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Posted by: iudoe


Israeli lobby's influence on George Walker Bush for WAR
The key to seeing the level of the Israeli lobby's influence on the
George Walker Bush (Bush Jr) Administration is watching the
appointments of the following Israelis and pro-Israel Jewish advisors
to posts in the White House or other Executive Branch Positions.

It is the war-mongering of many of these pro-Israeli advisors that is
driving all the hype of wanting to go to war against Iraq. The
Israeli lobby wants the United States to do Israel's dirty work by
fighting its proxy war against Iraq.

The reality of the situation is that no one in Washington, whether in
the Pentagon (top military brass, joint chiefs, etc) or in Congress,
wants this Israeli proxy war against Iraq. Only those connected to
the Israeli lobby want this war.

It is very important to know the identity of these pro-Israeli
officials within the administration in order to understand who is
behind this war-mongering and realizing that is serving Israeli
interests, not American interests.

It is unfortunate that Bush has picked these people to these top
posts. The sad fact for him is that in the instant that he decides
not to go to war against Iraq, the Israeli lobby will bring him down,
like they did to his father, a decade earlier.

Note: The Washington Institute for Near East Policy is one of the
Israeli lobby's "think tank." Many of the Israeli lobby's "experts"
come from this front group, like Martin Indyk.

1). Richard Perle--(28 March Perle just resigned over his conflict of interest
Yet he denied any wrong doings!) One of Bush's foreign policy advisors, he is the
chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board. A very likely
Israeli government agent, Perle was expelled from Senator Henry
Jackson's office in the 1970's after the National Security Agency
(NSA) caught him passing Highly-Classified (National Security)
documents to the Israeli Embassy. He later worked for the Israeli
weapons firm, Soltam. Perle is one of the leading pro-Israeli
fanatics leading this Iraq war mongering within the administration
and now in the media.

2). Paul Wolfowitz----Deputy Defense Secretary, and member of Perle's
Defense Policy Board, in the Pentagon. Wolfowitz is a close associate
of Perle, and reportedly has close ties to the Israeli military. His
sister lives in Israel. Wolfowitz is the number two leader within the
administration behind this Iraq war mongering.

3). Douglas Feith----Under Secretary of Defense and Policy Advisor at
the Pentagon. He is a close associate of Perle and served as his
Special Counsel. Like Perle and the others, Feith is a pro-Israel
extremist, who has advocated anti-Arab policies in the past. He is
closely associated with the extremist group, the Zionist Organization
of America, which even attacks Jews that don't agree with its
extremist views. Feith frequently speaks at ZOA conferences.

Feith runs a small law firm, Feith and Zell, which only has one
International office, in Israel. The majority of their legal work is
representing Israeli interests. His firm's own website stated, prior
to his appointment, that Feith "represents Israeli Armaments
Manufacturer." Feith basically represents the Israeli War Machine.
Feith, like Perle and Wolfowitz, are campaigning hard for this
Israeli proxy war against Iraq.

4). Edward Luttwak----Member of the National Security Study Group of
the Department of Defence at the Pentagon. Luttwak is reportedly an
Israeli citizen and has taught in Israel. He frequently writes for
Israeli and pro-Israeli newspapers and journals. Luttwak is an
Israeli extremist whose main theme in many of his articles is the
necessity of the U.S. waging war against Iraq.

5). Henry Kissinger-----One of many Pentagon Advisors, Kissinger sits
on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle. For detailed
information about Kissinger's evil past, read Seymour Hersch's book
(Price of Power: Kissinger in the Nixon White House). Kissinger had a
part in the Watergate crimes, Southeast Asia mass murders, Chile
dictatorship, and more recently served as Serbian Dictator Slobodan
Milosevic's Advisor. He consistently advocates going to war against
Iraq. Kissinger is the Ariel Sharon of the U.S.

6). Dov Zakheim----Under Secretary of Defense, Comptroller, and Chief
Financial Officer (CFO) for the Department of Defense. He is an
ordained rabbi and reportedly holds Israeli citizenship. Zakheim
attended attended Jew's College in London and became an ordained
Orthodox Jewish Rabbi in 1973. He was adjunct professor at New York's
Jewish Yeshiva University. Zakheim is close to the Israeli lobby.

7). Kenneth Adelman-----One of many Pentagon Advisors, Adelman also
sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle, and is
another extremist pro-Israel advisor, who supports going to war
against Iraq. Adelman frequently is a guest on Fox News, and often
expresses extremist and often ridiculus anti-Arab and anti-Muslim
views. Through his hatred or stupidity, he actually called Arabs
"anti-Semitic" on Fox News (11/28/2001), when he could have looked it
up in the dictionary to find out that Arabs by definition are
Semites.

8). I. Lewis Libby -----Vice President **** Cheney's Chief of Staff.
The chief pro-Israel Jewish advisor to Cheney, it helps explains why
Cheney is so gun-ho to invade Iraq. Libby is longtime associate of
Wolfowitz. Libby was also a lawyer for convicted felon and Israeli
spy Mark Rich, whom Clinton pardoned, in his last days as president.

9). Robert Satloff----U.S. National Security Council Advisor, Satloff
was the executive director of the Israeli lobby's "think tank,"
Washington Institute for Near East Policy. Many of the Israeli
lobby's "experts" come from this front group, like Martin Indyk.

10). Elliott Abrams-----National Security Council Advisor. He
previously worked at Washington-based "Think Tank" Ethics and Public
Policy Center. During the Reagan Adminstration, Abrams was the
Assistant Secretary of State, handling, for the most part, Latin
American affairs. He played an important role in the Iran-Contra
Scandal, which involved illegally selling U.S. weapons to Iran to
fight Iraq, and illegally funding the contra rebels fighting to
overthrow Nicaragua's Sandinista government.

He also actively deceived three congressional committees about his involvement and
thereby faced felony charges based on his testimony. Abrams pled
guilty in 1991 to two misdemeanors and was sentenced to a year's
probation and 100 hours of community service. A year later, former
President Bush (Senior) granted Abrams a full pardon. He was one of
the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the Reagan Administration's State
Department.

11). Marc Grossman-----Under Secretary of State for Political
Affairs. He was Director General of the Foreign Service and Director
of Human Resources at the Department of State. Grossman is one of
many of the pro-Israel Jewish officials from the Clinton
Administration that Bush has promoted to higher posts.

12). Richard Haass-----Director of Policy Planning at the State
Department and Ambassador at large. He is also Director of National
Security Programs and Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign
Relations (CFR). He was one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in
the first Bush (Sr) Administration who sat on the National Security
Council, and who consistently advocates going to war against Iraq.
Haass is also a member of the Defense Department's National Security
Study Group, at the Pentagon.

13). Robert Zoellick-----U.S. Trade Representative, a cabinet-level
position. He is also one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the
Bush (Jr) Administration who advocated invading Iraq and occupying a
portion of the country in order to set up setting up a Vichy-style
puppet government. He consistently advocates going to war against
Iraq.

14). Ari Fleischer----Official White House Spokesman for the Bush
(Jr) Administration. Prominent in the Jewish community, some reports
state that he holds Israeli citizenship. Fleischer is closely
connected to the extremist Jewish group called the Chabad Lubavitch
Hasidics, who follow the Qabala, and hold very extremist and
insulting views of non-Jews. Fleischer was the co-president of
Chabad's Capitol Jewish Forum. He received the Young Leadership Award
from the American Friends of Lubavitch in October, 2001.

15). James Schlesinger-----One of many Pentagon Advisors, Schlesinger
also sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle and is
another extremist pro-Israel advisor, who supports going to war
against Iraq. Schlesinger is also a commissioner of the Defense
Department's National Security Study Group, at the Pentagon.

16). Mel Sembler-----President of the Export-Import Bank of the
United States. A Prominent Jewish Republican and Former National
Finance Chairman of the Republican National Committee. The Export-
Import Bank facilitates trade relationships between U.S. businesses
and foreign countries, specifically those with financial problems.

17). Michael Chertoff ----Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal
Division, at the Justice Department.

18). Joshua Bolten----Bush's Chief Policy Director, banker and former
legislative aide. Prominent in the Jewish community.

19). Steve Goldsmith----Senior Advisor to the President, and Bush's
Jewish domestic policy advisor. He also serves as liaison in the
White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives (White
House OFBCI) within the Executive Office of the President. He was the
former mayor of Indianapolis. He is also friends with Israeli
Jerusalem Mayor Ehud Olmert and often visits Israel to coach mayors
on privatization initiatives.

20). Adam Goldman-----White House's Special Liaison to the Jewish
Community.

21). Joseph Gildenhorn-----Bush Campaign's Special Liaison to the
Jewish Community. He was the DC finance chairman for the Bush
campaign, as well as campaign coordinator, and former ambassador to
Switzerland.

22). Christopher Gersten-----Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary,
Administration for Children and Families at HHS. Gersten was the
former Executive Director of the Republican Jewish Coalition, Husband
of Labor Secretary, Linda Chavez, and reportedly very pro-Israel.
Their children are being raised Jewish.

23). Mark Weinberger-----Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Tax
Policy.

24). Samuel Bodman-----Deputy Secretary of Commerce. He was the
Chairman and CEO of Cabot Corporation in Boston, Massachusetts.

25). Bonnie Cohen-----Under Secretary of State for Management.

26). Ruth Davis-----Director of Foreign Service Institute, who
reports to the Office of Under Secretary for Management. This Office
is responsible for training all Department of State staff (including
ambassadors).

27). Lincoln Bloomfield-----Assistant Secretary of State for
Political Military Affairs.

28). Jay Lefkowitz-----General Counsel of the Office of Budget and
Management.

29). David Frum-----White House speechwriter.

30). Ken Melman-----White House Political Director.

31). Brad Blakeman------White House Director of Scheduling.

32). Colin Powell-----Secretary of State, ex-chairman of Joint Chiefs
of Staff, of Jamaican origin, he has one Jewish ancestor on his
father's side. He grew up in a heavily Jewish-populated neighborhood
in New York, and speaks Yiddish. The first day of being picked
(12/16/2000) he said he wanted to toughen sanctions on Iraq, and will
work to "re-energize the sanctions regime," even though he knows the
embargo has killed 2 million Iraqi civilians.

Now that Bush has hired these pro-Israel Jewish lobbyists to the
highest positions in the land, they have escalated the fanatical war-
mongering against Iraq, all the while they support the Israeli war-
criminal Sharon in his terrorism and mass-killings of Palestinian
civilians. It seems that the price of the acheiving the White House
involves selling out to the Israeli lobby, much like Clinton, before
him.

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Posted by: Rambo

Ah Geez.

Another one of these very long and meaningless copy and pastes from an anti-Coalition zealot.

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Posted by: iudoe

Rambo,
great to have you back - how you been?

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Posted by: Rambo

quote:
great to have you back - how you been?


I'm doing great - how have you been?
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Posted by: iudoe

oh you know - musn't grumble

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Posted by: Rambo

quote:
oh you know - musn't grumble


Yeah, you musn't - Did you pick many poppy seeds today?
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Posted by: iudoe

Now that's more like it - chuckle chuckle

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Posted by: Rambo

Well, other than your nose - What did you pick today?

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Posted by: zid

Well, finally one pro-peace person has come forth with what I (only from what I have read here...maybe others have posted regarding this...I'm not discrediting anyone on previous posts) believe is a large reason why we are in Iraq, not the entire reason, but a large part of why we are there.

Yes, I would believe that we are there to "defend" Israel. Though our two countries have had our "differences" in the past, we are allies and have been for quite some time now.

But...there can be "potentially" good things that can come out of this reasoning and not all encompassing in the favor of Israel, unfortunately for them.

If this conflicts outcome is in favor of the the Alliance of Nations to oust Saddam, I believe, the US will "mandate" a cease fire between Israel and Palistine. GWB Jr. is an opportunist, though some believe him to be a "dumb Texan" (and in some sense he may be), but he isn't stupid. He holds no allegiance or true commitment to anyone, in a sense, except to him and the US (though alot of Pro-Peace activists may disagree with me on that last statement). He, I believe is the type of person and leader that loathes feeling as if he "owes" anyone anything. Once there is no threat from Iraq (as in Israel will not be able to say that Iraq is a threat to them), the disputed lands/territories will be divided in some fashion that "both" sides (Israel/Palestine) can at least deal with it. Neither side will come away from it truely happy or satisfied...but something that each side can comprise and live with....as long as each side are not "hell bent" on attempting to erradicate each other off of this map.

When this happens, I feel that the US' alliance with Israel will come to a somewhat end as they will feel, in a sense, betrayed. At that point, if Israel decides to attack anyone, I'm not so certain that the US will come to its side (if GW is still in office, which I doubt he will be). The US would have effectively erradicated Israel's greatest threat...Syria will be hard pressed to attempt anything w/o knowing that Iraq could/would support them...Palestine will have, in a sorts, a land and nation of their own...Saudi's will be contempt with making their billions off of their oil...Egypt, militarily cannot compete with Israel alone, and will lay contempt with the situation and they really have no need to wage conflict with Israel...Jordan also does not have the military power to go it alone.

It would be, in my opinion, a checkmate and cutting of the umbilical cord of the US from Israel. GW will feel, in his mind, a huge weight to be removed from the shoulders of the US.

Just my opinion...

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Posted by: NothingSacred

Finally? Iuodo is NOT the 1st to come up with this zid! No offense to either of you, but have you read any of the posts that I've put forth?...go search the web for the article "Buchanan accuses Zionists of Warmongering". I've posted it here TWICE.

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