Israel Beats 50 Palestinians

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Palestinians beaten for resisting barrier

Tuesday 24 February 2004, 22:46 Makka Time, 19:46 GMT

Five Palestinians protesting the barrier works were detained

Israeli occupation forces have wounded at least 50 Palestinians protesting against an expansion of the controversial separation barrier as the World Court held a second day of hearings on the issue.

The confrontation in the West Bank village of Bait Sira with Israel followed a day of protests along the barrier which soldiers quelled with teargas in some instances.

Witnesses said Palestinian farmers and supporters in Bait Surik tried to prevent army bulldozers from razing an olive grove to make way for a new section of razor-tipped fence.

Bait Surik's mayor Muhammad Qundial, said more than 50 residents were injured, including elderly persons.

Israeli police spokesman Gil Kleiman said security forces used stun grenades and teargas to disperse the crowd.

Three policemen were slightly hurt and five Palestinians and one Israeli were arrested, Kleiman said.

Around 100 villagers tried to stop two bulldozers by lying down in front of them but they were dispered by Israeli border police who used sound grenades and beat them with sticks, an AFP reporter witnessed.

Israeli soldiers also hit some of the protestors with the butt of their assault rifles, and several suffered head wounds.

Olive trees razed

Under heavy army protection, the bulldozers razed a 150 metre row of olive trees to draw the path for the barrier.

"The bulldozers are still tearing up the land, it's a dark day for Beit Surik," the mayor said.


A Palestinian woman protests as
bulldozer opens path on her land

"We were caught by surprise when the bulldozers came this morning," he said, adding 60 hectares (150 acres) of Beit Surik's most fertile land would be caught on Israel's side of the fence.

"We are known in the whole West Bank for growing the juciest peaches and now we will be deprived of our peach trees and of our olive trees," he said in an emotional voice.

The work in Beit Surik also started as Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon was quoted by Yediot Aharonot newspaper as saying he would complete "his security fence" regardless of the opinion of the ICJ.

"We will not surrender. I will build the security fence and will complete it, as the cabinet decided," he said.

Most expensive project

He also slammed the ICJ hearings, held at the behest of the UN General Assembly, saying, "what is in motion at The Hague is an attempt to deny Israel the fundamental right to defend itself."


Israeli forces used butts of their
guns to hit some protesters

Israel's army radio said the Beit Surik section of the fence was being built as part of a larger 96km stretch between the Elkana Jewish settlement and the Ofer detention camp in the northwestern West Bank.

It also quoted army officials as saying a total of 200kms of barrier would be built by the end of the year, including the section that surrounds Jerusalem.

Some 180 kms have been built since construction started in June 2002 and the barrier, which is to run on 730kms, is planned to be completed by the end of next year.

At an estimated cost of $3.4 billion, it is Israel's most expensive project ever.

Annexation intended

Israel says the bulwark of fences and walls, which runs 180km so far and is to stretch over 700km is a stopgap security measure intended to keep out Palestinian bombers in the absence of peace talks.

"We are known in the whole West Bank for growing the juciest peaches and now we will be deprived of our peach trees and of our olive trees"

Muhammad Qundial,
Mayor, Bait Surik

Palestinians say the barrier, by snaking well into the West Bank and taking in Jewish settlements, is intended to annex territory that Israel occupied in a 1967 war, but which they claim for a viable state under a US-backed peace plan.

Monday's protests were staged as part of a Palestinian "Day of Rage" coinciding with the start of the World Court hearing in The Hague into whether the barrier is illegal and should be torn down, as argued by the Palestinians.

Israel boycotted the hearing, contending the barrier is a security issue beyond the court's jurisdiction.

Israel does a really good job on treating the Palestinians good and trying to have peace with them....

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/rdonlyres/D7D2BF36-7905-4A87-AF77-0CCAED397A40/29439/EC588C888D08411DA2EECFE7D9831EF5.jpg


http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/rdonlyres/D7D2BF36-7905-4A87-AF77-0CCAED397A40/29460/963D008B278D4DB3BE5ECC5CAFDE8E69.jpg

Teargas huh? How about the butts of their guns

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/rdonlyres/D7D2BF36-7905-4A87-AF77-0CCAED397A40/29459/2A8DF4528FF44064B7DD3EA6DA98FBC7.jpg

Link - Should be on Haaretz Daily and BBC soon.....

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exe...CCAED397A40.htm

Wheres everybody at? Reply

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/02/25/israel_bank040225

Exaggerate numbers much?

LMAO, thats a freking raid that they did, what does that have to do with this? Either your retarted or you didnt bother to read my link. You really need to focus on the subject and not go out and give me crap.

Nope, that was during a raid, the one i posted was about hundreds of Palestinians resisting the barrier, 50 got attacked by the Israeli soldiers.

Thats right, so Israel wants peace and treats the Palestinians as Humans?

Lol tell that to a Palestinian and he'll probably kill you.

Or as Golda Meir would say:

"Oh wait, TWBR, i forgot, your a so-called "Palestinian" yourself aren't you? Oh wait, sorry, there's no such thing as a "Palestinian."

Boy do you know how to twist the facts.

The term "Palestinian" did not exist until a couple of years after the 1967 war. Up until then, Gaza strip arabs were known as Egyptians, and West Bank arabs were known as Jordanians.

That's the whole point Golda was trying to make. And if you look up the quote date, I believe it was around 1967.

Here's another nice quote from Golda Meir:

"There will be peace in the Middle East when the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jews"

Of course the term "Palestinian" existed. What do you think the people who lived in Palestine were called? What would have been on their passport, what nationality were they?? Palestininish? Palestinine? No - Palestinian.

Thought so. As if you could actually think of it yourself.

In fact, it seems all of your so-called "facts" are from the same two or three zionist website.

Palestinians should be returned their land, the land they had been living in for 2000 years until the ungrateful Zionists came in and took it off them.

Well not really, Arabs have been living there for 2000 years, Palestine was created in the early 1900s, so there came the Palestinians, and no it did not come from the 1960s like most ignorant people say, people who say that Palestine never exsisted or there is no such things as Palestinians will never be taken seriously.

Palestine has never existed as a sovereign state or country.

It's a simple fact, TWBR. Prove me wrong.

I wasn't talking about the encyclopedia, I meant all the **** websites you use to back up those claims of yours.

If you read my original post, ********, you'd see I never called the encyclopedia biased in the first place:

"Thought so. As if you could actually think of them yourself."

By this, I am pointing out that you never seem to be able to think about things yourself, always using website information.

Then I say that all your facts seem to be from the same 2 or 3 websites. This is a comment spaced out from the last one, in a new paragraph, and is indicating a new subject.

FOOL....

The people that lived in PALESTINe were called PALESTINians. Get over it.

Gee...a lot of time passed since last time I posted on this forum.
Many new people came here...

I'm quite surprised to read a statement about that part of the barrier and Bait-Sira because that's exactly where I've been at the time of the incident. However, I was disappointed of the Palestinian-sides version of the story and the pictures shown here. It's as if the reporters chose those pictures out of all, in order to make the story emotional and interesting. But then more common pics, showing what more or less happened, would have been too boring for the papers...

The demonstration followed Israel's plan to demolish Olive trees near Bait-Sira in order to build the fence. Soldiers and Police Border guards were protecting the works (the olive trees weren't bulldozed that day. the bulldozer laid down a path of sand and rocks) As in previous days, some Palestinians came to the area in order to protest to the works. At that day, like in some other days later on, the protest became violent as Palestinians started throwing rocks at the bulldozer and at the soldiers. (In one of the demonstrations, children were mostly in the front, throwing stones to only half the distance to the soldiers. They seemed to do that out of fun, not out of rage. The elder men threw stones as well.) The soldiers responded in throwing several shock grenades to the middle of the crowd. Some Palestinians were injured from the explosion itself. Then both sides confronted each other - Palestinians with fists, Border police guards with sticks. After some time, the demonstration was dispersed.

It is known that Border police guards have a very aggresive stance against Palestinian violators, but it seems to be an effective way to prevent and disperse demonstrators and make sure the works don't interrupt. That kind of method is used in many countries around the world, the only difference is that in that case - it's non-national demonstrators. Israeli police acts the same way if Israeli demonstrators use violence to achieve their goal. They'd end up beaten up, restrained and arrested. The press would take the most extremal pictures of bleeding beaten civilians to draw attention of its readers.

...one thing I do not understand is why couldn't they build the fence a few meters to the west, where the road is, where there won't be any need to demolish trees and farmland. It would definitely solve the whole conflict in the region, but perhaps due to security reasons it is necessary to build it where they do.

I don't know about solving the whole conflict, but it certainly would give Israel better footing in making its case for the wall.

What I don't get is why do parents put their children in situations like this? They know that violence is probable and so is death. They even have the children engaging in it.

Right or wrong, I would never have my child in the middle of that chaos. I'm sure there are many Palestinian parents that wouldn't do that too. I love my child to much to put her in a precarious situation such as that.

Well said TWBR, people who say Palestinians don't exist are either racist or very misinformed.

Anti-Jihad, i hope you know the real meaning of Jihad, its not Terrorism.

Right you are again, TWBR, Jihad literally means "striving" and there is Jihad of the heart, soul, and yes the sword. But the qu'ran says that this must only be in self-defense. Therefore Anti-Jihad you are completely mistaken.

Thanks

It's just such a shame people are so misinformed about Judaism's closest religion.

Very true.

Yes, Jihad doesn't refer only to the holy muslim war that theoretically started in 1979, but why did you steer off the subject all so sudden?

but if you did, then let me continue:

Anti-Zionist, I hope you know the real meaning of Zionism, it's not Terrorism.

ROLF ^