Libya????

Post-9/11 Era Forum

What does the left think of the colonel wanting to come clean and re-engage with US?

Heh, I'm waiting for proof on the "9 month journey" to think about it. This move could prove to be interesting.

One must remember that Gadaffi is nothing of what he once was. He seems his country as African now, not Arab, & has totally given up on Palestine for a while. Added to the fact he saw what happened to the regimes in Aghfanistan & Iraq. Destroyed.

The regime didn't want to be next & they've reinvented themselves away from terrorism & the Arab world. Still not a pretty country but its better than being a terrorist state.

Me thinks, the USA & GB know what they're doing here. Very cunning & this will have domino effects worldwide.

FH

Hey, we're talking about Libya in this one Curl.

I ... can't really form an opinion about Gaddafi ... it astounds me that they can find proof his government had something to do with Lockerbie but can't take them down. Must be a ... nah. I dunno.

I know you righties are going to leap on Gaddafi's decision to give up his WMDs as prove the pre-emptive strike works, that might is right..... - and hell, maybe you're right.

But there's also the other side of the argument (as there always is and as you guys won't admit has an equal say - and may you work it out one day, soon, please) - but ... where am i?

Yes, the other side of the argument says there's been years of diplomacy, of diplomatic pressure, brought to bear on the Gaddafi regime and now it's bearing fruit.

Because the US proved it had lots of guns and wasn't afraid to use em? Maybe. But maybe not.

Hmmmmm - goes both ways huh? Things aren't black-and-white. Makes it hard to make a judgement don't it, when there's good arguments both ways for war, non-war.................

Curley? Your well-thought out, er, thoughts?

Ha! That's funny, again.

First of all I don't recall that Libya even had WMD.

There has been lots of diplomatic/economic pressure. But what sends ytou over the edge? To want to come clean and rejoin the world?

There are always competing complex interests involved. The new factor, namely, that Bush plays hard nosed "bad cop" around the world and just doesn't give a damn what anyone else thinks. If he feels there is a threat to US, or allies, or a link to terrorism, etc., YOU COULD BE NEXT.

Set one or two harsh examples, and watch a lot of baddies start toeing the line...

France ain't gonna save ya brother...

I just hope we can follow through.

Gaddafi knows we aren't kidding and there are no more second chances.
We missed him by inches last time and he knows we would miss next time.
Maybe he's had an epiphany and wants to go down as a decent leader.

We will start seeing more of this from the Arab countries.
The wake up has begun.

Have you guys ever wondered if being kind to other people might make Them like you more?

"a veteran Middle East expert, Judith Kipper of the Council on Foreign Relations, expressed doubt at that view. She said Gadhafi made a "strategic decision" at least two years ago to renounce terrorism and repair relations with the West. "It started before they [Washington and London] went to Iraq, a long time ago, so that argument simply does not hold," Kipper said."

Gadhafi been trying to sort the Lockerbie attack out for years.