Observation - Attacks on Bush and the USA

Post-9/11 Era Forum

I wonder if you can help me understand this...

I've read a lot of the threads in the forum and have noticed that most if not all the anti-war folks seem to blast President Bush, the Government and the US in general with how much they hate our President and our country. They call us names and say how stupid we are. However the pro-war folks are not saying anything about Chirac, France, Schroeder, Germany, Putin and Russia. In fact even with Saddam it seems that the most we do is call him a brutal tyrant and call him bad.

There is a lot of space taken up with the anti-war folks trying as hard as they can to justify their side by bringing up things that the US has done in the past. I have not seen anyone mount a credible defence of Saddam or his regiem. Why is that?

Why? Because they can't defend Saddam.
They can't say that Saddam didn't have WMD.
They can't say that Saddam didn't use WMD.
They can't say that Saddam didn't continue to deceive the UN Weapons inspectors.
They can't say the he disarmed.
They can't say that he cared for his own people.

Maybe it's time for us pro-war folks to start digging up dirt on France, Germany and Russia.

Another thing...

it's a matter of debate if the Bush administration's war against terrorism/saddam/axis of evil/american economy/UN legitimacy/International Law/civilians...etc is justified if Saddam does have WMD.
So before we draw conclusions, let's ask for proof...when we have the proof, let's go to the proper authority...when we go to the proper authority...let's act like human beings...

Wars and Battles are won and lost because of secrecy.
If the coalition discloses that WMD heve been found, it will open the door for Saddam to actualy use them. He would have nothing to lose because he doesn't care about killing his own people This will likely kill thousand of inocent people that he is using as shields. The "Use 'em or lose 'em" phylosphy applies in this case.
To protect the people and the coalition, you will not hear anything from the coalition unless it leaks out via the news media.

We don't know if they have been discovered or not.
We do know he has made them and has used them.
We do know he hasn't used them agianst the coalistion yet.

Bush Sucks! Here's the comparison...

Economy

Bush - Downward Spiral
Clinton - Economic Boom

World Affairs

Bush - Blown to Pieces
Clinton - Time of Peace

Sex

Clinton - BJs in the oval office from Monica.
Bush - Bend over George the Neocons want to screw America.

I'm not sure I agree with the use them or lose them theory. Saddam cares nothing for the people in his country and because of his hate for the American people I don't think he would give using his WMD a second thought...if he has them. The question still is, "Does he in fact have them? " You are absolutely right, he's had them and used them in the PAST, but we are talking about WMDs that inspectors did not find in MONTHS. Surely, they couldn't be hid that good.
As for Saddam and Bush both being "bad guys", with that I will agree. No, I don't get all warm and fuzzy when I see Bush on television, I can't stand the man and YES I want him out of office. I believe Bush to be a warmonger and a power hungry little man who is willing to say and do anything to prove "his point" of view.

Did you have to mention Clinton?....that sad sack of cow dung.
He really let our country go to the shits.

Goots, you are quoting "speculation" as if all the "differing" and ever changing news reports are absolute law. Keep in mind the vast majority of what you are hearing and seeing is well geared through a receptive audience...this means you. Over 90% of what I've heard has been speculation to what our forces are doing and how Saddam's troops will respond. The only thing news reporters can do is get in the way and speculate. Frankly, I don't believe our troops should be spending time trying to protect the *?#$!* of news reporters who "never get it right" to start with. I put little faith in what I hear from the "Generals", the Pentagon, news media and not to mention Bush as to what is really going on in Iraq. You would be wise to do the same!

Dear Bushfan:
I would put the "sad sack of cow dung" up against that ferret faced lying manipulating ferret faced nitwit Georgie W. any day of the week and twice on Sunday. I would run no gallop to the polls to re-elect Clinton ALL over again. Many have vowed to make Bush a "one" term president and his little brother from Florida won't be able to screw the American people out of a legimate presidental election!

USA47, I think you should change it to Trader#1. You are really really really sad if you think gutless, spineless, nutless clinton was better suited to run this country. Your ass would be in a bomb shelter somewhere fighting to survive if that crap rag was still in charge.

Hey Bush fan? Are you better off now, than you where 4 years ago?

Enough said! EVERYTHING SUCKS since Bush took over! EVERYTHING!

Hey nothingsacred? yes i am better off now. As long as I live in the United States of America, i am better off!! President Bush didnt ceate your pestimistic attitude. Long Live President Bush!

No he didn't. All he did was ruin our economy, force us into an unneeded war, strip us of civil rights, ruin our relationship with many traditional allies, foster an atmosphere of corporate corruption...shall I go on?

It would have been better if Laura had caught him getting a blow job in the Oval Office instead!

When history looks back on Bush, he'll be considered one of the worse presidents ever. The odds will be better that we'll see Clinton's **** on Mt. Rushmore than Bush's head...

you have got to be kidding me, if Clinton had done the right thing the first time we would not be at war right now, if clinton had not given away all of our secrets maybe we wouldn't have had to go to war now, you make me sick Nothingsacred, LONG LIVE BUSH

And I defend your right to be as sick as you are...

Hey nothingsacred, Just Leave! Thats all there is too it!! If you truely are that unhappy, if you feel as if you have been striped of your rights, why are you still here. Leave. Its that simple.

I agree with BushFan, why don't you move nothingsacred, you are not a true American. In your messages you dump on every thing about this country and most of th
e time make no serious claim at all. As for the comment made from Guyfrompakistan you said you woud join us if you saw WMD. Even though I hope we don't, I think with Saddam starting to get backed in a corner it might just happen. As sad as that might it ,if does happen, I expect you will be the first to post and say you were wrong.

Bushfan, its obvious you are [AN INSULT] who thinks he is still trying to tame the WILD west. To avoid war makes you [INSULTED]? To seek alternative means to avoid death, destruction and a peaceful means of reaching resolution makes you spineless? You are an [INSULT] but more importantly you have no value for human life. Grow a Brain!

USA47 [UNECESSARY INSULT]. I never said avoiding war made you nutless and gutless. Walking away from it maybe? Running away while crying, you betcha! Turing your head away from it is a disgrace. Buy some more tissues.

1st on all, I've said nothing anti-American in any of my posts. I don't agree with the Bush Administration's ideology and world view- that's not anti-American. As a TRUE American, it's my duty to try and get the word out before the next election, so hopefully Bush can go back to his ranch and shovel his horse-dung there.

2ndly, it really is funny when I hear people say things have been better with Bush than they where with Clinton? And it's all because ole Billy got his willy waxed...that is funny.

Remember people, it's not un-American do disagree, It's un-American to be intolerant of disagreement...so wake up fascist Bushites...your ways aren't what George Washington fought for.