Here's a 15 minute video.

Israel & Palestine Forum

Deals with Arafat, and his effect on the Palestinian children.

http://s88895045.onlinehome.us/IsraelInDanger2.rm

Enjoy.

Not working for me Merk. What kind of media player are you using for this?

Real player.

Get it free here:

http://www.real.com/R/RC.022604rpch...ice_1_3_2_1_8_1

Im watching it now, Arafat is still not worse than Sharon...., ill finish it and get back

As long as the Palestinian kids arent taught to be suicide bombers theres nothing wrong with teaching your kids about the land's terrible history.

Merk this is indeed disturbing here. This is why hate continues in that land and peace cannot take hold there. It's almost cultish in nature and to bring up kids with such hate is atrocious.

After viewing this, I don't give peace much hope in that land.

Your going to say that based on a video? I suggest you worry more about whats happening right now and not rely on a video like that.
It is true that the video is for the Palestinians kids to be martyrs, and i think that is wrong, but Palestinians are going to fight for thier land until they get their human rights, and if they have to blow them selves up, which is not the best thing they can do to get their freedom, they are going to continue until they get a good representative, and not that lazy ******* of Arafat.

I say this not based on this video alone TWBR. I just viewed one of your videos in one of your other threads and I thought the same thing about them breaking the Palestinian's arm. It's just that I think you reflect some exteme view points about what's happening in that region and you appear to lay blame soley on Israel's shoulders for it.

You start off with a I know, then you always say but. What I'm trying to point out TW is that people are going to remember everything after the but because that is the focus of your point. Just read your posts after the but as though nothing before it exist, then you will see exactly the message you are portraying.

I think (with the exception of this video) that in when you present a picture or clip about Israel beating a Palestinian, or of Palestinian's throwing rocks, it only shows half the picture. I think that mentalities of Palestinian leaders are directly responsible for continued strife and degredation for their people.

There is no reason what so ever in the 21st century that this problem should still exist had Palestinians had better leadership. This clip is disturbing and is self defeating in my opinion. There has to be a change of direction if you want change for your people. Obviously the path being taken is counter-productive to the Palestinian plight.

I want for them to have peace and prosperity, but pointing fingers everywhere else is not going to solve the issues there in Palestine land.

Ok

I personally believe that the government brainwashes its people. When you are born and raised into a society of hate and crime you think it is right. No body is there to educate you and say, "Hey that’s wrong" the government encourages this thought. An environment shapes and molds a person. I may be wrong and if I am please say why. I am interested in what people think about this.

The Palestinian government does try to brainwash the Palestinian kids into thinking that being a mertyr is better than Peace, but, i wasnt raised like that, many arabs in the world arent raised like this, and the Government is mostly to blame for this.
But preparing your kids with guns and to be ready for combat is nothing wrong in Palestine, every kid must be able to protect its self, from any Israeli attack.

I completely understand. Living in such a hostile environment calls for some hostile reactions It is always good knowledge to know how to protect ones self when the time calls for it. Some people have to remember that they can only use their skills of weaponry for good and not bad.

Maybe they should train the MEN to take up arms and root out terrorist orgs like Bregade and Hamas. Maybe then, they'd have a better chance and peace and freedom.

Putting guns in the hands of children is not the way to go. To name a couple reasons, first teaching children such hate then putting guns in their hands will inevitably lead to a hateful act. Not 100% of the time, but it will. Secondly, when Israel returns fire and kills these children, then what? Palestinians will have them on the news laying in the streets saying Israel killed their children for nothing.

There is more going on there than just teaching them protection. To think so is a bit naive I think. The steps to real peace has to start for Palestinians with the dismantling of Hamas and orgs like it. Until that happens, I don't think peace will ever have a chance.