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Posted by: Caps#1

This came into my email, thought I would share my response!

"The war have started,are you happy and satisfied now? I don't know what can i say to you,you are very brainwashed and you don't understand." - Dina

And My Response

I am sorry to say but there is brainwashing and you are the victim. Look online for all of the crimes committed by Saddam against his people. It is not a conspiracy. Maybe I can help can you follow SIMPLE logic, if so we will get your eyes open.


Saddam was supposed to disarm after 1991, correct (THIS is FACT)

Saddam kicked the inspectors out of the country (THIS is FACT)

Saddam was FORCED to allow them back into the country (THIS is FACT)

The documentation provided by Saddam was missing data (THIS is FACT)

UN Inspectors found modified missiles that were not supposed to exist (THIS is FACT)
UN Inspectors were NOT allowed to speak with scientists alone, families were held by Saddam while they were being spoken too (THIS is FACT)
Stupid countries like Germany and France say (so there is a little bit of arms, it is okay) (THIS is FACT)
Just last night, IRAQ launched a SCUD (NO WAY IS THIS ALLOWED BY THE UN ACCORDS) towards Kuwait (THIS is FACT) Okay so now you think so we should be like you and ignore this, WRONG!


Saddam has time and time again said we have NO weapons of mass destruction, we destroyed them (THIS is FACT)
The UN has NO PROOF of them having been destroyed (THIS is FACT)
Last night Saddam launched a weapon that doesn't exist. (THIS is FACT)

You just need to look at facts, none of what I said is desputed not even by the stupid french and germans. These are FACTS, and if you look at them you will know, what is in your mind is propaganda, given to weak minded fools who are no more than sheep.

I have seen you try and think, so I know you can just look at fact and you can see where your thoughts, and actual facts do not meet in the middle. So you have to assume, you are misled.

Simple as that. There is a HUGE campaign to play tricks with people like you, it is simple to do. The only way to open your eyes is you have to in your mind grasp facts and see if they match your thinking, in this case they do not, and you will know where you should stand.

This isn't about America vs Iraq, this is about people dying at the hands of a madman with the means, the drive, and the ability to wreak havoc worldwide because he is beyond reproach. This cannot be allowed, the Iraqi people need a chance to live as free men and women, to have children that can grow up and be children, not live in fear, pain and hunger while Saddam has billion dollar mansions. This is not right. It never will be, surely you can see beyond propoganda, and let me tell you when you do, the world will welcome you into peace, for you will tell another, there is a time for doing what is RIGHT!

We are there now.

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This came into my email, thought I would share my response!

"The war have started,are you happy and satisfied now? I don't know what can i say to you,you are very brainwashed and you don't understand." - Dina

And My Response

I am sorry to say but there is brainwashing and you are the victim. Look online for all of the crimes committed by Saddam against his people. It is not a conspiracy. Maybe I can help can you follow SIMPLE logic, if so we will get your eyes open.


Saddam was supposed to disarm after 1991, correct (THIS is FACT)

Saddam kicked the inspectors out of the country (THIS is FACT)

Saddam was FORCED to allow them back into the country (THIS is FACT)

The documentation provided by Saddam was missing data (THIS is FACT)

UN Inspectors found modified missiles that were not supposed to exist (THIS is FACT)
UN Inspectors were NOT allowed to speak with scientists alone, families were held by Saddam while they were being spoken too (THIS is FACT)
Stupid countries like Germany and France say (so there is a little bit of arms, it is okay) (THIS is FACT)
Just last night, IRAQ launched a SCUD (NO WAY IS THIS ALLOWED BY THE UN ACCORDS) towards Kuwait (THIS is FACT) Okay so now you think so we should be like you and ignore this, WRONG!


Saddam has time and time again said we have NO weapons of mass destruction, we destroyed them (THIS is FACT)
The UN has NO PROOF of them having been destroyed (THIS is FACT)
Last night Saddam launched a weapon that doesn't exist. (THIS is FACT)

You just need to look at facts, none of what I said is desputed not even by the stupid french and germans. These are FACTS, and if you look at them you will know, what is in your mind is propaganda, given to weak minded fools who are no more than sheep.

I have seen you try and think, so I know you can just look at fact and you can see where your thoughts, and actual facts do not meet in the middle. So you have to assume, you are misled.

Simple as that. There is a HUGE campaign to play tricks with people like you, it is simple to do. The only way to open your eyes is you have to in your mind grasp facts and see if they match your thinking, in this case they do not, and you will know where you should stand.

This isn't about America vs Iraq, this is about people dying at the hands of a madman with the means, the drive, and the ability to wreak havoc worldwide because he is beyond reproach. This cannot be allowed, the Iraqi people need a chance to live as free men and women, to have children that can grow up and be children, not live in fear, pain and hunger while Saddam has billion dollar mansions. This is not right. It never will be, surely you can see beyond propoganda, and let me tell you when you do, the world will welcome you into peace, for you will tell another, there is a time for doing what is RIGHT!

We are there now.




This came into my email, thought I would share my response!

"The war have started,are you happy and satisfied now? I don't know what can i say to you,you are very brainwashed and you don't understand." - Dina

And My Response

I am sorry to say but there is brainwashing and you are the victim. Look online for all of the crimes committed by Saddam against his people. It is not a conspiracy. Maybe I can help can you follow SIMPLE logic, if so we will get your eyes open.


Saddam was supposed to disarm after 1991, correct (THIS is FACT)

Saddam kicked the inspectors out of the country (THIS is FACT)

Saddam was FORCED to allow them back into the country (THIS is FACT)

The documentation provided by Saddam was missing data (THIS is FACT)

UN Inspectors found modified missiles that were not supposed to exist (THIS is FACT)
UN Inspectors were NOT allowed to speak with scientists alone, families were held by Saddam while they were being spoken too (THIS is FACT)
Stupid countries like Germany and France say (so there is a little bit of arms, it is okay) (THIS is FACT)
Just last night, IRAQ launched a SCUD (NO WAY IS THIS ALLOWED BY THE UN ACCORDS) towards Kuwait (THIS is FACT) Okay so now you think so we should be like you and ignore this, WRONG!


Saddam has time and time again said we have NO weapons of mass destruction, we destroyed them (THIS is FACT)
The UN has NO PROOF of them having been destroyed (THIS is FACT)
Last night Saddam launched a weapon that doesn't exist. (THIS is FACT)

You just need to look at facts, none of what I said is desputed not even by the stupid french and germans. These are FACTS, and if you look at them you will know, what is in your mind is propaganda, given to weak minded fools who are no more than sheep.

I have seen you try and think, so I know you can just look at fact and you can see where your thoughts, and actual facts do not meet in the middle. So you have to assume, you are misled.

Simple as that. There is a HUGE campaign to play tricks with people like you, it is simple to do. The only way to open your eyes is you have to in your mind grasp facts and see if they match your thinking, in this case they do not, and you will know where you should stand.

This isn't about America vs Iraq, this is about people dying at the hands of a madman with the means, the drive, and the ability to wreak havoc worldwide because he is beyond reproach. This cannot be allowed, the Iraqi people need a chance to live as free men and women, to have children that can grow up and be children, not live in fear, pain and hunger while Saddam has billion dollar mansions. This is not right. It never will be, surely you can see beyond propoganda, and let me tell you when you do, the world will welcome you into peace, for you will tell another, there is a time for doing what is RIGHT!

We are there now.

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Posted by: Grimminick

Caps are you sure about the SCUD launch. On the British media they said they wondered if a SCUD had been launched and fell into the sea but there wsa no proof. Are you hearing something different?

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Posted by: MikeXXL

Grimminick,

go to http://www.indict.org.uk/index.php and try and tell me there is not enough evidence to depose Saddam and his brutal regime.

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Posted by: Grimminick

Mike....I didn't!!

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Posted by: Caps#1

this is not mine, I copied it off of a website, and no I am not sure, is anyone else having this runtime problem?

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Posted by: cpq

I'd love to see the same in-depth and verbose post comparing other current UN resolutions being ignored/snubbed, the reasons behind those and how they compare to this whole Iraqi fiasco. And while you're at it, how about some veto history of the permanent members of the security council (how many times used, when and over what proposed resolution).

Sorry, but the statistical schooling in me hates to look at just one variable.....maybe there are other more legitimate cases for war going by the same 'fact' sheet as Caps'.

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Posted by: bellagirldee

Y2k anti war hippies suck!

Go Dubyah Go !

Kick Saddam's bum!

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Posted by: Grimminick

The anti-war prorestors ae not hippies. This is not some 1960's fad. The amazing thing about this protest is that the protestors come from all walks of life, from across the generations, from war veterans to students, conservatives, labour and lib dems (British) and from across the globe. A great many people who have never protested before in their lives (British media reports) have made a stand. America is being watched like never before.

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Posted by: Charles

quote:
Originally posted by Grimminick
The anti-war prorestors ae not hippies. This is not some 1960's fad. The amazing thing about this protest is that the protestors come from all walks of life, from across the generations, from war veterans to students, conservatives, labour and lib dems (British) and from across the globe. A great many people who have never protested before in their lives (British media reports) have made a stand. America is being watched like never before.


It sounds so romantic - but be honest - the VAST majority of protesters are young kids, malcontents, and conspiracy types.

We've seen them - painted faces, hoping for peace, banging drums, smoking pot, laughing and playing.

Its a fact that people feel good - the dopamine gets cranking - when they act as part of a group. I would dare to call some "protest junkies" - who regularly protest anything from environmental issues to abortion to free trade, ...

Take a look at some of their signs.
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Posted by: DrPoke

quote:
Originally posted by bellagirldee
Y2k anti war hippies suck!

Go Dubyah Go !

Kick Saddam's bum!


.......so you're not over there then fighting, no, you are sitting on your big ar se while others do the dirty work for you
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Posted by: Grimminick

Charles,
I attended the anti-war march in London and people from EVERY walk of life WERE there. To believe that this is all about pot smoking hippies is so very wrong and if you are relying on that as part of your argument then you need to think again. One part of the anti-war protest was made by a large group of lawyers (hardly immature hippies) who served a notice agianst Tony Blair wraning him that to go to war was illegal. Ordinary people were the vast majority in London that day. Normal, ordinary people.

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Posted by: Charles

Certainly not all protesters are dumb kids/hippies - but many are!

OJ simpson paid for a good lawyer and he is free. I'll bet you could find lawyers to argue any side of the case.

On what basis do they claim this action to be illegal?

I'm reasonable. I would be happy to review their arguments.

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Posted by: Grimminick

I would still argue with your contention that "many are". If London was anything to go by then quite simply many aern't. Most aern't. I don't think London could find a majority of hippies in a crowd of one million people. I don't know the clauses and sub-clauses of the legal document the lawyers filed, not being a lawyer myself. All i know was that a group of lawyers presented it to Tony Blair at Downing Street.

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Posted by: mtliveingtree

That was great caps, looks like you did your homework. This is good. As far as y2k hippies i am a hippy but also spent 10 yrs in the service for my country and my son is in now, so that hippie crack is a way out there remark and isnt even plyable in this time and period of our society...lol... saddam is a terriost and a killer of his own people. The problim with all of these pansy, sighn toteing whimps is to too lazy to get off there bums to get the right information and open there eyes. Saddam is crazy and mad and he WILL gas on our soilders over there when he is finally trapped and cornered. They have found to much eveidence as of lately pointing in that direction of this. Antidotes for chemicle weapons, chemicle weapons suit, and information the us/uk has been trying to tell us all, what is all of your problims, you all ******* stupid and blind or what. Get over the whineing and whimpering, its done with we are there now so forget about your selfish selfs, grab your balls and get behind your country and troops and thank the troops for your freedom and thank them for not letting saddam gas and stick a gun to your head or the heads of your children. Thank our soilders for giveing there lives so you dont have to worry about sending your kids to school with gas masks and worrying about them being grabbed on the way home from school for a shield or being shot for there beleife of what music they like or just haveing an opion of there own......you people discuss me hideing behind other people that are dieing for you while you are putting them down. You have no consious or love for life and freedom. You think your the only ones that deserve freedom and protection from people like saddam and ben laden. Give them, the iraqs a chance to taste freedom and for what it stands for.

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Posted by: Canuck

I think you just got the record for the most spelling errors in a single message. Are you by any chance a product of the American education system?

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Posted by: mtliveingtree

my spelling may be not to good but the meaning of my letter is very strong and to the point, is that all you got to say is my spelling is bad....lmao...good argument....sounds like you dont have nothing else to do like the anti-war pansies but nit pick some elses spelling in stead of comeing up with a reasonable statement. Back your country and your soilders and pray for them and there safe return and a quick end to this but first kill sadam and his leadres/family so we the world never has to deal with his likes again....... :-).....then the world will be alittle safer to live in for your children and the rest of us for time to come.

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Posted by: Canuck

My point is that the rabid pro-war arguments always seem to be posted by people that don't seem to have much in the way of an education. Of course I hope and pray for the success and safety of the coalition forces. I just regret that they had to go to Iraq in the first place. I firmly believe that the situation could have been resolved with diplomacy. At the very least diplomacy should have been given a fair shake prior to declaring war. Saddam is evil. That's a given. However, in the world we live in the international community does not accept that as an invitation for war. This is why the isolation from the traditional allies. This action could cause repercussions to be felt by the U.S. for many years to come. That is what creates the risk that this war will actually make the world a more dangerous place for my children to grow up in, and that's what scares me. I do respect your opinion, but I can't agree with it.

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Posted by: mtliveingtree

what do you except the people of the world to do and the people of iraq to do. Keep dieing and us forget them because they are in another country? Wheres the justification for that and i spent ten yrs in service myself. Communications i just type to fast and dont reread my statements sorry there but fact remains the same, let him live and kill more innicent people perhaps the united states sometime. think about it, we take our freedom for granite and it shouldnt be, alot of our men, women and children have died for the freedom we enjoy now. Which is what we are trying to achieve the same for the iraqs. give them a chane and taste of freedom. Why should just a certain few enjoy it. Maybe if this war turns out for the good maybe the other countrys might start likeing the idea of freedom also. No one knows the outcome of this war but hopefully this is the road this war takes for the good of all islam. god bless everyone and our soilders

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Posted by: Charles

Hippy is a colorful word.

I have seen the protests (on our state run propaganda TV) and I saw fewer adults and mostly young people. What did Churchill say? If you are young and not liberal you have no heart, if you are old and not conservative you have no brain?

Seriously. Most of these protests are made up from young liberals. Honestly now Grimm.

What is your position on this conflict? It seems you are against. Why?

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Posted by: loft

CAps#1
Under your name you write "veteran". Can I polite ask you if you have fought in any war?
Also I totally agree that Saddam needs to be removed. But definately not by destroying a country. It is like when your head is in pain. You dont chop it off,you just take a painkiller. Furthermore there so many other regions that I havent seen US intervining for years.(Cyprus,Middle East,N.Ireland,Kamsir). Doesnt it seem a bit hypocritical to "liberate" only countries with "OIL"?

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Posted by: MaChiNehead

quote:
Originally posted by bellagirldee
Y2k anti war hippies suck!

Go Dubyah Go !

Kick Saddam's bum!


War is no football game. You can get over to this thread about the 19-year-old US girl MIA and post your cheerleader crap there:
http://www.inreview.com/showthread....1458&forumid=13
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Posted by: grotesque

How many times do I have to tell you people, WAR is not the answer. Take it from somebody who have been living in a country who fought the terrorist with diplomacy - and I bet you, it works!

You people are just wasting the tax payers dollars for nothing...

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Posted by: Rambo

quote:
How many times do I have to tell you people, WAR is not the answer.


How many times do we have to tell you that it is when it comes to Saddam Hussein.

Rhetorical question, of course.

We don't give a rip what you think. Carry on....
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Posted by: Sean Kelly

quote:
Originally posted by Canuck
My point is that the rabid pro-war arguments always seem to be posted by people that don't seem to have much in the way of an education.


With any degree of objectivity, you'll find that the "rabid" arguments posted on both sides of the argument tend to indicate poor education, not just on the "pro-war" side. It's easy to dismiss "rabid" arguments in general as being unintelligent, no matter which side they're arguing for..
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Posted by: Sean Kelly

quote:
Originally posted by Charles
What did Churchill say? If you are young and not liberal you have no heart, if you are old and not conservative you have no brain?


That's a profoundly cool quote - I'll have to remember it
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