Tokien's villains

J.R.R. Tolkien Forum

This is a thread to discuss the Villianous, lowdown, rotten and otherwise evil characters in Tolkiens books.

I like Balrogs..not only do they look cool, they have powers to match. thought they seem to have a problem with fighting in high places, as they tend to fall. Of all the things Balrogs do, they fall the most, a grand total of 7 times.

Since the Balrogs live in pits and such, I would say it is Melkors fault for not teaching them how to fight in high places.

Melkor was the ultimate villain. He was greedy, resentful and power hungry.

yeah...he's my hero...erm...uh...
but yeah..i mean, he made the orcs, beat the snot out of the elves, ruined what middle earth shoulda been, and planted the seeds of distrust between elves and men.

I liked Glaurung the Worm............... are we discussing villains from only the Simlarillion you guys??

nope, any villanious feind that Tolkein made, be he from LOTR Silmarillion or the Hobbit, or even some of his other works...

Okay then Glaurung it is....... thanks Shadow

What about Eol the dark elf? He killed his wife! He was a pretty mean character.

or his son Maegelin, who betrayed Gondolin.

And had the hots for his cousin. eww! Unclean!

Celegorm and Curufin tried to usurp the throne of Nargothrond and Celegorm tried to wed Luthien Tinuviel against her will (or was it Curufin?) and they tried to kill Beren. That makes them Villains doesn't it?

Gollum is a boarder line villain because in the end he save Middle-Earth, ok so it was through his own greed but still.

Morgoth, the original villian. Creator of all things evil. He is the ultimate villian.

Do you know, it is proficised in Middle-Earth that Morgoth will return and there will begin Dagor Dagoreth, the final battle of the forces of Darkness and light, between Melkor and Manwe.

yes...the prophecy itself is the second Doom of Mandos. its his second prophecy regarding middle-earth, and it fortells of Melkors escape from the Walls of Night. In the end he will be defeated by Turin Turumbar, and the revenge of the line of Hurin will be accomplished, and Turin's Doom fullfilled.

I didn't know the Turin thing. Well I suppose it was either going to be Turin or Beren wasn't it.

AH! Feanor will return when Morgoth does that is the other one.