BREAKING NEWS.The French have entered the war

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Breaking News
It has been reported that the Brave French have at last joined the war.
It is now been confirmed that the 21St Company of Cowards have last night attacked a British War graves Cemetary in France with what can only be described as some form of colored spray.
I can report that there were no British casualties but I have been informed that at least 5 French Cowards broke there finger nails whilst removing the lids of there spray paint.


Reporting for Rotten News Agency Les Lock

Good one.

Always remember that going to war without the French is like going on a hunting trip without your accordian.

This is annoying.
How can you guys, sitting behind your screen, judge the French soldiers! Don´t you feel stupid? Or did you just stop thinking at all?

domingo

To be a soldier is no fvcking Playststion game.
How old are you? 12?

domingo

You repeat yourself.
That really doesn´t make me think different about your age! Child!

domingo

We must extend a certain measure of empathy to domingo... knowing the he hails from a nation of chicken doodies will probably take some time for his sorry bootie to get used to.

The desecration of the British (Called Rosbeefs) and Commonwealth war graves at Etaples in France includes the following:

"Rosbeefs go home... May Saddam prevail and spill your blood... dig up your dead, they are soiling our land."
"Death to the yanks."

Le Monde ran a poll which found that about 33% of the French respondents wanted Saddam to defeat "les anglo-saxons."

It will take some time to forget these things.

33% of ......... 948 people ......

this make the stat bulshit when you know that ~48,000,000 french have 15 or more years old .....

Do you know the repressions Germany had to pay for WWI and WWII?
They do not want to get involved in another war because of the cost, lives at stake - etc.

Goes to show how The liberal appeasement minded, morally bankrupt European governments have polluted the minds of its children with anti-Americanism and anti-coalition rhetoric. This is just a normal by-product of their policies. This is the "fruit" that they have helped ripen.

When de Gaulle demanded that President Johnson remove all US soldiers from French soil, Johnson agreed, but requested clarification if that meant the US soldiers buried in French soil as well...

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Charles
[B]Goes to show how The liberal appeasement minded, morally bankrupt European governments have polluted the minds of its children with anti-Americanism and anti-coalition rhetoric. This is just a normal by-product of their policies. This is the "fruit" that they have helped ripen.

Has polluted ???? Do you really think that the US goverment had nothing to do with it. After the 911 most of the people in the world backup US. So with in a year that support has gone. Why, because of the propanda of the european goverments?
I can assure to you, that during the Clinton time nothing like thatwoudn´t happened. Aks yourselves Why????

Clinton was a gutless draft dodging pot head - he would not have found the courage to stand up against Saddam or anyone else. He also walked out on the peace talks between Palestinians and Israel.

@suomi

Are YOU really so naive as to think that the major European powers are not in a geopolitical powerplay to bloody the nose of the USA and increase their prestige? Do you think their opposition is based on morals, or cynical self interest. European opposition has less to do with giving a **** about the Iraqi's and more to do with their own interest in thwarting the USA. Please...

Can you really justify their support of Saddam? That is what it is you know. They have the right to disagree with US policy, but they actively worked to oppose US policy. That is very significant.

Why do you think that the UNSC ultimatum should not be enforced? Please explain it to me.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Charles
[B]@suomi

Are YOU really so naive as to think that the major European powers are not in a geopolitical powerplay to bloody the nose of the USA and increase their prestige? Do you think their opposition is based on morals, or cynical self interest. European opposition has less to do with giving a **** about the Iraqi's and more to do with their own interest in thwarting the USA. Please...

Can you really justify their support of Saddam? That is what it is you know. They have the right to disagree with US policy, but they actively worked to oppose US policy. That is very significant.

Of course they have geopolitical aims and so have USA. But if you talk about the goverments have poisoned the minds of people, so explain to me why in Spain(belongs to coalition) ax. 90% are against this war. And again you think that if somebody is against Bush, he must support Saddam. In fact these countries wanted to continued WMD inspections in Iraq. And as far as i know that was the reason to this war or was it ?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DrPoke
[B]

On the subject of the French, what p1sses me off about them is that, whenever there is any civil unrest or they go on strike (quite frequently) they block the channel tunnel or port to try and f&uck up our workers and holiday makers at the same time - w&nkers.

Its called demoracy,you know.

the bottom line of all of your remarks against france and germany is we the usa was there for you when you were really needed but when you8 were asked to help us the usa you tucked your tails and ran. The problim here with france and germany is there is no loyality for those who have helped them and they dont want to give up what little trade they have with iraq. OIL oops that slipped......lol

OK Duntov. Maybe you tell me what Iraq has to do with 9/11. Bush tried (lied), but he couldn´t tell me.

domingo

I am for the death penalty only when it can be conclusively proven that the convicted person is TRULY the guilty person.

I think the technology is almost there. If there is any doubt, the death penalty is wrong.

I am in favor of death penalty not because of deterence, but because it seems to me to be immoral for society to spend its precious resources supporting people who are incapable of living within that society.

Sounds cold I know. But is it better to give these guys cable TV's and 3 squares, and everthing else at a cost of 100K per year when that money could benefit society if spent somewhere else?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DrPoke
I want no part of innocent people being sent to their deaths. Also having some murdering scum think about their crime for 30-40 yrs seems nicer than an easy eascape with a quick death.

If people want revenge, best way to do it is to send a guy in prison for 50 years...

keeping someone alive for 50 years that is 100 percent guilty of murder is a waste of money.

Why not just get rid of them if they are 100% guilty?

99% guilty isn't good enough. Must be 100%. But if its proven beyond a doubt, then get rid of them. I don't care about them. They don't cvare about their victims. I don't care if they are happy or sad and I don't care about revenge.

It makes more sense to buy a new telephone pole than to pay for some sick murderer/rapist to live in prison.

Forget about revenge Finn.

ajsjasjajs

i think your conversations are very exciting!!!!

I am european, i am agaiinst this war and i can't understand you al!!!

I respect charles, because he is the second pro war person i meet in this forums who defends his positions in a logic and scientific way..

th others....please, read more, play less play station, and inform yourself a little

spasibo

I am in favor of death penalty only if 100%.

In previous cases a person may have been convicted because jury thought he was guilty. That isn't enough.

Must be rock solid DNA or other evidence.

Then just get rid of them.

like i said when you were hurting and dieing we didnt debate you or say we dont beleive in your cause we just got in there got our job done and saved your butts. We didnt ask if it was right or wrong we did what had to be done. And dont hide behind right or wrong while you are dealing with iraq for oil and other things. The truth is out there. THE FRENCH ARE GUTLESS AND HIDEING BEHIND THE SKIRTS OF FREEDOM WHICH WAS GIVEN TO THEM BY THE BLOOD OF AMERICANS AND OTHERS. Your like a baby hideing behind mommas skirt and whineing and condemming us/uk who have and does still help you and liberated you from hitler. And you have the balls to say we are wrong. What about you all tradeing oil for weapons and tecknoligy and contraband to iraq. Your gonna point fingers look at all facts you guttless french.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Charles


Nie za shto, Charles

ya gabariu pa rusky y tbaia???

mtlivengatree, are you dumb or what????

vous êtes a petit peu bizarre. je ne vous comprenne pas, comment peut un americain étre d'une inculture si brutale??

Da govoryu - ya zhil shest let v moskve...

peut être, ce vous auriez de faire c'est vouyager un peut. Connaître l france et Paris, aves ses belle eglises, et l'alemagne, ou tout es vert et calme. Peut être ce que vous ne comprennez pas c'est que les européenes nos avons vecu plus guerres que vous, et plus intensement, et c'est pour ça que nous n'aimons la guerre.
Vous pouvez dire que nos sommes covardes, mais je croie, que en ce cas, nos ne sommes pas les covardes, nous avons contrarié l'empire, je ne croie pas que c'est la posture la plus covarde.

now you are sounding stupid finn

da?!?!?!?!
ya spansky ma ya studayu pa rusky. moy rusky ne jarasho!!!
ckashitie

So i am in infiltrate to this group...

jasjasj, sorry, i'm learning, may be in two months will sound better

jasjas, vpsu, where are you from (fin??)???

Up north here = Finland

Nu Kazak - tebye nuzhen praktika. Naiti sebye khoroshaya ruskaya devushka - i pust ona tebya uchit...

oeps charles, i'm sorry but i havent understand you completely....

no im not crazy, yes im a vet, and if you dont like what your country is doing talk to them. You dont like the truth to bad, you turned your back on the us and we didnt you. Your greedy and dont want to be involved because of what you got to loose. Makeing deals with a killer regine promoteing terrorism by supporting saddam. Whos crazy me or you

asjasjasj, if you had read a little, you would have seen that i'am spanish, not french!!!

yes, France will loose a lot on this war. Not in iraq, because the trade that they do with this country is insignificant ( more than a half of what americans do). But they will loose a lot in america. Because this administration will not accept such a posture, they think the alliances are like those of the soviet union, but is not like that. French have not approved this war because they are allies, not sclaves, and they think that this war is not justified.

Saddam hussein has no proved relations with al-qaeda
Un inspectors have found no proves that saddam conserves Mass destruction weapons.
This war is been done without proves, without international law permiting it.
It was decided years ago, not now, but now the pentagon falcons and thir corrupted friends have foun the oportunity to do it

US was the biggest supporter of this regime when it did the biggest masacres (against the kurds and the chiits) and they betrayed this last comunity after the riots of 1991. USA administration knew perfectly what would happen to the ciits of the south, but did nothing (no surprise that they hve not surrended and helped us forces)


please, be consequent, this war stinks and the posture of france is very valiant

I was also pretty furious about the desecration of the British war graves - I am willing to accept that this may have been the work of a small bunch of mindless idiots as the French government has stated.
What concerns me more is that in the same news report the following was reported: "Only 34% of the 946 people questioned said they were "on the side" of the US-led forces.

Just over 30% said they supported neither side. "

The remaining 36% were reported as "supporting Iraq". Please explain that one Mr Chirac - I'm waiting??

We should still lease a few strategic bases in Europe for rapid deployment and logistics - but there is absolutely no reason for tens of thousands of soldiers to be based in Europe?

They are not under threat of Soviet invasion. Why should they be there?

What are they accomplishing?

I agree that France ranks higher on the 'loathe' meter, but sentiment towards Germany isn't good either.


http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,252167,00.jpg

I'll give the Germans the benefit of the doubt for a while.

But the French...

are French.

They didn't just disagree as many apologists claim, they actively and efficiently pulled all the strings they could to OPPOSE the United States of America.

I think the French connection to Saddam is stronger than the Al Quada connection.

Luckily American's don't hold grudges for long - but I would like to see some movement on the French part - something very public -

I can honestly tell you not all of the soldiers share the opinion of the soldier pictured above. I have two very close friends in the 101st airborne, and neither of their companies feel animosity toward Germany. France is a different story.

Thought about it plenty.. Conclusion: don't know why and I don't particularly care at this point. Did you expect everyone to agree on everything all the time? They don't agree with the war, but I seriously doubt they'll turn their backs when it comes to the rebuilding of Iraq.

I can't help but find it rather cheesy that once we get Bagdhad surrounded, the German Chancellor, Gerhard Schroeder, all of a sudden 'changes his mind'.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/030403/2/rgpr.html


Some may be quick to forgive and forget, but rest assured their are many who aren't.

you are a revisionist to the worst degree! if you don't like your history, just re-write it- amazing! you'd be a very good liberal democrat in our country.

Bush is a moral man. He is a good man with true values. I will not accept critisism of him.

You must remember we are fighting for our God.

WE are FIGHTING for our GOD post #1 quote:

For Bush said unto his people:

"we will export death and violence to the four corners
of the earth in defence of this great country and rid the world of evil."

"the liberty we prize is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity."

And we will grant that gift onto them, that they might know our God and be released from their oppression.

As Bush said, those we fight are the "the forces of darkness" and they stand against the forces of light.

This is a war between good and evil.

The Day Of Reckoning has come!

Our leader has proclaimed it!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mi...ast/2623601.stm

For you know the Bible, Revelations of St. John the Divine? The day of reckoning? The rapture? The apocalypse? The last titanic battle between good and evil?

These things will come upon us with the fall of BABYLON. And our soldiers at this very moment march on BAGHDAD the BABYLON of old!

Sadam has the Weapons of Massed Destruction. He has the biological and chemical agents. He will unleash a plague upon this earth. Bush will order the city burned by nuclear fire!

http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/...8.8&version=NIV

Revelations 18:8 The Fall of Babylon

Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.


Whose side are you on? Will you stand with Bush and the forces of liberty and light? As Bush and our Lord Christ said ‘Those who do not stand with us: stand against us’

france screwed up and will pay for it for years to come for turning there backs on there allies. Plain and simple, you all can whine, cry and ***** but bottom line they should have backed there allies like they were backed in there time of need more than once. This is a mistake france will have to live with and hear of for years to come. no one to blame but themself and there own selfish reasons and needs.

dear Ireland,

betrayal is perhaps the nastiest of sins. It's something difficult to forget. I'm of Irish extraction, but I regret the Irish capacity to moralise about everyone but themselves. It's cheap and it's easy. When the chips are down I know who I'd like to see on my side - the Irish/French or the USA. That's why the Brits stick by them when they need a friend.