't declare peace.

It is very obvious that the most of the Islamic people want to see Israel gone--totally. They don't want a peaceful solution.

If not for Israel's military superiority. the Arab States would launch an all out attack to eliminate that country's people.

They massed on Israeli's borders once before and got beaten very badly.

I have no idea what the purpose of Terrorist indiscriminate killings will accomplish-except to play one country against another. If that isn't their plan, then their actions are ill-advised.

We can never wipe out terrorism unless all countries cooperate in their extinction. Think about it.

Do they think killing innocent people will bring The U S to their knees? What then?

antizionist lets begin with the land owners thru out the history. "Palestinians", aka arabs, living on today's Palestine's territory, never owned ANY PIECE OF THAT LAND. First it was owned by Turks, then Brits, UN gave some to Palestine and some to Israel, then Jordan and Egypt attacked Israel and Jews captured some of those lands.

Answer me: when did arabs living in today's "Palestine" own any land?

In 1896 following the appearance of anti-Semitism in Europe, Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism tried to find a political solution for the problem in his book, 'The Jewish State'. He advocated the creation of a Jewish state in Argentina or Palestine.

In 1897 the first Zionist Congress was held in Switzerland, which issued the Basle programme on the colonization of Palestine and the establishment of the World Zionist Organization (WZO).

In 1904 the Fourth Zionist Congress decided to establish a national home for Jews in Argentina.

In 1906 the Zionist congress decided the Jewish homeland should be Palestine.

In 1914 With the outbreak of World War I, Britain promised the independence of Arab lands under Ottoman rule, including Palestine, in return for Arab support against Turkey which had entered the war on the side of Germany.

1916 - Sykes-Picot Agreement
Britain and France signed the Sykes-Picot Agreement, which divided the Arab region into zones of influence. Lebanon and Syria were assigned to France, Jordan and Iraq to Britain and Palestine was to be internationalized.

1917 - Balfour Declaration
The British government therefore issued the Balfour Declaration on November 2, 1917, in the form of a letter to a British Zionist leader from the foreign secretary Arthur J. Balfour: “His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of the existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.
(This was the Palestinian's land before Israel was established in the 1940's. There are no two ways about it.)
1922 - A Mandate for Palestine
The Council of the League of Nations issued a Mandate for Palestine. The Mandate was in favor of the establishment for the Jewish people a homeland in Palestine.

1929 - The riots
In August 1929, the century's first large-scale attack on Jews by Arabs rocked Jerusalem. The riots, in which Palestinians killed 133 Jews and suffered 116 deaths. Mostly inflicted by British troops were sparked by a dispute over use of the Western Wall of Al-Aqsa Mosque ( this site is sacred to Muslims, but Jews claimed it is the remaining of jews temple all studies shows clearly that the wall is from the Islamic ages and it is part of al-Aqsa Mosque). But the roots of the violence lay deeper in Arab fears of the burgeoning Zionist movement , which aimed to make at least part of British-administered Palestine a Jewish state.

The British had made promises to both Arabs and Zionists. The 1917 Balfour Declaration supported the establishment of a "national home" for the Jews, while pledging that nothing would be done to " prejudice the civil and religious rights" of the Arabs. But the very presence of a Jewish homeland would, Arabs insisted, infringe on those rights.

1937 - The Peel Commission
Since the Balfour Declaration of 1917 (which endorsed the idea of a Jewish state within Palestine), the British government had been struggling to reconcile the conflicting aspirations of Jews and Arabs in Palestine, which Britain administered under a League of Nations mandate . Those who still believed in the possibility of peaceful coexistence between the two groups got a grim comeuppance in July 1937 when the Peel Commission, headed by Lord Robert Peel, issued its report. Basically, the commission concluded, the mandate in Palestine was unworkable There was no hope of any cooperative national entity there that included both Arabs and Jews, . The impetus for the commission's formation had been the most recent spark of Palestinian violence.Riots and Arab protests against the Jews in Palestine had been escalating throughout the 1920s and '30s. In the mid-1930s, in response to the thousands of Jews who'd arrived from Europe, Palestinian Arabs formed the Arab High Committee to defend themselves against what they perceived as a Jewish takeover A general strike exploded into a revolt. Desperate for a solution, the British appointed Lord Peel to study the situation. The Arab leadership boycotted the study.

After dismissing the possibility of Arab-Jewish amity, the commission went on to recommend the partition of Palestine into a Jewish state, an Arab state, and a neutral sacred site state to be administered by Britain. Within two years, Britain found itself in a no-win situation, and on the eve of World War II issued the infamous "White Paper" severely curtailing Jewish immigration into Palestine.

1947 - Great britain withdraw & the UN partition plan
Exhausted by seven years of war and eager to withdraw from overseas colonial commitments, Great Britain in 1947 decided to leave Palestine and called on the United Nations (UN) to make recommendations. In response, the UN convened its first special session in 1947, and on November 29, 1947, it adopted a plan calling for partition of Palestine into Jewish and Arab states, with Jerusalem as an international zone under UN jurisdiction; the Jewish and Arab states would be joined in an economic union. The partition resolution was endorsed by a vote of 33 to 13, supported by the United States and the Soviet Union. The British abstained.

1948 - First Arab-Israeli War
In Palestine, Arab protests against partition erupted in violence, with attacks on Jewish settlements in retaliation to the attacks of Jews terrorist groups to Arab Towns and villages and massacres in hundred against unarmed Palestinian in there homes , that soon led to a full-scale war. The British generally refused to intervene, intent on leaving the country no later than August 15, 1948, the date in the partition plan for termination of the mandate.

When it became clear that the British intended to leave by May 15, leaders of the Yishuv decided (as they claim) to implement that part of the partition plan calling for establishment of a Jewish state. In Tel Aviv on May 14 the Provisional State Council, formerly the National Council, “representing the Jewish people in Palestine and the World Zionist Movement,” proclaimed the “establishment of the Jewish State in Palestine, to be called Medinat Israel (the State of Israel) … open to the immigration of Jews from all the countries of their dispersion.”

On May 15 the armies of Egypt, Transjordan (now Jordan), Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq joined Palestinian and other Arab guerrillas who had been fighting Jewish forces since November 1947. The war now became an international conflict, the first Arab-Israeli War. The Arabs failed to prevent establishment of a Jewish state, and the war ended with four UN-arranged armistice agreements between Israel and Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, and Syria. The frontiers defined in the armistice agreements remained until they were altered by Israel's conquests during the Six Days War in 1967.

1948 - Israel founded
The population balance in the new state of Israel was drastically altered during the 1948 war. The armistice agreements extended the territory under Israel's control beyond the UN partition boundaries from approximately 15,500 to 20,700 sq km (about 6,000 to 8,000 sq mi). The small Gaza Strip on the Egypt-Israel border was left under Egyptian control, and the West Bank was controled by Jordan . Of the more than 800,000 Arabs who lived in Israeli held territory before 1948, only about 170,000 remained. The rest became refugees in the surrounding Arab countries, ending the Arab majority in the Jewish state.

Israel's Provisional State Council organized elections for the first Knesset (parliament) in 1949. Chaim Weizmann, the most prominent Zionist leader of the prewar period, became the country's first president.

A very good account of what happened, you are absolutely right it definitely was the Palestinian's land before 1948 no two ways about it. My only criticism is the bit where you said the Western Wall is clearly from the Islamic era is a lie. I have never heard anybody claim that before, the Wall has been standing there for 4000 years (archeological evidence supports this) the Muslims came in after ad built the Dome of the Rock and the Al-Aqsa Mosque. This is undisputed, and to claim otherwise is a lie.

My apologies, I agree with your assessment. This information was retrieved from a website and pasted here for educational purposes.

I know I have been on that website before, the facts were right but the article was obviously written by a Muslim who is a wishful thinker and wants to believe that it was theirs first.

chelktty is very good, very , very good!

What I find most disturbing is that so much blood is being spilled in an area that is considered so Holy to so many different people and religions. That is the last place that people should be suffering and losing their lives in.

At least your acknowledging that Palestinians exist, unlike some people do on this forum.