Pictures of Jenin

Israel & Palestine Forum

Here are pictures of the aftermath of the Jenin Camp, let the pictures do the talking.

http://www.aljazeera.net/mritems/images/2002/4/16/1_91650_1_6.jpg

http://www.aljazeera.net/mritems/images/2002/4/16/1_91651_1_6.jpg

http://www.aljazeera.net/mritems/images/2002/4/16/1_91663_1_6.jpg

http://www.aljazeera.net/mritems/images/2002/4/16/1_91662_1_6.jpg

http://www.aljazeera.net/mritems/images/2002/4/15/1_91613_1_6.jpg

http://www.aljazeera.net/mritems/images/2002/4/15/1_91610_1_6.jpg

No Tanks? Give me a break! http://www.aljazeera.net/mritems/images/2002/4/13/1_91368_1_6.jpg

http://www.aljazeera.net/mritems/images/2002/4/13/1_91372_1_6.jpg

http://www.aljazeera.net/mritems/images/2002/4/13/1_91373_1_6.jpg

http://www.aljazeera.net/mritems/images/2002/4/13/1_91382_1_6.jpg

http://www.aljazeera.net/mritems/images/2002/4/14/1_91512_1_6.jpg

Israeli soldiers celebrating the death of a civilian, looks like a kid from this view.

http://www.nilemedia.com/images/picts/israeli_trophy.gif

Thats not Jenin but i remember Merkava saying that he wants me to show him, Israelis celebrating a palestinian death.

Believe me, when I hear a Palestinian suicide bomber's belt went off prematurely before he could reach his victims, I start break dancing.

And those are not battle tanks. They just transfer soilders.

Those are APCs (Armored Personel Carrier). They are not even close to tanks.

If it was somebody brave enough to resist the Israeli forces, then I don't supposed he 'deserved' to live - by your logic anyway merkava.

Hey Hey, where is this going? You guys still deny that there wasnt any tanks or helicopters in Jenin? well come here http://www.jeninjenin.org/massacre.htm

Is that like your favorite website next to aljazeera?

TW how can you expect us to take this as credible when it's dedicated to proving it was a massacre?

Because thats the whole point, me and AZ belive that a massacre did take place in Jenin.

Well I don't believe you two will believe anything different now would ya? Imagine if I posted contradicting info from a site that was israelisrael.com? How would you feel about it's credibility?

TWBR's pictures add even more evidence to the Jenin massacre, which so many Zionists try and say never happened. In my opinion, this can be likened to Holocaust denial.

You compare Jenin to the Holocaust? Amazing you can do that. Jenin was no holocaust and in my opinion the only ones saying it was a massacre are Palestinians and Arabs.

I believe Israel raided those camps. They raided because a few days earlier their soldiers were ambushed killing 13 of them along with a wave of suicide bombings. Those camps were notorious for being the base of terrorism and there was a fight with Palestinian fighters in that camp.

To simply blame Israel for all the carnage left there is not balanced opinion in mine. They didn't simply wake up one day and decide they will go bomb a kill a few innocent civilians in Jenin that day. It's like you two, especially TW is totally oblivous to why such things happen over there the way they do. TW totally blames Israel for everything, even suicide bombings.

As to date, I can't say with out any certainty that a massacre never occurred, but I'm doubtful it happened that way, especially since the body count from day one by Palestinians were so grossly over-exaggerated.

You compare Jenin to the Holocaust? Amazing you can do that. Jenin was no holocaust and in my opinion the only ones saying it was a massacre are Palestinians and Arabs.

Wrong, this makes me belive more that you never tried to see the Jenin Web site i gave you, there are tons of non-Arab articles claiming that there was a Massacre.

I believe Israel raided those camps. They raided because a few days earlier their soldiers were ambushed killing 13 of them along with a wave of suicide bombings. Those camps were notorious for being the base of terrorism and there was a fight with Palestinian fighters in that camp.

A fight that gave Israel a chance to do their daily job, kill Palestinian civilians. ALSO, Israel brought in Tanks and Helicopters, a battle? I seriously doubt it, it was an attack.

To simply blame Israel for all the carnage left there is not balanced opinion in mine. They didn't simply wake up one day and decide they will go bomb a kill a few innocent civilians in Jenin that day. It's like you two, especially TW is totally oblivous to why such things happen over there the way they do. TW totally blames Israel for everything, even suicide bombings.

Im aware of that, but just like you say, NOTHING can justify the suicide bombings, im gonna say NOTHING can justify the unlawful killings of the Palestinians

As to date, I can't say with out any certainty that a massacre never occurred, but I'm doubtful it happened that way, especially since the body count from day one by Palestinians were so grossly over-exaggerated.

The only claim was that 500 Palestinians were killed, mainly because the Palestinian civilians couldnt find their relatives for a period of time, also, Israel didnt let the UN and Human Rights Group to investigate for several days, You never know what could have happened, im not saying that it did happen, but Israel could have hidden Palestinian bodies.

Of course its no holocaust, I'm saying that the principle of denying killings apply.

TW you cannot have terrorists strikes on Israel without retaliation expected. If those terrorists weren't based in Jenin, then that battle wouldn't have taken place there. This is something I think you miss.

Initially tanks and helicopters weren't used. I heard this from both sides. It's like you and anti zion call Israel liars whenever they give their account of what has happened but then accept it was a massacre. The only massacre were the fighters that fought with Israel's army that entered Jenin first on foot.

There were civilians killed in the violence unfortunately, but to blame Israel soley for their deaths well, that isn't being realistic in my opinion.

Antizion everytime there's an incursion in Palestine, they claim its a massacre or Israel just came in and shot civilians in the streets for no reason. If Israel goes into Jenin today and rid them of bomb making laborotories, they will say it was a massacre.

They are militarily overpowered. I guess to them, it would appear as a massacre, even when they are fighting with guns themselves.

Guns are nothing to the Israeli American-paid for weaponry!

Antizion Arabs sided with Communist Soviet Union. They were supplying them with weapons long before America was supplying Israel with them and the outcome has still been the same.

Israel in the 70's started receiving aid from the US and the subsequent collapes of the USSR is the reason why they no longer receive weapons from them.

So what is your point here, that the US is helping Israel out?

But I'm not talking about the surrounding Arab countries, I'm talking about the Palestinians. Anyway, Russia don't supply the Arabs any more do they? But America, on the other hand are a major supplier and give them 4 billion dollars in aid every year.

Antizion lets not pretend that the surrounding Arab countries haven't been helping the Palestinians here. They sided with communists and you want to talk of freedom for their people?

Secondly Russia is in no position to supply anyone with anything since they're having trouble supplying themselves these days. The USSR went bankrupt trying ot out pace America with their military in the 70's and 80's. We all know of communist treatment of their people and many Arab countries were then and still now under communism.

Israel sided with the US and the US is still a thriving monetary machine. We not only supply them but we supply many other nations with money as well. If Arabs care so much about their people then they should do more for the freedom of their own. You know as well as I that to this day they are oppressed by their own people and they hypocritically point to Israel.

Constantly, you attack the Arab countries - yes they are dictatorships, but you can't exactly call Israel the perfect democracy, can you? Defend Israel, don't attack the Arab countries! Two wrongs don't make a right. The very fact that Jews or somebody with Jewish blood is allowed into Israel (ironically pure zionism thinks that Jews are a race yet the only other people who thought this were the Nazis) is racist, is it really a democracy or a "Jewish democracy?"

What democracy colour codes cars? Or makes Arabs wear red crosses on their helmets? Can this not be likened to the Nazis making Jews wear yellow stars?

No because the Jews wasn't running around blowing up things in Germany.

You don't see it hyporcritical to talk about Israel treating their people wrong while they do? What do you mean two wrongs? So then if Israel was Arabs then this would all be ok right?

What do you mean attack Arab countries? They talk about freedom, they talk about treatment of their people. So if I was Jack the Ripper, it's ok for me to talk about people killing other people dispite the fact that I do it?

Facts are these. They sided with communists and they picked the WRONG SIDE. I find it funny how they can steadily show inhumane treatment and complain about treatment of their own and you can do the same. Charity begins at home. If they want what's best for their people, maybe they should start by treating them better themselves.