Discovery Channel - Covert Action

Iraq Forum

The Discovery Channel has a new show called Covert Action. It is reenactments from actual Covert Actions documentation, they change the names to protect people.

I watched it for the first time the other night. It as about an Iraqi Code administrator. A person that encrypts messages.

This Coder walked into the American Embassy in Rome back in February of 2003. I remember that an Iraqi delegation was visiting the Pope about that time. He revealed information of Iraqi Secret Police getting ready to meet to plot to conduct terrorist attacks on the west and wanted asylum in exchange for the location. As the CIA was working on that this Iraqi Coder got orders to go to Lybia which is where the Iraqi meeting was taking place. Once he got to Lybia he met with 2 more CIA operatives who worked out a plan to get him out of Lybia by simulating his death. Then once out he would reveal the exact location of the meeting. Once they had him removed they found out where the meeting was taking place and knew that they had only hours to do something.

Not far from Lybia was a US ship with a Navy Seal Team, they sent in the Seal Team to gather intelligence of that meeting. Traveling in darkness for 4 hours the Seal Team finally found the house exactly where the Iraqi Coder said it was. Upon listening to the meeting they heard that they were sending out Iraqis to conduct Terrorist attacks in Seatle and the American Embassy in Frankfurt. At that time the CIA got orders from President Bush to eliminate the threat. (Take them out) So the Seal Team went in an took out the Iraqis.

Upon looking over the documents they got from the meeting they discovered that a pro coalition Muslim Cleric would be assassinated in London. They then prevented the assassination attempt.

All this happened at the end of February of 2003.

If you get a chance to watch that show, it is very interesting with interviews of actual CIA or Special Forces operatives.

O.O That is interesting - wish i had cable or my SAT worked (appears that my LMB is not functioning properly)

I have to see if that is on in the UK yet I love programs like that.

It's on the Discovery Channel, if you know someone who has a satellite dish, they might be able to record it for you.

hahahah - Untouchables - hahah "1959" lmfao - yeah, they changed a lot back then - or are you talking about 1993? Doesn't matter how about 1960? there was something then too - - it was fiction based off of Al capone and agents. pff - the COMIC book was better And i remember when it started, there was a disclaimer...something about it "not all being true- and names,places, and certain events being changed to protect certain things?" ???? hmmm, that tells you right off the bat - hey, something other then names were changed. **ding** little light must have been burnt out not to notice

it was based OFF someones life - that's just like - "War of the worlds" the movie is based off of Ancient drawings that people claim show UFOs were here .. oh yeah, Jesus was a clone. Do you believe that?

It doesn't matter were your from - all people lie, change, manipulate, and otherwise try to convince through anymeans they can find...that's life that must be lived.

I'm trying to figure out what would be the point in "Pounding sand." That would be no fun - you couldn't roll over.

But I can see dragons point there was a program here about the SAS and there covert or secret ops it turned out that a lot of it was heresay and rumour because in the UK the public do not know about covert ops and it is only members of COBRA who are informed and as for the SAS the governmnet is not informed of what they do, maybe things are diffrent in the US.

Not that much different, much of what the CIA, FBI, NSA, etc does is never released and some of that stuff is never known to residents of the white house (Meaning the president that everyone dislikes never knows about some stuff).
Because of two words "plausible deniability"

But if authorized to be released, which may be the case with the discovery channel ( I personally have never heard about discovery doing anything but trying to inform with the best they can) - then they would be authorized to tell the whole truth.

also, if its coming from the agents themselves, which Ron stated they were interviewing, it is possible that it is coming from their stories.

There are many things that Both our governments are probably doing right now, that we don't need to know about. Sometimes, they release information that I would rather have not known...
p.s. - i'm tossing my posts together because i'm at work, please excuse any misspells or what have you.

Try a little analysis folks. Just a little bit will work. The show had a Iraqi Code analyst defect in Rome in March of this year.

In March of this year a delegation of Iraqi's went to Rome.

There was a Terrorist Cell arrested in Seattle, There was a Terrorist Cell arrested in Frankfurt.

There was an assassination attempt on a Muslim Cleric in London. My wife remembers something mentioned about this in the news.

Now all we need to do is check to see if some Iraqis were killed in Lybia.

I remember the arrests

I don't remember having seen any detailed report in France on TV about recent french special ops interventions. Generally these things are not publicized - hot stuff. We just hear from time to time in some reliable newspaper that, for example, a Gaddafi's boat dedicated to gun running has sunk for some reason in some mediterranean harbour ... at least this is not the Rainbow warrior in Auckland ...
France - US relations are supposed to have deteriorated within the past months, but they keep pulling together in a lot of places. There are many things the public don't know about.

Noooooo!!!! You aren't getting all the NEWS???? Go Figure.

There is a lot that doesn't go out to the public and shouldn't.

Yeah but does this not go back to the issue that if the govts of the world do not think that the public should see these stories how in the hell is it being broadcast on the discoveryu channel?

It is like Bravo two zero evrybody thought that the soldiers story was the truth but it has only recently come out that a lot of it is fake and a lot of his story was cut out on govt orders, the point is when you are dealing with secrest srvice and spec ops you will never get the whole story only the one that has the big bangs and flahsy lights and the discovery channel only wants the latter anyways

I found out that they only had 2 shows. I recorded the first but errased it when I was finished. I have the second recorded but haven't watched it yet. I don't see that there are more coming and don't see that they are running reruns.

It depends on if it is de classified or not.

So it got out to the discovery channel and not the News?

It wasn't news, it was a reinactment of this;

Operation Rat Hole


As plans unfold for the invasion of Iraq, it becomes increasingly likely that Saddam Hussein will launch terrorist reprisals on American interests. All possible sources of information about Baghdad's plans are targeted for interception.

This was done by historian, H. Keith Melton, he is same guy who did the series on our special forces going into Afghanistan 2 DAYS AFTER 9-11.

From Discovery Channel's Covert Action site:
In the war against terrorism, the United States faces a whole new kind of enemy -- one that operates independently of any nation. The question that vexes the U.S. is not if the enemy will strike, but rather where and when. Delve into real CIA case files that detail risky, top-secret missions led by special operations teams -- intensely trained and armed with sophisticated technology -- whose goal is to eliminate these terrorist threats. For these elite few, failure is not an option. Through dramatic recreations of actual maneuvers, learn how CIA officers put their lives on the line to dismantle al-Qaeda's apparatus of terror.

So you are saying a U.S. raid into Libya has that stopped a terrorist raid has no news value?

Ron I read Melton's piece but there are a few things he has wrote that still have me questioning how accurate this is, the word are CIA ( is that like MI6?) and top secret , I mean how top secret is it if the CIA is handing over the info to TV companies.

Not all CIA operations are Top Secret. Some are Secret, some are Classified and some are Unclassified. Even if they are Top Secret, the Freedom of Information Act opens up documentation at various times. One thing that H. K. Melton does is of course change names and possibly places. Even though it was taken from actual case files, when they say Lybia it might mean Iran. If it says Puru it might be Columbia. We don't know for sure if the places are the places where these events happened. Maybe it is or maybe it isn't. All that we can say is THAT they happened. This is to protect the Covert Agents that are still active in the field. And it is why they show the interviews of those agents in the shadow so you can't see their faces. I am sure that he is able to present these events because he is so careful to keep the identies of those involved confidential.

I have this program recorded. If you want it I can mail it to you on a mini cd disc.