Amazing little known facts about Israel.

Israel & Palestine Forum

I recently got this in my e-mail, and since i recall someone here telling me that Israel is a 'worthless little country' and that I 'couldnt prove him wrong', i would post this.

Israel, the 100th smallest country, with less than 1/1000th of the world's population, can lay claim to the following:

Israel has the highest ratio of university degrees to the population in the world.

Israel produces more scientific papers per capita than any other nation by a large margin - 109 per 10,000 people - as well as one of the highest per capita rates of patents filed.

In proportion to its population, Israel has the largest number of startup companies in the world. In absolute terms, Israel has the largest number of startup companies than any other country in the world,
except the US (3,500 companies mostly in hi-tech).

Israel is ranked #2 in the world for venture capital funds right behind the US.

Outside the United States and Canada, Israel has the largest number of NASDAQ listed companies.

Israel has the highest average living standards in the Middle East. The per capita income in 2000 was over $17,500, exceeding that of the UK.

With an aerial arsenal of over 250 F-16s, Israel has the largest fleet of the aircraft outside of the US.

Israel's $100 billion economy is larger than all of its immediate neighbors combined.

On a per capita basis, Israel has the largest number of biotech start-ups.

Twenty-four percent of Israel's workforce holds university degrees - ranking third in the industrialized world, after the United States and
Holland - and 12 percent hold advanced degrees.

Israel is the only liberal democracy in the Middle East.

In 1984 and 1991, Israel airlifted a total of 22,000 Ethiopian Jews at risk in Ethiopia to safety in Israel.

When Golda Meir was elected Prime Minister of Israel in 1969, she became the world's second elected female leader in modern times.

When the U. S. Embassy in Nairobi, Kenya was bombed in 1998, Israeli rescue teams were on the scene within a day - and saved three victims from the rubble.

Israel has the third highest rate of entrepreneurship - and the highest rate among women and among people over 55 - in the world.

Relative to its population, Israel is the largest immigrant-absorbing nation on earth. Immigrants come in search of democracy, religious freedom, and economic opportunity.

Israel was the first nation in the world to adopt the Kimberly process, an international standard that certifies diamonds as "conflict free."

According to industry officials, Israel designed the airline industry's most impenetrable flight security. U. S. officials now look to Israel for advice on how to handle airborne security threats.

In 1991, during the Gulf War, the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra played a concert wearing gas masks as scud missiles fired by Saddam Hussein fell on Tel Aviv.

Israel has the world's second highest per capita of new books.

Israel is the only country in the world that entered the 21st century with a net gain in its number of trees, made more remarkable because this was achieved in an area considered mainly desert.

Israel has more museums per capita than any other country.

Medicine... Israeli scientists developed the first fully
computerized,no-radiation, diagnostic instrumentation for breast cancer.

An Israeli company developed a computerized system for ensuring proper

administration of medications, thus removing human error from medical treatment. Every year in U. S. hospitals 7,000 patients die from treatment mistakes.

Israel's Givun imaging developed the first ingestible video camera, so small it fits inside a pill. Used to view the small intestine from the inside, the camera helps doctors diagnose cancer and digestive disorders.

Researchers in Israel developed a new device that directly helps the heart pump blood, an innovation with the potential to save lives among those with heart failure. The new device is synchronized with the
heart's mechanical operations through a sophisticated system of sensors.


Technology... With more than 3,000 high-tech companies and start-ups, Israel has the highest concentration of hi-tech companies in the world
(apart from the Silicon Valley).

In response to serious water shortages, Israeli engineers and agriculturalists developed a revolutionary drip irrigation system to minimize the amount of water used to grow crops.

Israel has the highest percentage in the world of home computers per capita.

Israel leads the world in the number of scientists and technicians in the workforce, with 145 per 10,000, as opposed to 85 in the U. S., over 70 in Japan, and less than 60 in Germany. With over 25% of its work
force employed in technical professions. Israel places first in this category as well.

The cell phone was developed in Israel by Motorola, which has its largest development center in Israel.

Most of the Windows NT operating system was developed by Microsoft-Israel.

The Pentium MMX Chip technology was designed in Israel at Intel.

Voice mail technology was developed in Israel.

Both Microsoft and Cisco built their only R&D facilities outside the US in Israel.

The AOL Instant Messenger was developed in 1996 by four young Israelis.

A new acne treatment developed in Israel, the ClearLight
device,produces a high-intensity, ultraviolet-light-free, narrow-band
blue light that causes acne bacteria to self-destruct - all without
damaging surroundings skin or tissue.

An Israeli company was the first to develop and install a large-scale
solar-powered and fully functional electricity generating plant, in
southern California's Mojave desert."

All the above while engaged in regular wars with an implacable enemy that seeks its destruction, and an economy continuously under strain by having to spend more per capita on its own protection than any other country on earth. This from a country just 55 years young having started off life on a very frontiers-like basis, whose population had mostly just emerged from the devastating World War II years.

I think its funny how you 'conveniently' miss out the Jenin massacre, the terrorist groups Stern Gang and Irgun that sprung out of israel' creation, and of course the Lavon Affair. And who can forget the Jenin massacre, or how about Ariel Sharon's war crimes throughout his life? O ye, and what about israel's illegal nuclear weapons programme? Or did you 'conveniently' forget about israels deeds on these events merkava?

The Jenin Massacre occured all right, and its zionists like you who deny this. But lets put that bloody event to the side for the moment.

Israel is said to be the biggest threat to world peace, in a poll 70% of Europeans thought this. Why is this so? Not because they are anti-semetic! But because they realise that Israel has nuclear weapons (despite the fact they deny this), and with such a dangerious prime minister like Ariel Sharon you never know when he's going to use them.

Ariel Sharon has a whole list of war crimes against his name, some even date back to 1954, when he was in charge of a unit in the Israeli army. His unit raided a camp under his orders, killing lots of women and children. What about the 1982 lebanese invasion? A formal Israeli commission found him guilty of war crimes in this instance.

What about the Lavon Affair? I know you'll give Israel all the excuses WHY they did it, but at the end of the day, they were still wrong. They tried to frame the Arabs for something they hadnt done, which if would have been successful if not for one of the bombs going off prematurely.

What about the Jewish terrorist groups? Forget Hagannah, what about Irgun and The Stern Gang? The Stern Gang actually leagued with Mussolini during the second world war! They targeted British places, e.g. the bombing of the King David Hotel.

Are you forgetting that Jews invented communism as well??

1) In the European poll, Israel would voted a bigger threat to world peace than Al-Queda, North Korea and Iran.

2) You seem pretty proud of the fact Israel have nuclear weapons, dont you?

3) I have never blamed Israel for 9/11. I simply made a post which raised some doubts and questions about the situation, pointing out some key points that have been missed by Americans. I have never said at any point that I categorically agree with the statement that Israel did 9/11. In my opinion, we will never know for sure who did it.

4) Finally, you have made a concession. At least you admit Israel were wrong in the Lavon Affair.

5) The State of Israel never hunted down their terrorist groups, they simply didnt exist after 1948 because there was no point to their existance - now the Jews had won!

6) I am Jewish. Out of interest, what religion are you?

7) Karl Marx was a Jew, and so were his followers.

LOL

1) I wasn't speaking Arabic you absolute shmok! I was speaking Hebrew!

Okay, in hebrew your sentences are:


"It looks like its going to rain tonight"

= teh roeh kmo she pired geshem

"Do you smoke"

= utu oshen?

happy now??

sorry, i wrote "teh roeh" its actually "zeh" not "teh" i.e. it is "zeh" or "zeh hayah" for it was or "yihiye" for it will be - are you satisfied now mr merkava/zionist/***er??

Ok, I guess im convinced.

Btw - most Hebrew curses are derivates of Arabic ones.

Why dont you just go here and get it over with already: http://www.jews-for-allah.org/

LOL wicked website although mostly full of crap...if i dont believe in the jewish god why the hell would i believe in the muslim god?

There is no such thing as a Jewish god and a Muslim god, we all have 1 god , and 3 different religions.

Wrong TWBR. They are NOT THE SAME. One God is the god that made the covenant with Abraham and led the Isralites out of egypt.

The other god is a god consisting of 3 parts, known as the trinity, where there is the father, son and the holy ghost (personally, i've never heard so much crap in my life - how can christians actually believe that ****! glad i'm jewish!)

And the other God is the God that spoke to Jesus and Mohammed, and made the Koran, although there are major similarities between Allah and Elohim. (btw, did you know allah is the ROOT of elohim?)

You're wrong here antizion. All the one's you speak of above is the same God.

They God the lead Israel out of Egypt is the same god of Abraham's seed Ismael from one of his handmaidens. Through Ismael, the Arab nations were formed. The same God made this seed a promise as he did the seed of Abraham, in which Jacob (2 generation down) was the father of Israel nations.

The God you speak of in Christianity is the same God as well. They believe that God functions in the trinity you speak of.

So you see, all 3 religions are very closely knit in origin.

Wrong. If you examine what different religions believe about God, you will see that this is not the case. Compare the god of the Christians to, say, the god of the Muslims or the god of the Jews, and it isn't hard to see that, all protestations to the contrary, they are not all talking about the same God.

The Christian God, for example, exists in three parts: the Father, Son and Holy Spirit (or Holy Ghost). These are three separate persons, all eternal, all omnipresent, who form a single, unified deity called the Trinity.

The Muslim God, on the other hand, is a singular being, the all-powerful creator of the universe. Although Moslems recognize Jesus as a prophet, they do not believe he was crucified, nor do they believe him to be part of the supreme deity. (In fact, to a Muslim, such an idea is blasphemous.) Muslims revere Mohammed, whom they consider to be the last of a series of prophets, as bringing God's word to Earth. However, Mohammed is very much a human being.

To Jews, God is the god of the ancient Israelites, the supreme being who made a divine covenant with Abraham. Like most other monotheistic religions, Judaism considers God to be the creator of the universe and incorporeal (without a body). However, Jews do not recognize Jesus as being divine or a part of God. They do, however, believe that God has communicated with the Jewish people via various prophets (although, unlike Muslims, they do not consider Mohammed to have been a prophet).

Other religions have completely different conceptions of a supreme being. Hindus, for example, believe that all reality is a single divine entity that composes the entire universe. To Hindus, this entity is the universe and, at the same time, transcends the universe. They visualize a supreme deity as a triad consisting of Brahma, the Creator; Vishnu (Krishna), the Preserver; and Shiva, the Destroyer. Some Hindus consider Vishnu to be the ultimate deity, others consider Shiva to be the ultimate deity. At the same time, Hindus collectively worship many hundreds of different gods and goddesses, each of which represents one aspect of the universal being.

Here is one last example that I find particularly interesting. Like Christians, Mormons recognize a holy trinity. However, they consider God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit to be completely separate entities. God and Jesus have bodies of flesh and bone (and, literally, God had sex with Mary to produce Jesus). The Mormon God was once a human-like being, and (I'm skipping a lot of details here) they believe that it is possible for a man to eventually become a God in his own right and rule over his own planet.

So, you see that all the God's are different.

And as for Avraham, it is interesting to point out that he was an Arab, so was Yitzchak and that Yishmael himself was actually a Jew. So Jews came from Arabs and Jews came from Arabs, which sort of makes them related.

Confusing, I know.

"So Jews came from Arabs and Jews came from Arabs, which sort of makes them related."

I meant so jews came from arabs and arabs came from jews

Yes they are related and yes this is the "same God" they speak of. They just have different beliefs about what he wants.

What you speak of as being different is their faiths not their God antiZion. I know nothing of Hindu faith so I can't speak on it, but I do know of the God of Israel and Muslim and Christian.

On I must make this correction. Christians do not believe that God is or ever was flesh and bone, but Jesus was. Jesus was the man that housed Christ the Spirit.

Never do Christians believe that God had sex with Mary, they believe that God implanted a child in Mary's womb to become a sacrifice for the sins of the world.

I also disagree with Anti-Zionist, God brought down Moses for the Jews and they have their religion, then God wanted to make another which is Chritianity, he got Jesus to do it, 600 years after, both religions were suffering and the followers werent doing a good job of staying loyal to their religion, so God made the last religion in order to make things better, which is Islam. Most of the rules we have are an effect to what happened to Judaism and Christianity, so basicly we have one god and 3 religions, Anti-Zionist...your a great person for standing up for all the anti-zionists but when it comes to religion...we dont agree.

God decided to make things better which is Islam? Ok, I'm beginning to see why you're so anti-Israel TWBR, but if you do your research, you will find that Islam is older than Christianity so your assumptions there isn't correct.

I also find it counter-productive to support suicide bombers as it being their only way to defend themselves. Nothing is just about them. You can't claim Israel is wrong for bombing civilians, then claim Palestinians are legit in sending suicide bombers to do the same.

Like I said before Arabs chose the USSR for support during their many wars against Israel. It so happens they chose the wrong supporters. Israel gained support from the US during the mid 70's. I believe that if Arabs had the superiority Israel has now over Palestine, they would have wiped them from the face of the earth.

oneofpeace writes:
On I must make this correction. Christians do not believe that God is or ever was flesh and bone, but Jesus was. Jesus was the man that housed Christ the Spirit.

I never said this was the Christian belief, I said this was the Mormon belief. Read my post properly dumbass.

TWBR writes:
I also disagree with Anti-Zionist, God brought down Moses for the Jews and they have their religion, then God wanted to make another which is Chritianity, he got Jesus to do it, 600 years after, both religions were suffering and the followers werent doing a good job of staying loyal to their religion, so God made the last religion in order to make things better, which is Islam. Most of the rules we have are an effect to what happened to Judaism and Christianity, so basicly we have one god and 3 religions, Anti-Zionist...your a great person for standing up for all the anti-zionists but when it comes to religion...we dont agree.

That's all fine with Islam. And I accept that the Islamic and the Judeo God are very similar. However, it is separate from the Christian God, who is a part of the trinity and has a son.

oneofpeace,

the palestinians are people whose land was stolen from them.
My point is, you cannot be so critical of others and start judging what is right and wrong when you yourself are committing wrongdoings. Let me give you another example. Most of the times you hear or read abt the "accidental shootings" done by the Israeli soldiers on kids or women. And the report after that from the army would be " We are investigating this matter"...duh....gimme a break. what are you going to investigate. If lets say the soldier was found to be in the wrong...on what grounds are you going to charge him...coz the entire occupation is illegal....

before you open your mouth and start talking abt the palestinians, look at the crap on you in from of the mirror 1st.


I get very pissed when somebody walks on my backyard with their dog...when they know its private property. can you imagine how the palestinians feel?

this conflict is not abt religion. its all abt land. i have very good jewish and christian friends and they totally pity the plight of the palestinians.

if you know arabic, let me tell you..the word in arabic is these zionists are full of zalim(cruelty).

have a good day.

Omg! It had nothing to do with whether you were agreeing with it, it's just the fact that you didn't even bother reading my post properly pisses me off, then you had the chutzpa to reply to it.

antizionist in the Israel forum is like oneofpeace in Iraq forum. Posting a reply every 2 min, full of **** nonetheless. Funny how he easily dismissed the Jenin crap after Merkava provided couple of links to articles about it. I am sure he is going to fall back to the same argument in another thread.

I took over the Jenin Massacre and Merkava has nothing to prove.

MrJ has issues and I wish he'd find himself another forum and torture someone else instead of shadowing me. I guess he has nothing better to do with his time.

Antizion, I was mostly replying to your post of calling me out of my name. In fact, Mr J and his followers are exactly the ones I'm speaking of when I say that they project their issues onto others in forums. Name calling is their immature specialty. He supports the Iraq war, I don't. And in light of no WMD ever being found he still supports this as it lacks foundation.

So what I'm mainly saying to you Antizion, the name calling is something I don't care for. That is my point I was making.

As for the Jenin events, I have yet to see a credible source to colaborate your claims that it was a massacre. As it stands now, the UN has denied this claim as well as Palestinians.

Whatever guys.

A quick note on the Iraq War:

Although no weapons of mass destruction were found, SO WHAT? An evil dictator is gone. The world is a safer place. Libya and other Arab and Muslim countries are halting their weapons programmes. Britain and America are even closer. Hundreds of thousands of future Iraqi generations have been spared. Bodies which have been found killed by Saddam will now have proper burial.

But besides the point, it seems Mr J is a bit of a prat who thinks he is great, and it is pathetic that he has resorted to name calling on such a respected forum.

Who has more rights to live on today's Israel's land - jews who have been there thousands of years ago and who have their holiest religious sites or palestinians, a non-existant nation? Who are palestinians - if zionism is occupation of palestine, where is "Palestine"? Palestine itself didnt exist prior to 1948. It (lands and people who lived there) was part of Jordan, had no government, no education, no healthcare, no justice, nothing. Plain deserts and arabs riding camels around the place.

But then again, Israel is the oppressor, since it deliberately performed a mass murder in the Jenin camp.

antizionist so you actually support war in Iraq? Hmmmm, very strange.

Muslims owned that land longer than the Jews did, and its not about who deservs the land, thats doesnt matter, just because you owned it 2,000 years ago doesnt mean that you can demand it back and take it illegaly. I wouldnt mind sharing the land with the Jews but the way that the Zionists did this was totaly horrible and people now are starting to notice.

So if muslims illegally kicked jews out 2000 years ago, it's alright. When jews come back and claim their land, they are evil oppressors and occupiers.

When jews build a nation which is the ONLY democracy in the region, when jews dont explode themselves in muslims' subways and buses, they are called the oppressors.

Oh please. **** off.

Mr J, why do you find it strange that I support the Iraq War? Because I am anti-Israel that means I am pro-Arab? What strange logic you have.

And also Mr J, there was a Palestine before 1948 you shmok, look it up in a history book or an old atlas you might have, and of course there were Palestinians living there, who did you think lived there, ISRAELIS?

I have a dictionary , the big red Webster one, it was made in 1991.
Here are the definitions for Israel and Palestine

Israel n - a republic in SW asia, on the Mediterranean: formed as a Jewish state in 1948. 5,534,672; 7984 sq. miles. Capital Jerusalem.

Palestine n - also called Holy Land. Biblical name, Canaan. an ancient country in SW asia, on E coast of the Mediterranean.

According to this Dictionary, Palestine was a country.

According to world opinion and every history book Palestine was a country. It's just a shame that extremists like Mr J try to deny the entire existence of Palestine.

It was originally known as Canaan, then Palestine, then Israel, then Judah, then Judea, then Palestine and then Israel. If you are claiming that it was never Palestine then you are denying the existence of a FACT. It's ridiculous. Just pick up an old map which dates pre-1948 and you will see the PALESTINE clearly marked.

Who do you think lived in palestine? Like ENGLish people live in ENGLand, FRench people lived in FRance and SPANish people live in SPAiN, who do you think lived in Palestine? Perhaps a people called the PALestinISH??

I didn't think so.

Never have I seen such ridiculos and ignorent things posted antizionist2004 you dont know your facts at all. I am a Muslim girl living in very near the palestinian terretories. You make a significant problem because you say your are against Israel and Islam but you are pro palestinians did you know that 99% of palestinians are Muslim? Dont be "pro my people" if you are in fact against us. It is truly and utterly wrong. And as much as Palestinaians are as you say restricted. The Jenin Masacre IS A MYTH! THIS IS A FACT Palestinians admit to it now. Anti Zionist you really embaressing yourself. Also for the record your hebrew is rubbish I speak fluent hebrew and fluent arabic so speak sence. Look you obviasly know nothing about the Israeli Palestinian conflict so bring some facts some evidence have you even be to Israel to the effected areas? Do you know people who have died because of Jihad and hammas and hezbolla terror Becuase I have so lets hear what you have to say?
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TWBR you sound too much like Hashash now..

For those on this forum who don't know...


TWBR introduced to a forum he usually goes on..he gets all his info from his friend called Hashash, who supports the Taliban and Al-Queda, has brainwashed TWBR into thinking Jews did 9/11, that Hamas and Al-Queda are good...

Don't you ever think for yourself?

Would it make a difference if she did? You have been presented with material already on this issue. You will still believe that there was some kind of massacre there regardless.

In fact you'll never buy into anything but your biased rhetoric that Israel wants to kill all Palestinians and take their land. I don't see why you even bother to ask such. The fact that you do shows that you will not believe it even if Hamas told you themselves it was a lie.

I am guessing you are addressing TWBR's query on seeing her links..

but I think it wouldn't make a difference to him, read what I said about him and his links to Hashash (scroll up, bit above) to understand why..

However, I would be interested to see if she has a link for that..if they have admitted it themselves then obviously it can't be true....

Well TWBR's perspectives in my opinion has taken a dramatic change. Don't get me wrong, he's always been very pro Palestinian but it seems as of lately his views have been quite extreme.

He's young and very impressionable and this is the type of guy someone like Hashash would prey on for recruitment. I really think TWBR is in danger of succumbing to the extreme ideologies of the M.E. and even might become pro-active in their movement. He does seem to be the prototype for such a person.

ye..

http://cradle2thegrave.proboards25....x.cgi?board=Law

that's the forum that's brainwashing him..run by Muslim Arabs..

I'm "logic85" on the forum, you'll notice ironically that on that forum they consider me "a zionist" because I believe Jews didn't do 9/11 and believe that Palestinians should have half of Israel not all of it back lol..and because I criticise Al-Queda they think I am crazy.

AZ, its really ridiculus how you use the word JEWS and not Zionists, your giving Jews a bad name by saying that all Jews are Zionists, give them some respect.

Show the members of IR how Hashash embarrases you.

TWBR a word of advice which I know you will dismiss. You need to get as far away from that forum as you can. They will strip you of any stred of human decencies you have left.

Please do yourself a favor and educate yourself and stop listening to the garbage being projected by such extreme hate orgs.

I don't know if you'll listen, but I believe that's the best advice you can receive from anyone in these forums.

Like Hashash, i support Al'Qeada (why? arent they responsible for 9/11? I dont think they are, and since they are not, im not agaisnt them), and all Palestinian resistance groups.

No Thanks OFP, im not going to educate my self with what the Media and Zionists teach you guys.

So instead you subscribe to the M.E. version of the K.K.K.? You sound like a brainwashed zombee TWBR. Next week you'll be building explosive vests for those idiots.

You really make me think twice about letting my daughter online. I think you're a lost cause that is in danger of becoming someone who contributes little to constructive society.

TWBR

you know that September 11th wasn't the only terrorist attack Al-Queda have authorised..right??

TWBR why don't you wake up to the truth..that forum is a place where terrorists are recruited ffs.

No, i dont believe that it was Al'Qeada because no evidence was given.

Both of you, make me sick, stop talking to me.

Now I know you think you and your new found friends are the holy warriors of the earth, however you don't control anyone here. If you don't want a response, stop posting your radical hate filled nonsense on this site. Take it to jihad.com or some where else.

And may you and your friends find the rewards you are seeking, at least you will on earth because I don't think you all are going to appreciate hell in the after life for all your efforts.

OneOfPeace - You swear that the Palestinians were the first ones to attack the Israelis, but you dont provide me with evidence or atleast named me an incident of it happenin.

AZ - even with enough evidence to prove that there was Zionist involvement in the 9/11 attacks and that there is no proof watsoever that it was Al'Qeada who did it, you still deny both and dont explain why.

Both of you have serious issues.

You come here, insult me and my friends, just because they know the truth and both of you dont.

OneOfPeace, your always critizing me, even when i prove you wrong.

You have yet to prove anyone wrong from what I see on these sites, at least to any significant degree.

I already pointed you to the 20’s. An era in which the Jews were consistently attacked and murdered by your people. You seemingly want to dismiss it and count from 1947. I can see why you do. It doesn’t fit into your short sighted theory of Israel murdering and stealing land from Palestinians.

You're idealisms are nothing new and is rooted in old racial hatred brewing for years, much of which you happen to succumb to the nonsense of it.

I don’t need to insult your friends, they do that for themselves by subscribing to the likes of Al Qaeda, Hamas, and the rest of your Middle Eastern zealots who actually think that God gets some type of satisfaction from their violence. And if you subscribe to their ideologies, then you are also classified in that category and all of you will wake up in hell should you decide to follow its doctrines.

Call it insult if you want but your friends are twisted and in the last few weeks, you appear to not be far behind them in your rantings as well.

I said ISRAELIS not JEWS.

You know something. I find it funny that you want to distinguish the difference between the same people. They are the same people. The only reason for you to do such is to sustain your bigoted beliefs against Israel/Jews.

That is like saying we’re talking about Arabs not Saudis. You need a great deal of understanding TW which you lack completely in your postings.

Before the creation of Israel, there were no Israelis, just European Jews.

Not so, and if you believe that, then you don't know your history at all. There were indeed a nation of Israel/Hebrew/Jews prior to 1948, complete with their own customs and language. They were scattered because of war. The reason they are called Israelis is because of their ancestor's name Israel.

And even by your own admittion Jews were that before Israel was RE-born in 1948 officially. They are the same people, these are the ones killed in the 20's by those you declare never meant to do it, Arabs.

OFP,Most of the European Jews and the rest of the Jews never spoke Hebrew before the creation of Israel.

It is historically accurate that the Israelis are indeed Jews. Today we see Jews as a religion, however from the beginning they were referred to as Jews.

Now what TWBR is saying is both right and wrong. There are indeed the European Jew in which he refers to. However there were Jews/Israelis long before 1948. The ones he mentions are those that adapted Judaism as their religion. However, the native Jews of that region are indeed Arabs themselves and in fact, they are related through the very same ancestry whom is named in both the Torah and Quran.

That's true. Hebrew, an ancient language, was revived with the Zionist movement so that the people there could share a common language. Hebrew and Arabic share some common heritage in ancient Aramaic.

AZ is also correct about not all Israelis being Jews, and not all Jews being Israelis. Not all Arabs are Muslim either, although the vast majority of them are.

- woolfe

Rrright....

And lets not forget the lessons learned in the Warsaw ghetto now so cleverly used in Palestine by the jews. Embargo, curfew, registration.
Suffer an attack? Detroy a block of homes. Himmlers idea originally, clever.
Have a dissident voice in a foreign country? Assassinate and/or kidnap him. Soveriegnty of course not relevant when dealing with Gentiles. After all according to jewish belief we are non-human, inferior.
A simple lesson my friend, you declare yourself superior to all others by a plagiarized mythology. Don't be surprised when us lesse
r folk retaliate.

Maybe I missed it but I have neither read or seen anything about Israeli Suicide Bombers . Maybe they are behind the times and are even now teaching two-year olds how to make bombs and infiltrate Arab culture to blow up any and everything and everyone.

Why would Israelis need to become suicide bombers? They are not being oppressed, and they are not fighting for land stolen from them.