Kobe Bryant Is Guilty!!!!!

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I believe the girl that said he assaulted her you would think that guy who has a daughter would think twice or a million times before he rapes someone I don't think he would want someone to do the same to his little girl when she gets to that age I think its a load of crap for anyone to think she deserved to be assaulted just cause she flirted with the guy I flirted with the guy who sexually assaulted me and I didnt ask for that to happen to me I think its disturbing for anyone to say something like that I read it in an article that someone said that and I think bringing up the race issue is a load of crap to I think there just getting desperate now so there just going to throw anything out there. I believe her cause I was sexually assaulted myself and it's not something you just makeup. And i think ruining her repauataion is a low blow the problems she has with her health is her business no one elses. And people should respect her privacy. The guy who assaulted me i consider him a low life and I look at at Kobe bryant the same way hes a low life.

Sorry to hear that, but you should file a complaint with the police. Then hire a lawyer and go get therapy. You need to get better. If the law says he's guilty, then sue the guy. Hope that helps.

i'm sorry about what happened to you but why would he rape her she went to the room with him and was hugging and kissing all over him she most likely wanted to be with him and she asked him to leave his wife he said no and now she is just tryin to get back at him for hurting her

You obviously haven't heard all of the evidence. She is a slut, the whore wore the same underwear to her physical two days later that she ****ed Kobe in. She had sperm from other men on her underwear. Now tell me Kobe is not innocent. IDIOT!!!

sorry to hear about what happend to you linda but ur opinion is CLEARLY biased because you were assaulted yourself. after i read that, i paid no attention to anything else you said

kobe is innocent

First let me say I feel for anyone who has been sexually assulted. Second this is America so what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty. Third eveyone keeps saying why would this girl make up something like this, well one reason would be GREED a quick way to make an easy buck. Due to media coverage it is easy to tell the girl has had some mental problems (and this coming from actual 911 calls) so maybe she thinks that she get Kobe to settle out of court and the sudden cash flow can make her think she is happy and that all her problems will go away. Another reason maybe for attention and I know that anyone who as been though this will say that nobody ever wants that kind of attention, but how many people have tried to commit suiside 4 times in one year. Most people that are truly unhappy and try to take their life suceed if not the first time at least the second time. After that is a cry for attention. So as a basketball fan and an American Kobe is innocent until proven other wise not by you, me or the media but by the United State Judicial system.

Linda25 I am sorry to say all you people are wrong. I am a million percent sure Koby is innocent. He has been a basketball star for 8 years and just now a woman says she was violated? This Hotel worker in portland said. "She_said no to Koby" Koby never forced himself on her. He is Koby Bryant. He doesn't need to "R" If he did he is a moron. All he had to do is call up the next girl that was star struck! My question to everyone who has written their opion about this is. This acuser Knew the life of a professional athlete. She didn't even know Koby personally. She goes up to his room late at night? She is supose to be working Doing her job! She knew Koby was a stranger and the lifestyle he lived. She has nobody to blame but herself. She should have used better judgement. She figured oh I see Koby on Tv. I know him Personally. It was not smart thinking on her part. Ladies please use good judgement Never go into a Man's or Woman's apartment or house you don't personally know. I am sorry Linda25 but I am not sympathetic towards that girl in Eagle Co. It also has been posted on the net that a white racist group has handed fliers. Linda25 If you and all othe other people that think Koby is Guilty could hear All the evidence. Even the ones being hidden by the rape shield law. I would promise you. Linda you would say Koby is innocent. I will watch the trial. I don't even think Tyson was guilty. It was a set up. He had a ex wife that never acused him of "R" I think she said Tyson somestimes was rough in bed but it was all consetual. I am trying to say these things to all of you who think Koby is guilty in a respectable way. Rape is a very sensitive subject. People who are victims of raper weather it's Men women or children should be protected. Linda25 or anyone else email me back If you disagree But Im sorry Koby is 100% innocent of "R"

If he's innocent, then drop the charges and stop this insanity.

Kate is a party girl and was just out to have a fun time.

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Hi Sherry, just stopping by once again. Was here long time ago.

But no one was posting. Then all of a sudden all Kobe's fans come out of the woodworks. I was here when times were BAD, really bad for Kobe.

Same for Scott Peterson..... been over at Delta's Thread for a while now.

The same for Jacko Thread. Is this place hopping yet?

It should be soon Ken. I just wanted to stop the "your an idiot" stuff before it gets like it was last year.

I kinda like it when all of Kate's fans were here. Got me busy then with all their gripes. Now, it's like.... yeah, okay.... you're right.... blah, blah, blah....

Where's the challenge? Like a cakewalk.

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040724/thumb.ny13007240046.bryant_case_ny130.jpg Kobe Bryant , left, arrives at the Eagle County Courthouse with his defense attorney Pamela Mackey, right, and a member of his security team, Kym Stewart, center, in this June 21, 2004 file photo, in Eagle, Colo. In a huge victory for Bryant's defense, the judge in the NBA star's sexual assault case ruled Friday, July 23, 2004, that his accuser's sex life during the week of their encounter can be used against her at trial.(AP Photo/Ed Andrieski, File)

This is what I think...not that it means much...

but personally, I dont see how anyone can decide guilt or innocence until they have learned all the facts....

This country lives by innocent until proven guilty....once people start the vigilante justice of determining guilt without the facts, then they begin to erode our system of justice.

Im certain people dont want that to happen.

You never know if one day one of you will be sitting in the defendants chair, and if that happens remember what kind of rash decisions you made about others before the facts.

And while you are sitting around wondering why you are not getting what every American has the right to have, which is a fair trial...remember you could have helped stopped this process of injustice and vigilante thinking.

Oh, I'm sure Kobe is getting his fair day in court and then some, with his pit-bull lawyer Pamela Mackey. (see picture above)

I don't think Geragos could do what she does in court.... to rip apart The Prosecution's case. At the Preliminary Hearing, it was another as expected.... bam, bam... thank you Mamn. Just like the Scott PH. So what else is new? Nada.

http://www.drhenrylee.com/images/sec/about/about_page_pt.jpg When it comes to the Fourth Amendment Rights, Kobe is getting his because he can get the best lawyers, the best forensic experts like Dr. Henry Lee and also the best jury consultant like Jo-Ellen Dimitrius. This tiny town Eagle County ain't got a prayer.... even if their local citizens all know Kate Faber.... because if the jury finds him guilty..... the Defense will win on Appeal.

Just a matter of time..... a waste of taxpayer's money for a false rape claim. But again.... Kobe is innocent until proven guilty.

If she dropped the charges ken. She would really look stupid. She is enjoying this Game she is playing. This girl is a celebrity. She loves it. This is a sad day in USA when people enjoy hurting other people.

Mystic, you know that I said today at the Scott Peterson thread that "Geragos is one of the best defense attorney in the United States" at the present time. (Yes the same to Jeralynn Merritt but not Gloria Allred, Nancy Grace, and Wendy Murphy who don't have the high caliber legal skills and determination in the defense side; They never would defend Martha Stewart, nor would Martha want to ever hire them either. )

http://content.clearchannel.com/Photos/sports_photos/NBA/Lakers/kobe/bryant_fan_KevinMoloney1.jpg From what I've seen so far from Pam Mackey, she too is right up there with Geragos, but I like to see her do her thing going up against Mark Hurbert's best witnesses and do what Geragos does by turning The State's witnesses for the Defense. That is a legal art all to its own. You can't learn that in law school nor off a text book.

Geragos is quick on his feet. He's fearless in court. He's a strong advocate in defending his client on criminal charges. Geragos has a good track record.

I showed you Pam's feminine side in post #20 above, now see her other side.
http://content.clearchannel.com/Photos/sports_photos/NBA/Lakers/kobe/bryant_lawyer_PoolGI.jpg Mackey has a reputation as the legal pit-bull.... so I like to see how she rips them into shreds. Those liars are going to run for cover.

1. “Pam is always on the attack for her client, not on defense,” says attorney Larry Pozner. Despite the tailored suits and piercing interrogations, Mackey, 47, bucks the stereotype of the ruthless, high-paid defense attorney. She represented indigent clients in the public defender’s office: “Pam had an incredible dedication to people who had nothing, who were nobody,” says Mark Johnson, her former boss there.

2. .... How nasty a fight are Mackey and Haddon prepared to wage? “I think she will attack [Kobe’s accuser’s] story , as opposed to her character ,” says Jeralyn Merritt, a defense lawyer. “She’s not mean-spirited.”

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It makes me sick to read of women who have labeled Kobe as guilty,just because they were sexually assualted!Just because you were assualted does not mean that Kobe is guilty,aren't we innocent until PROVEN guilty?Everyone has an opinion just like everyone has an anus!Stop saying he is guilty and let the courts sort it out.And get over it!!!whinning *****es!!!

You must have been there if you say he's guilty.
C'mon, Be real.
I'm sorry about whatever happened to you, but what does that have to do with the price of rice in China???
Please don't be ignorant just because of your emoptions. You need to learn to separate them from the facts. And the FACTS are you know nothing of what happed there. You are extremely incorrect when you say that girls don't make things up. The FACT is that many girls have ADMITTED TO making false charges. You need to do your research. Please!!! Next time before you go spouting off like that again (even just to your friends or whatever) THINK before you speak.
What you said is just as ludacris as if I had been through an experience where a girl falsely accused me of rape, and then I said "all rapes are false"-- just because of my personal experience. How rediculous both statements are!!! So, hopefully now you have seen your error and will never judge like that again...
Thank you.

I believe now that All you People are beginning to see how rediculous this trial is. Koby did not "R" her. They are now trying as a prosecution to say Koby Groped a woman 2 YEARS ago? She comes and complaines about it 2 yrs later after the incident. Thats Obsurd. You complaine to the police ASAP!!!!! Lady Good Grief. I known from Day 1 Koby was innocent. If this picture that I am seeing right now is Kate. She is Pretty on the outside But Very ugly on the inside. She will get old and fat someday. Where is her inner beauty at? No where to be found. I supose If I met this young woman. She would say. This disabled guy "R" me. People wake up. Koby is Innocent of "R" Leave him alone! He will patch up his marriage later.

Just b/c you were raped does not mean no one else would lie about being rape...You were there. He does not have to play the race card b/c the prosecution has a very weak case. He will get off. I am sorry that you were assaulted but that does not mean everytime some woman excuses a man of rape...She all of sudden becomes the Pope...Also just b/c you are white does not mean you are right....

You cannot be pointing the finger at people because of your own personal experiences. The fact that she had the same underwear with the semen of another man tells you that it wasn't that difficult for kobe to get in her pants. The fact that it's so easy for you to make a decision means you havn't dealt with your own case.

My case? I do not have a criminal history. I am professional African American. You are the one bringing your personal history into to this case and assuming b/c Kobe was accussed that he automatically is guilty. You are not in England where you are guilty until proven innocent. In America...you are innocent until proven guilty....All Americans are entitled to that right. I wonder if you'd be up in arms about this if it were Bret Favre??? I am not confused nor upset...I say the same thing for that black girl who went in Mike Tysons hotel room late in the night after knowing him a few hours...She was stupid just like this girl was...Wake up ladies..Use the commen sense that your parents should have instilled in you...If you don't know then let me enlighten you...Do not under any circumstance go anywhere...Especially a place where there is a bed. With any man you just met w/ in I say a month...Do I think Tyson raped that girl yes I do...Did he deserve prison time yes he did...But unlike some of you..I look at these situations on a case by case basis..not by what color the plaintiff is....

The thing that I don't understand is why Kristene faber. Just didn't bare Koby's baby. She would have gotten at least 50 million dollars in 18 yrs for Child Support. What a stupid Girl ha ha

Lovely response, even explained all the inconsistencies that everyone who thinks he's guilty seem to want to over look. I do not agree with nor support rape nor ignorance. I as a 170 lb man know that if I am silly enough to argue w/ a 250 lb man I may or may not get a heavy knuckle sandwich...I also know that if I go to prison that 270 lb bubba will be waiting for me...

I am not talking about your every day garden variety of rape...Such as you walkin from your car or date rape...We are talking about a segment of society that endulge in gold digging. So they place there common sense to the wayside. No you don't deserve to be raped for any circumstance but don't expect everyone to feel sorry for you if you put yourself in harms way...All for that all mighty dollar or b/c you are star struck...We all know to put our seat belt on don't we?

The worst possible thing that is coming from this entire fiasco is that if the accuser is indeed lying about this, which it appears that she is, she's inflicting a serious blow to the credibility of real victims everywhere. It's already difficult for anyone who is raped to find justice without being re-victimized by the system in the process. It's cases like these that cast doubt on the claims of true victims everywhere.

False accusations of rape do hurt the the people who actually get assaulted. This case does have something positive about it though. It helps to remind us of what not to do and not to assume anything. Even if he is guilty. Give both parties a chance to be heard in court (If it makes it that far..LOL) and listen to what happen. We all tend to bring our own point of view into a circumstance. In reality it does not effect the facts. Either he did or he didn't rape her. If he did he needs to be held accountable. If he didn't she needs t be held accountable...They need to pass a law that if you falsely accuse someone of a crime you should have to do the time they were about face. I bet that would nip that in the bud...

You can charge someone with filing a false police report.

Isnt that, in essence, what she did?

The district attorney I heard violated Koby's Rights by not going to the Grand Jury first. I believe thats what MSNBC said. Mark Huerlbert is accually proud of himself for this. This is very sad. They accussed Koby Bryant of the most grose crime that you could ever do to a lady next to Murder. He knew from day 1 Koby was innocent. This is the most rediculous "R" Case ever. How sad. Koby will always have people thinking he did this when I know dang well he didn't do it. I hope this woman doesn't get a dime. She has insulted the 99.9% of women who are_crying out for justice who tell the truth. I have to shake my head in disgust.

Yes this is what I have been waiting for...Where is the girl that kept saying he is going down..balh blah blah...He is free and your girl and the state of Colorado are looking really silly for wasting everyones time...

If I was still a Colorado resident, I'd be suing for restitution on the waste of tax dollars!

what were you saying about desperation??

I am gonna watch this big Soap Opera and laugh at Pamela Mackey Attcking Katelyn Kristein Faber. To see to women having verbal sparing will be funny. Koby will give less autographs now because of her! He will snubb so many fans out of fear of being sued for being friendly

" Cool hand Luke"...where are they now?

They are in Los Angeles

He is not guilty so get off him the little white b***** was lyin' so get over it

I know Moss this was such B.S extortion. It was absurd and pethetic. It made me sick I wish everyone would leave Koby alone and thats including women's groups in Colorado wake up and be fair to the Men that are Not Guilty.

I know Moss this was such B.S extortion. It was absurd and pethetic. It made me sick I wish everyone would leave Koby alone and thats including women's groups in Colorado wake up and be fair to the Men that are Not Guilty.

This woman spent 400,000 of the 2 million dollar county budget to Prosecute Koby Thats a lot of money She better Move and stay out of Town. She is a embarrassment to Eagle County Co. CNN gave the Price