| Posted by: fuscia | | O.K. guys, we want to stay on topic as much as we can in the other threads. Here is a thread for you/us LOTR fans to discuss whatever. Enjoy.  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Lawless | | You can't have Fuscia's job... she's secure in her position!!!
If you're interested in becoming a moderator, we always accept applications
by clicking on the link at the bottom of the main page, "Become a moderator" | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Shadow Stalker | | awww...thats the only job i would enjoy having...well good for you! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Shadow Stalker | | hmm...i wouldn't go so far as to say i'm an expert on the subject...
i really do need to reread the silmarillion...i've forgotten most of it... | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: fuscia | | With all of the F names, you need to make a chart!
OH, I think I found the name of the mortal that sails to Valinor it was Amandil. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: fuscia | | Yeah! I took out the Silmarillion and skimmed a few chapters last night. I need to find time to read it again. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Shadow Stalker | | and Eressea isn't actually Valinor itself...appearently its an island right off Valinors coast...it has several cities...and it is inhabited by the elves...
but at the Faring Forth it will be drawn back in to the mortal lands again...signaling that the time of the Eldar is truly at an end. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: fuscia | | WOW! See Shadow, when you have kids, they just suck the intelligence out of you. I have a hard time remembering things since I became a mom.  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: fuscia | | Sadly, it is not an excuse. I used to have a fantastic memory, now, well, lets say that not all the old brain cells fire the way they used to do. Maybe I just need more caffeine.  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Shadow Stalker | | Tokien...for us its like a drug...and getting addicted to it is good.  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: billyisthebest | | it's a hallucinogen... you can be wisked away for a couple hours | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Heatherhobbit | | EWWWW! My guy friend is sitting here with me and he said Liv Tyler is like a drug for him...Viagra! Gross! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Heatherhobbit | | I refuse to repeat what he just said! Men are such horndogs! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Shadow Stalker | | sickening yes..but...wait...VIAGRA...oh forget that...thats nasty.... | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: peregr!n | | I just bought a copy of the Silmarillion and i have lost it!!!!!!!!!!!! aaaahhhhhh! i am terrible at that....anything that gets put down is lost...grrr | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Jokers_Harley | | Hahahahaha Peregr!n I'd lose my head if it wasn't attached to my body  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: fuscia | |
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peregr!n said this in post #29 :
I just bought a copy of the Silmarillion and i have lost it!!!!!!!!!!!! aaaahhhhhh! i am terrible at that....anything that gets put down is lost...grrr |
When you find it, let us know what chapter you are on. There are a few of us who have read it or re-reading it. We could start a discussion in here chapter by chapter if you like. Guys?
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| Posted by: Shadow Stalker | | interesting thought fuscia...i'm all for it..though chapter by chapter...hmmm...interesting...YEAH good idea... | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Jokers_Harley | | Sounds good to me Fuscia.......... lead on ohhhhhh intelligent-one!! 
~Erika~ | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Shadow Stalker | | hmmm...heres a question thats hotly disputed among LOTR fans..."do balrogs have wings?" i really don't care if they do or not...but what do ya'll think? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: fuscia | |
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Jokers_Harley said this in post #35 :
Sounds good to me Fuscia.......... lead on ohhhhhh intelligent-one!! Ha ha. Remember, I defer to Shadow on all things Tolkien. Seriously, he is the expert.
~Erika~ |
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| Posted by: Shadow Stalker | | well since your the one reading Silmarillion i'll defer to you in regards to that Fuscia...and i've never read the Lost Tales..though i have them... | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: fuscia | | I have not been able to find the lost tales yet. As for the Silmarillion, I have just re-read the first 5 or so chapters. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Jokers_Harley | |
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Shadow Stalker said this in post #36 :
hmmm...heres a question thats hotly disputed among LOTR fans..."do balrogs have wings?" i really don't care if they do or not...but what do ya'll think? |
*shivers* I am surprised that you are asking this Shadow, being the all-knowledgeable-one, when it comes to Tokien......... Yes Balrog's do have wings..if I remember correctly PJ even gave it to the one In Moira, didn't he? *running to read Enciclopedia*
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| Posted by: Shadow Stalker | | yes i know...i do believe them to have wings...however there are those who think the lines in the book were merely symbolism...i think...they talk about it on the Arda Encyclopedia. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Jokers_Harley | | Yes, it is in the Encyclopedia and it tells of them having wings
Passage from the History of Middle-Eart:
"swiftly they arose, and they passed with WINGED-speed over Hithlum, and they came to Lammoth as a tempest of fire"
guess that settles that, uh? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Shadow Stalker | |
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Jokers_Harley said this in post #42 :
Yes, it is in the Encyclopedia and it tells of them having wings
Passage from the History of Middle-Eart:
"swiftly they arose, and they passed with WINGED-speed over Hithlum, and they came to Lammoth as a tempest of fire"
guess that settles that, uh? |
or not...if you actually read all their arguments for and against you'll see that its wings probably weren't real. If it did have wings, the Balrog itself would be the size of a house at the minimum. He couldn't be this big and possibly fit into the Chamber of Mazarbul which was small. If he did have wings, they were more than likely just illusions made by the shadows that make up the monster. also..if they have wings...why don't they use them. Gandalf casts down his enemy (the balrog) and the balrog falls through the air...and smashes into the ground. Also in the Silmarillion, an elf and a Balrog fight on a mountain top, and both fall...if the balrog had wings...it would have used them to save itself...
and in regards to your post Erika...winged speed is being used metaphorically for something that moves quickly.
and then there's always the argument that the balrogs wings were useless...if it had them.
but of course we'll never know the answer as Tolkien is dead, and he did make mistakes even in his own books. i think the wings were more of shadowy illusions the balrogs could make...
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| Posted by: Jokers_Harley | | Yes yes I rad that afterwards (kinda hard doing all this from work you know) and it says that these were probably metaphorically............. although there is an argument that although the Balrog had wings, they had become useless after dwelling the cave for so long!! ......... I couldnt change it because the 1 hour limit had passed........
so I stand corrected Shadow
*bows and leaves*
~Erika~ | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: peregr!n | | i still havent found me copy of the Silmarillion!
did you know that Billy Boyd dropped his copy of lord of the rings in the swimming pool when he was reading it? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: peregr!n | | i still cant find it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im gonna buy a new one!
I dont know where it could have gone though! It cant have sprouted legs and gone walkies... | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Shadow Stalker | | why couldn't it have...my books walk around all the time...hey...get back here!! *runs off chasing book*
btw try and stay on topic...  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: peregr!n | | good point...i think half of my brain went on a holiday...a long time ago | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: fuscia | | REMEMBER, THIS IS THE OFF TOPIC THREAD. Please use it for your bantering and enjoy. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: adityamahesh | | Isn't Billy Boyd that Pippin guy? I sort of don't like him. But I suppose he is good for the role, being not so bright and all. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: fuscia | | Oh MM, you had better look out. Billy Boyd has quite a following, although, I don't know why.  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: adityamahesh | | Hey, I got nothing against the guy or his fans, I just don't like him, thats all. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: fuscia | | He was o.k. I know what you mean. I was just saying that he has a surprisingly large following.  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: adityamahesh | |
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peregr!n said this in post #46 :
i still havent found me copy of the Silmarillion!
did you know that Billy Boyd dropped his copy of lord of the rings in the swimming pool when he was reading it? |
I suppose he fell asleep?
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| Posted by: Shadow Stalker | |
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fuscia said this in post #61 :
He was o.k. I know what you mean. I was just saying that he has a surprisingly large following. |
all the actors seem to have surpisingly large followings...
i mean...come on, they're just people, albeit very talented ones.
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| Posted by: Heatherhobbit | | To appreciate Billy you have to watch the interviews in EE and on bonus features of the theatrical version. He seems to be a great person. He played the role of Pippin very well. Other than Frodo or possibly Aragorn, Pippin is the one most changed through the movie. People who understand this character have a great respect for any actor who can play him. Pippin is a comedic role only in Fellowship of the Ring. In Two Towers and Return of the King, his role becomes more heroic. When Pippin left the Shire he was only 27. According to Hobbits he is not yet an adult. In fact he has the maturity of a 14 or 15 year old human. He is "coming of age". We get to see him grow emotionally (and physically in the EE). Yes, he is just Frodo's little cousin that tags along in FOTR, but in TTT he is the one that gets the Ents to go to Isengard. Without Pippin the Ents would not have gone there and Saruman would have been allowed to go on. With Saruman still functioning, Frodo would have had no chance getting to Mount Doom. The mission probably would have failed. That's the first time you see the maturation of Pippin. When he tells Treebeard to turn around. That is the pivotal moment for the character. He goes from being immature and self focused, to seeing the big picture. He is a hero. And that heroism becomes even more apparent in ROTK. In my opinion the 3 main heroes in ROTK are Sam, Aragorn, and Pippin. The growth and change of Pippin is tremendous. It takes a good actor to do that. And Billy Boyd fans know that he doesn't have a lot of movie experience. All his acting experience is on stage. He made a great transition from stage to screen. Although he played the youngest hobbit, he is actually the oldest actor of the four. It takes a certain level of maturity to fully understand the role of Pippin. It's difficult to play a character that is both a hero and comic relief. Much respect should go to Billy Boyd. I think a lot of women love him, not just for his acting skills, but because he does seem like such a nice person, he is very attractive, and has a beautiful voice (yes, that is his real singing voice in the hall). | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: adityamahesh | | Okay, point taken heather. I would try to see him in a different perspective the next time I see any of the LOTR movies.  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Heatherhobbit | |
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Shadow Stalker said this in post #64 :
all the actors seem to have surpisingly large followings...
i mean...come on, they're just people, albeit very talented ones. |
I think the reason that the actors have such a large following is because they were able to bring these wonderful characters to the screen. They gave them faces and voices. From now on anytime I read LOTR those actors faces will be in my mind. They are all very talented. I like that none of them are really blockbuster actors either. That makes the viewers able to relate to them better.
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| Posted by: Heatherhobbit | |
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mmaheshwary said this in post #66 :
Okay, point taken heather. I would try to see him in a different perspective the next time I see any of the LOTR movies. |
I know I've already said this many times, but it deserves repeating. Reading the books will give you a whole new respect and understanding for the characters. And when you truly understand the characters, you have an appreication for any actor that can play the character so well, and make it so believable. I think that its impressive that Elijah, Sean A, Billy, Dominic, Viggo, Ian, John, Sean B, and Orlando were able to do these characters justice. Even most die hard Tolkein fans will agree that these actors remained true to their characters. At least as well as they could with the script that they were given.
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| Posted by: Jokers_Harley | |
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fuscia said this in post #63 :
Just curious, do you all know about the rewards program? |
Enlighten us Fuscia for I have heard a little of this but it still makes no sense to me
Erika
By the way: good morning everyone??? How were your weekends??
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| Posted by: peregr!n | | I cant believe its morning where you are! its like 5.15pm here and i have to go to NAVY cadets now! grrrrrr! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Jokers_Harley | | Hahahaha navy cadets Pippin??? UGH!!!! and yes it is 9:30am here right now.......... | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: fuscia | | The Rewards Program is detail under the Forum News and Announcements. It is basically a contest to gain points for good posts and ideas. The winner gets a month of a special access to new features. Check out the thread, it is pretty cool. I just wondered if people were looking at the Rewards Program, or even knew about it.
Good morning to you all. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Lawless | | Reward Points!
This is a great program. Please read the first post, by Marc Flemming.
This is a chance for you to each earn reward points, and also, for you to nominate your fellow members on here to receive points for a post they have done. If they receive reward points for a post, you will get a 'finders fee' of 5 points added to your reward collection.
We want to reward people for the time they spend on here, adding intelligent, well thought out commentary... for clearing up debates that take place throughout INReview.
Once per month, we will take the two top reward point winners, and give them a month as a platinum member. This will basically give you one month with many of the gold member priveledges. At the end of the year, someone will win a Diamond Membership for the entire year, and have a free 'gold membership' account for the next 12 months.
If you have more questions, please let either Sherry, or myself, know, and we will help out the best of our ability. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: adityamahesh | | Teasy, you are DEFINITELY not going to be nominated for reward points, buddy!!! And I think the mods might pay you a little visit too. So I suggest you edit your post. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Shadow Stalker | | well this is the OT thread...so who knows...i think he needs though... | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Teasy | | Yeah you guessed it right.. Shadow
I thought this was bit REALLY off the topic thread..
just teasing. take it tEasy. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: fuscia | | Just a note. Some of you have heard that I was making a stained glass Gandalf window. It is under A&E Creative forum, thread Fusicas stained glass art.  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Heatherhobbit | | I read about this program, but I highly doubt any of my lame posts will ever be nominated. It's a nice idea though. Thanks for the information.
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KJ said this in post #73 :
Reward Points!
This is a great program. Please read the first post, by Marc Flemming.
This is a chance for you to each earn reward points, and also, for you to nominate your fellow members on here to receive points for a post they have done. If they receive reward points for a post, you will get a 'finders fee' of 5 points added to your reward collection.
We want to reward people for the time they spend on here, adding intelligent, well thought out commentary... for clearing up debates that take place throughout INReview.
Once per month, we will take the two top reward point winners, and give them a month as a platinum member. This will basically give you one month with many of the gold member priveledges. At the end of the year, someone will win a Diamond Membership for the entire year, and have a free 'gold membership' account for the next 12 months.
If you have more questions, please let either Sherry, or myself, know, and we will help out the best of our ability. |
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| Posted by: Lawless | | Heather, I always say... never say never. Because, you just never know.  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: peregr!n | | 
I have 3 pieces of homework to be done for tomorrow and it is already 8.10pm.
They can wait.
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| Posted by: Heatherhobbit | | Geez, I'm reading some of the posts from this thread and I'm really glad that teasy guy didn't stick around. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: peregr!n | | I thought that earlier!
And, yeah, I still have 2 and a half weeks of school left! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: peregr!n | | Because our stupid government think we only need 6 weeks for summer holiday. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: MistyRainWater6 | |
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heather15644 said this in post #87 :
Geez, I'm reading some of the posts from this thread and I'm really glad that teasy guy didn't stick around. |
What teasy guy? 
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| Posted by: fuscia | | I saw Dom on I Love the 90's. He looks really cute! I was very surprised at how cute he is when he is not playing a hobbit.  | | Reply To this Message
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