Not supporting? So you are foe or unamerican

Post-9/11 Era Forum

To summarize:
If you support Bush and you are a US citizen, then you are a good american.
If not supporting Bush and you are a Us citizen, then you are un-american.

If you do not agree with Bush and you are not an american citizen, then you are an ennemy.

Isn't it a bit extremist?

I think the French should publicly and loudly clarify their position to the world. Make sure it gets heard in the Middle East as well.

In the USA we are upset because your lack of support, and in fact active lobbying against the United States, looks more like a geopolitical powerplay (doesn't just look...). In addition, by undermining the legitimacy of US/Coalition actions to enforce 1441, arab people in the street perceive this as a sign of support. Saddam uses this as propaganda for his own people, and this war becomes one of defending home and hearth, instead of defending Saddam.

Your countries actions have made all the difference in the world's ability to confront tin pot dictators with a unified front.

And all of this just to make a power play.

I hope you are right and that there is no correlation between your denouncing of the enforcement of UN resolutions, and increased moral / Iraqi resistence. Time will tell. If you are wrong then the damage between our peoples will run deep. Saddam is enjoying this.

Precisely, and most people don't believe if you do not agree with the war you are unamerican. It is their right.

However, that does not mean that they should berate the troops in Iraq, now thats a totally different story.

Now stop making stuff up or just believing propoganda.

If for instance some actor says "I am against the war" and people stop seeing his movies or employers decide they do not want to be associated with him, that is their right as well.

Each is free to decide what he wants to do, it does not mean that they will be guarenteed no adverse reaction by anyone, but just that no bodily harm or threats can be made against them for their opinion (unlike sadam's regime where if you want to surrender or just get on with life and not fight the americans they will kill you).

Furthermore, France has the right to not agree with the US, but we have the right to disagree and do as we wish. Of course, we will not bomb you and all that, and if you thought that for an instant, get real. However, it also does not mean that Americans cannot voice their opinion by boycotting french goods or that they have to think highly of the French for their opinion and position.

frenchfries....dont you think that it was a serious flip flop on the part of your government....the wording of 1441 was very clear and ron ackerman even had a post about what your U.N. delgate had to say right before that vote..... ask him for the quote, its interesting

I think that the US citizens have a right to be upset with france over this mess that was created by france's determination to veto a further resolution....after all 1441 was very clear

however, as i've said before...americans have a very short memory and will forgive and forget very quickly, which they should...after all, it is a moot point to rehash what happend in the U.N. since the coalition has moved ahead

as to the american-unamerican question:
one of the great things about america is your right to disagree with your government....you are only unamerican when you willingly desert your country and offer aid to our enemies....the human shields that went to iraq should not be allowed back into the country, and that john walker guy that joined the taliban should be shot

i personally think that those who leave the country in order to avoid a military draft should not be allowed back either...as an american you can disagree all you want to, but the ability to disagree was paid for by the blood of alot of good men and we should all be willing to die for our children to have those same rights...i wont argue about our troops risking thier lives so that the iraqi children can enjoy freedom....it is what peace loving people do....its just a shame that so much bitterness had to be stirred up over it....we are only trying to do what we belive to be right

****To summarize:
If you support Bush and you are a US citizen, then you are a good american.
If not supporting Bush and you are a Us citizen, then you are un-american.

If you do not agree with Bush and you are not an american citizen, then you are an ennemy.****


I would just have to say "no" it does not change who you are or what you are. Blowing yourself or something up to injure other people in spite of the war would change that though.