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| Posted by: Rambo | | You missed the most important question. A question even more relevent to Operation Iraqi Freedom than the ones you just cited.
That question is: Is there a Santa Claus? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: zid | | Well...here's how I see it pecking down your bullets...
1. Maybe...but then again I haven't seen any real proof backing up either side.
2. From what I have read/seen.....I would have to say...Yes But then again, did Iraq come completely clean, in regards to the documents which it was "required" to submit?
3. No
4. Not directly...but then again any resolution that the US/UK/Spain would have proposed was doom to fail by Vetoes even before it was read. So we don't know the answer to that question.
5. No, the US did not "break" the UN. The UN, along with NATO, has been in a status of "endangerment" every since the cold war came to an end. I feel that the UN should be renamed to something more like...."The World Support Organization".
Essentially, all that it has the power to effectively and collectively do (even prior to this current conflict) in the past several years are to "support" countries devasted in the aftermath of natural disasters and conflicts. It has done that pretty well.
If your questions were as simple as a Yes or No....we wouldn't be in THIS situation or there would never be any conflict anywhere on this earth. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Edward Teach | |
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Originally posted by nowar
when we try to speak about facts, launch a discussion and args our point of view we are always asked to answer with a yes or a no .
so answer by yes or no,
- Did the U.S. war against Iraq is planned long before 911 ?
- Did U.S. gov used fake documents to build the case against Iraq ?
- Is 1441 and all other related resoltuions are about the overthrow of Iraq regime ?
- Did Iraq attacked U.S. ?
- Did U.S./U.K./Spain proposed a new resolution against Iraq to be voted which would have legitilmate the overthrow of Saddam ?
- Did U.S. broke the Geneva convention ?
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These questions can not be answered fairly with a Yes or no answer.
1. Who know's when the US started to plan for this war. The military plans a war in all parts of the world including in the U.S. It is unfair to say that they would not plan for war in this area of the world.
2. I don't believe that the said "Fake Documents" were the only thing used to build a case. There were many other factors.
3. No - He failed to disarm.
4. Why propose a new resolution when it was clear that it was going to veto'd anyway. Besides there was no need for a new resolution.
5. No - Did Iraq?
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| Posted by: Rambo | |
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| These questions can not be answered fairly with a Yes or no answer. |
That is precisely why he is asking them like that.
I'm telling ya, I wasn't kidding when I said earlier that this guy 'nowar' is operating from some remote Al-Qada occupied cave.
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| Posted by: nowar | | it's not about "possibly" neither "if needed", it's yes or no, no args please.
Seems quite difficult to answer like that guys ......
so stop asking the people which args against the reason of that war to answer by a Yes or a No.
It's never black or white .................
and for Caps#1, ****, you don't read newspaper for the fake docs, and browse the forum and you will see that they broke the Geneva convention ........ | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Rambo | | From his remote Al-Qada cave out there in the Middle East... Al-Qada agent 'nowar' states:
"it's not about "possibly" neither "if needed", it's yes or no, no args please."
followed with...
"It's never black or white"
The irony almost made me fall over in my chair in laughter. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: zid | | I never did ask for a "yes or no" from anyone here...
But you, however, have and just did so with this post. You, yourself even answered the questions to start off with. It is, in your mind, very much so "black or white". Anyone against or differing from your thoughts are "wrong".
I am mainly here to express my idea and to debate...I care not for right or wrong...
I have the liberty to debate freely and express my ideas, unfortunately, not everyone is allowed that opportunity. The country I live in and support, through actions of peace and war, makes it possible for me to express my views freely, w/o the threat persecution. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: nowar | | so you never read my posts zid ....
I'm not black or white minded, in all my posts I use args and it end with:
did Iraq didn't comply with 1441, yes or no (usually it's Charles questions  )
is stated "severe consequences", yes or no
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so I did once to see reaction, now I know and those thinking it's only Yes or No, whatever the questions/args are,
are wrong ........ | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: nowar | | violate what ?
Geneva convention ?
did you saw my post with the photo from the CNN vids ?
and who is in charge of the censorchip of images ? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Sean Kelly | |
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Originally posted by nowar
.. you don't read newspaper for the fake docs, and browse the forum and you will see that they broke the Geneva convention ........ |
As for Geneva Conventions regarding display of POW's, I don't know about that.. it's possible, but I didn't see it. I'm not even familiar the legalities behind it, now the difference behind the U.S. and Iraq's supposed violations, IF they werer violations. Either way.. it's not terribly relevant for any purpose, really.
As for "faked docs" - I really wish this would just "go away' it doesn't make for useful conversation. Fine: we didn't have the evidence we thought we did regarding Saddam's pursuit of a nuclear arsenal, however we still know plenty about his objectives of building nuclear weapons from the past. Ultimately, we know he wants nuclear weapons. The documents were received in good faith and we initially had no reason to doubt them, but now we do. Big deal. Move on.
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Originally posted by nowar
.. so I did once to see reaction, now I know and those thinking it's only Yes or No, whatever the questions/args are wrong ........ |
You say you're not a binary thinker and yet it's also binary-mentality to argue that ALL questions must NOT be yes/no. Some questions are yes/no. Some questions are subjective.
Some of the questions you asked originally here CAN be answered with a yes/no. Some cannot.
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| Posted by: Edward Teach | | I think the Geneva Conventions doesn't specifically address POW's on TV. What it does address is public display and/or humiliation. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: nowar | |
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| As for "faked docs" - I really wish this would just "go away' it doesn't make for useful conversation. |
not useful for conversation ??
the one about the nuclear has been used in order to have a vote to go on war against Iraq
the others presented by Powell at UNSC were mainly fake, all that to legitimate the war against Iraq
and you say " it doesn't make for useful conversation"?
This shows how U.S. gov treat others, even U.N.
U.S. gov wanted that war, at any price for obscure reasons: Oil ? Mid-East control ?, Revenge ? but for sure, not the freedom of Iraqi people and not about a treat to U.S.
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