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| Posted by: oneofpeace | | And I ask what did Iraq do to make the world a safer place? We can see what it did to make it more dangerous.
Every nation that helped in invading Iraq can look forward to this happening now. And what do we have to show for it? No WMD, troops and citizens dying daily, deficits matching none in the history of this nation. And now a re-energized campaign to destroy human life all over the world.
And some of you actually think we're safer because we went of on a witch hunt half cocked without any proof. At this rate, we will be safer right out of existance, but I'm sure some of you will not see this as a problem either. After all, you don't see Bush's story falling apart as being a problem too.  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: asantana | | All the havoc in this world is because some people in the US think that they are above all mankind, so feeling safer in the US proved to bring disasters to other nations, so sad
So having the Al-Qaeda operating in Spain, should the war on terror starts in Spain??? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Advance | | Its interesting the Madrid bombings came 911 days after 9/11 attack. Cowinkidinkle? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Advance | |
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asantana said this in post #3 :
All the havoc in this world is because some people in the US think that they are above all mankind, |
Look, its the same anti-american feelings that the plane bombers felt when they drove planes into WTCs.
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| Posted by: asantana | |
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Advance said this in post #5 :
Look, its the same anti-american feelings that the plane bombers felt when they drove planes into WTCs. |
and it is the same anti-Muslim feeling you have
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| Posted by: Sayzak | |
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| And I ask what did Iraq do to make the world a safer place? We can see what it did to make it more dangerous. |
The actions by the terrorists are justifying that the invasion in the first place. Thanks for the article, this puts more focus on the war on terror. Basically the terrorists are saying "Allow us to continue terrorizing you, or we'll terrorize you." Hmm... It's too bad some people would prefer the former.
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| Every nation that helped in invading Iraq can look forward to this happening now. And what do we have to show for it? No WMD, troops and citizens dying daily, deficits matching none in the history of this nation. And now a re-energized campaign to destroy human life all over the world. |
I feel sick after reading this. Do you seriousely believe that every non-terrorist supporting nation gathering it's forces against terrorists is a lost cause? Do you think the majority (good guys) can not defiet the minority (bad guys)? I hope other nations jump on the "bring 'em on" bandwagon, and pump their fists a little bit. If anything, these events should be re-energizing the world's campaign for freedom from terrorism, not appeasement.
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| And some of you actually think we're safer because we went of on a witch hunt half cocked without any proof. At this rate, we will be safer right out of existance, but I'm sure some of you will not see this as a problem either. After all, you don't see Bush's story falling apart as being a problem too. |
We're in the middle of a war. What you're asking is for is terrorism to stop dead in it's tracks instantly. It seems to me that you either lack an understanding of the fundimentals of war, or you're willing to overlook them to push your political agenda.
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| Posted by: Advance | |
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asantana said this in post #6 :
and it is the same anti-Muslim feeling you have |
I have no anti-feelings to any ethical or racial group of people AT ALL.
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| Posted by: Sayzak | |
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| All the havoc in this world is because some people in the US think that they are above all mankind, so feeling safer in the US proved to bring disasters to other nations, so sad |
How old are you? "all the havok in the world" started before the United States came into exsistance.
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| So having the Al-Qaeda operating in Spain, should the war on terror starts in Spain??? |
No, the war on terror started in the United States, and it will be fought everywhere until the job is done.
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| Posted by: Larke2000 | |
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| The tape claims the bombings were in response to Spanish cooperation with Bush and their allies. |
well that's interesting. i though the U.S. acted alone? unilaterally? hmmm... interesting.
kerry said the U.S. acted alone. i guess he'll have to apologize to spain before he gets another endorsement from a foreign leader.
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| Posted by: oneofpeace | |
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Advance wrote
The actions by the terrorists are justifying that the invasion in the first place. Thanks for the article, this puts more focus on the war on terror. Basically the terrorists are saying "Allow us to continue terrorizing you, or we'll terrorize you." Hmm... It's too bad some people would prefer the former. |
Obviously you’re are still under the delusion that the invasion in Iraq has something to do with terrorism. Despite all the evidence that supports other reasons, you’re continued perpetual blind faith in the otherwise is astonishing.
I find if so funny that people can continue to believe this administration. Despite Bush calling for an investigation himself (with results only to be given after the election), you still hold your faith in such a proven defect.
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| I feel sick after reading this. Do you seriousely believe that every non-terrorist supporting nation gathering it's forces against terrorists is a lost cause |
Either you misunderstand or you’re misrepresenting. I think the former because somehow in your mind you cannot fathom the possibility that Iraq was something else other than “fighting terror”.
If you don’t think that the other nations that signed on with the US are now concerned, then you are further detached from reality that I thought. I find it funny how you can “feel sick” at what is obvious a risk now in other countries and yet feel at ease that no WMD were found when we insisted they were there.
Talk about mixed up priorities.
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| We're in the middle of a war. What you're asking is for is terrorism to stop dead in it's tracks instantly. It seems to me that you either lack an understanding of the fundimentals of war, or you're willing to overlook them to push your political agenda. |
Advance open your eyes man. When was the last time you heard of an attack in Spain by Al Qaeda? Why can’t you and others like you let it sink in that because people don’t agree with Iraq they want to sit by and do nothing? Talk about tunnel vision.
You say I lack the fundamentals of war. I say you lack the fundamentals of your own 5 senses, or at least 2 of them. You hear and see other things taking place right before your very eyes. You hear Bush lay blame and find nothing. You see him pass an $87 billion then give Dick Chaney’s Halliburton the contract (without any public bid might I add). We all know how crooked they are with their bribes and scandals now surfacing. This after the Bush was warned of their shady financial practices. We guard nothing in Iraq but our barracks and the Ministry of Oil building and watch their culture and artifacts get pilfered and looted from their museums and not lift a finger to stop it.
I could go on but what’s the use? You still will hold blindly to your faith that Iraq was about terrorism and not about US personal gains.
I’m all for fighting terrorism, when that’s what we’re doing. What I’m not for is this lying then whitewashing of the truth once it comes to light that things aren’t adding up as they presented them.
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| Posted by: Curley Joe | |
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asantana said this in post #3 :
All the havoc in this world is because some people in the US think that they are above all mankind... |
"Of course it is, it's always America's fault! No matter what the trouble in the world, it's America one should blame." What a bunch of pathetic, embittered malcontents you are. asantana, you deserve to reside in that part of the world into which you are compelled to wallow in your political misery. oneofpeace, of course, revels in his own self-loathing role as a bitter, "victimized" AMERICAN. 
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| Posted by: asantana | |
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Curley Joe said this in post #12 :
"Of course it is, it's always America's fault! No matter what the trouble in the world, it's America one should blame." What a bunch of pathetic, embittered malcontents you are. asantana, you deserve to reside in that part of the world into which you are compelled to wallow in your political misery. oneofpeace, of course, revels in his own self-loathing role as a bitter, "victimized" AMERICAN. |
I thought that you said  !!
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| Posted by: Curley Joe | |
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Sayzak said this in post #9 :
No, the war on terror started in the United States, and it will be fought everywhere until the job is done. |
Fortunately, Bush was president when 9/11 was unleashed upon America. The attacks were planned during Clinton's administration — I don't think bin Laden, along with any terror-supporting regime, had any IDEA what they were in for. Well, President Bush has made sure that they will never forget! The jihadis figured America would do what Clinton did: bomb a couple of training camps in Afghanistan and turn tail and run. The all-talk, no-action days are OVER. The Iraq "war" was really the BATTLE for Iraq in a war that will be waged for many years to come. (Well, as long as we have a Republican President, anyway.) 
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| Posted by: Advance | | What would Clinton of done?
Simple. The same as the other times.
"...the first bombing of the WTC took place in 1993 and Bill Clinton did not do anything and stayed complicit.
...when two bombs detroyed two US Embassies in Africa and killed hundreds and Bill Clinton did nothing?
...when the US Cole was attacked and 17 US sailors were killed and Bill Clinton did nothing except talk?
...when 18 American soldiers were killed in Mogadishus, Somalia, and their bodies dragged through the streets? Bill Clinton retreated and did nothing" | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Sayzak | |
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| Either you misunderstand or you’re misrepresenting. I think the former because somehow in your mind you cannot fathom the possibility that Iraq was something else other than “fighting terror”. |
If it wasn't part of the war on terror, what was it?
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| If you don’t think that the other nations that signed on with the US are now concerned, then you are further detached from reality that I thought. |
If you think they weren't concerned to begin with you're the one totally detatched from reality. By the way, you're running out of clever ways to call me delusional, I've already heard that one.
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I find it funny how you can “feel sick” at what is obvious a risk now in other countries and yet feel at ease that no WMD were found when we insisted they were there.
Talk about mixed up priorities. |
...Obviousely a risk now? Terrorism isn't aimed soley at the United States, it enver was. To see a more in depth response to this statement, look here: http://www.inreview.com/showthread....er=2&forumid=13
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Advance open your eyes man. When was the last time you heard of an attack in Spain by Al Qaeda? Why can’t you and others like you let it sink in that because people don’t agree with Iraq they want to sit by and do nothing? Talk about tunnel vision.
You say I lack the fundamentals of war. I say you lack the fundamentals of your own 5 senses, or at least 2 of them. You hear and see other things taking place right before your very eyes. You hear Bush lay blame and find nothing. You see him pass an $87 billion then give Dick Chaney’s Halliburton the contract (without any public bid might I add). We all know how crooked they are with their bribes and scandals now surfacing. This after the Bush was warned of their shady financial practices. We guard nothing in Iraq but our barracks and the Ministry of Oil building and watch their culture and artifacts get pilfered and looted from their museums and not lift a finger to stop it.
I could go on but what’s the use? You still will hold blindly to your faith that Iraq was about terrorism and not about US personal gains.
I’m all for fighting terrorism, when that’s what we’re doing. What I’m not for is this lying then whitewashing of the truth once it comes to light that things aren’t adding up as they presented them. |
You responded to the wrong guy you quoted, man. I said that, not advance. And you think we're lacking our senses...
Want proof I use all of my senses and that I'm not blind? Check out that link up there. Here's I'll even post it again for you. http://www.inreview.com/showthread....er=2&forumid=13
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| Posted by: oneofpeace | | So because I got the author wrong this proves my insight it wrong as well? After reading so many post, many of you war supporters sound alike. I did this from memory and unfortunately I got the author wrong not the ideas behind it as you seem to subscibe to many of his positions.
You aske me this.."If it wasn't part of the war on terror, what was it?" I ask you what part of terrorism did invading Iraq disturb? It's quite obvious that Al Qaeda had little to nothing to do with Iraq and the country that mostly benefited from Saddam's deposition is Israel terrorism wise.
We benefited monetarily from this invasion on many fronts. The proof is there before your eyes yet you reject it in favor of redefining foundations for the war. You personally may justify this war on moral grounds, but the US cannot take this stance legitimately being that we turn blind eyes to other countries that are currently inhumane to their inhabitants.
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Terrorism isn't aimed soley at the United States, it enver was.
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So if it never was, why are just now getting into the ring and expect every country on earth to simply go along with it? So by these words it would seem you subscribe to the invasion as a war on terrorism not on America, but on the world?
Why not do anything about the terrorism in other countries like Russia, Spain, Britian, just to name a few. Why now jump into the ring because of 9/11?
The more I read your reasons for supporting the war, the more I see they differ from Bush's assertions. You support it on moral reasons. I don't see how you can believe that the US can justify it on those grounds. In fact, legally they can't. This is why Bush is in the jam he's in today because he had to come up with something, and his story has more holes in it than Swiss cheese. | | Reply To this Message
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