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J.R.R. Tolkien Forum

Here is a question I would like answered,

How is Bard the Bowman related to the king of Dale (I've forgotten the name, Girion or something) before Smaug came?

could someone please tell me because I dont know.

He is a descendant. That is all that is said of the relation, I believe.

Thank you. Although I would have liked to have known the exact relation he was, you know Grandson or great-grandson and so on and so forth, but if that is all that is said I cant really find out, I'd just have to guess.

Anyway here's another question for you, what happened to Elladan and Elrohir after the Return of the King? did they go to Valinor with their father or did they stay in Middle-Earth?

They stayed in Middle Earth for a few more years before going to Valinor.

I'm learning new things every day.

Ok another question, How is Dain Ironfoot related to Thorin Oakenshield? I know that their cousins but is Dain Thrain's nephew or Thror's nephew or whatever?

I don't think it is ever really clearly said. It's been awhile since I read the Hobbit though. Have you checked the Encyclopedia of Arda?

Unfortunatly I don't have the Encyclopidia of arda, but thanks for trying anyway.

Lets see if I can't think up another one...em...OK here go.

How did Thror and Thrain die?

i think Thror died in Moria, and Thrain died in Dol Guldor. or vice versa... i get those 2 mixed up...one was Thorins dad, the other his grandad right?

Tiger, the Encyclopedia of Arda is online

www.glyphweb.com/arda

I did not know that the Encylopidia of Arda was online, I'll have a look later. Thanks for that Heather.

and for Shadow stalker:

Thror, Thorin's Grandfather, was kill by Azog the Great Goblin in Moria which led to the 100 year war of Dwarves and Orcs.

Thrain, Thorin's father, was tortured in Dol Guldor by didn't die there, he died a "Wandering witless fool" in Mirkwood, he couldn't even remember his own name he only remembered the Map to Erebor (Lonely Mountain) and the Key.

Here's another one,

Who killed Azog the Great Goblin of Moria in the war of Dwarves and Orcs?

I have found out that Dain Ironfoot or Dain II is the nephew of Thror and is the youngest son of Dain I he is younger than Thorin however.

I would like to thank Heather again for telling me about the encylopidia of Arda so I found this out.

I have been getting my facts wrong. The dwarven war with orcs was just 10 years not 100. However it is a commom mistake that people make that Thrain died n Dol Guldur but as I said he didn't.

Wow, you are the dwarf knowledge master!

You and Nathan can tag team us with information.

Yea you sure do know alot about Dwarves Tiger!

It's my hobby. Some people like Elves, some Hobbits, some Istari (or wizards) and some men but I like dwarves.

It came out wrong.

I know what you meant Tiger!

Good, I'm glad someone understood it.

Here is a question I would like answering. Was Beren and Luthiens tale supposed to be Tolkiens Romeo and Juliete?