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Posted by: Controversial J

OK. Here's the link.

THE LINK! <-- RED FONT!

Now. I want us all to sit back and take a good read through this link. You'll notice one thing that is mentioned is the virtual silence of the American and British press - and i agree, this would be expected.

Let's see...

I would be VERY disappointed to learn this is true. I have speculated about the Jessica Lynch rescue enough and this would seal the deal. Most of the world managed to be wrapped in the conspiracy theories there. Not most Americans though. You'd have been hard pressed to find one that doesn't believe the story. But truely, i'm sorry, it doesn't smell good to me.

Now there are a lot of facts and statements in the provided link.

I am very interested in hearing your thoughts on this information... Everyone.

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Posted by: Controversial J

Oooooh i'm gonna pay for this! :P

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Posted by: Sayzak

Nahhh. Doesn't make sense. Why would the kurds trap him so close to his own home town? Also, why would they give him clean clothes and food, as well as a bomb-safe hiding spot within the "cell"?

Doesn't matter to me anyway. Saddam could verify that the kurds -not the U.S.- caught him by opening his mouth. He's in the U.S. and Iraqi's custody, there's no reason why he can't set the story straight.

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Posted by: Curley Joe

One word here:

.org


Now, go pound more sand!

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Posted by: Coogee Beach

But what about all these links Curl?

Even Rupert's people have picked it up:

** We got him: Kurds say they caught Saddam, McGeogh, Sydney Morning Herald

** Saddam: Betrayed, drugged and traded Aljazeera

** Saddam was captured by Kurds, not US Sify.com

** Revealed: Who Really Found Saddam? Pratt, Sunday Herald/Scotland

Saddam held by Kurds, drugged and left for US troops: report ABC News Online

Kurds claim Saddam capture News.com.au (12/22/03)

Kurds Seized Saddam First, Novinite/Bulgaria

'Revenge for rape behind Saddam capture'

Report: ''Saddam capture - not result of American or British intelligence'' Al Bawaba.com

Saddam was held by Kurdish forces, drugged and left for US troops Arab Times/Kuwait

Kurds claim Saddam capture The Australian (12/22/03)

Kurds claim Saddam capture Herald Sun/AU (12/22/03)

Saddam was held by Kurds and left for US troops: ReportHindustan Times (copy of AFP report)

Saddam was held by Kurdish forces, drugged and left for US troops Channel News Asia (AFP report)

Kurds claim Saddam capture The Advertiser/AU (12/22/03)

** Kurds, Not U.S. Captured Saddam: Report Islam Online/UK

Saddam was held by Kurdish forces, drugged and left for US troops Kurdish Media (AFP report)


Revealed: Who Really Found Saddam? Infoshop News (Pratt article)


Kurds, Not U.S. Captured Saddam: Report Palestinian Chronicle

** ‘Kurdish forces nabbed & drugged Saddam’ The Statesman/India

Kurds nabbed Saddam first? Today Online/Singapore (AFP report)

Saddam Captured by Kurds; US Troops Get Photo Opp Conspiracy Planet

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Posted by: jvstr

Our little Pilger Pimper, Coogoo, is at it again...

If you look at all of the news bits that claim the Kurds captured Saddam and threw him in a pit, drugged... they all cite the same source... including the one from ABC:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1014319.htm

"Saddam Hussein was captured by US troops only after he had been taken prisoner by Kurdish forces, drugged and abandoned ready for American soldiers to recover him, a British tabloid newspaper has reported."

It all boils down to this:

A British tabloid newspaper....

An unnamed senior British military intelligence officer....

An unnamed Iraqi intelligence officer...

Add to that the rumors that he was drugged and that the Kurds caught him... and one has quite a juicy propaganda piece to proffer.

It's all horsesh*it... and you can bookmark this post, too, for future reference.


--JV

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Posted by: Dragonhalitosis

quote:
sayzak21 said this in post #3 :
Nahhh. Doesn't make sense. Why would the kurds trap him so close to his own home town? Also, why would they give him clean clothes and food, as well as a bomb-safe hiding spot within the "cell"?

Doesn't matter to me anyway. Saddam could verify that the kurds -not the U.S.- caught him by opening his mouth. He's in the U.S. and Iraqi's custody, there's no reason why he can't set the story straight.

I'm not trying to defend the accuracy of this allegation Sayak but Tikrit is a Kurd town. Saladin ( a Kurd ) was born there.
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Posted by: Coogee Beach

Okay, so when the British tabloid NAMES these people, as they'll be forced to do eventually (well, they'll at least have to verify their story - the world's press will demand it, your mates on Fox included) - so if these guys are named:

An unnamed senior British military intelligence officer....

An unnamed Iraqi intelligence officer...

And these guys repeat the story they told the newspaper, I'm guessin your job will then be to immediately set about dis-crediting them as sources.

Am I right?

Also be interesting to see how the Administration spins it ...... - how'd they get out of the saying Jessica Lynch fought to the death and was rescued in a daring firefight? Think they might've blamed someone ... ... but I can't remember and can't be ****ed looking it up.

Anyway.

Anyway, as they say, there's no propaganda like you're own jv, hm?

Let's just see how this pans out, how CNN, Fox, etc pick it up and run with it - I mean, we here in Oz are a long way in front time-wise and our papers tomorrow morning are already being printed with the story...

anyway.

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Posted by: USA1

As I said before. I know someone who witnessed it and he's with te 4th ID.
Get over it.

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Posted by: chelktty

Considering everything Saddam has done to the Kurds under his regime, it would lead me to speculate that had they really caught him, he would've been tortured and murdered out of general principle.

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Posted by: USA1

chelktty,
That requires too much common sense for some on this board to figure out.
Everything is a conspiracy with them.
There is a psychological term for those who dwell on the negative but, I can't remember the name of it.

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Posted by: Curley Joe

quote:
USA1 said this in post #11 :
chelktty,
That requires too much common sense for some on this board to figure out.
Everything is a conspiracy with them.
There is a psychological term for those who dwell on the negative but, I can't remember the name of it.


It's called SANS (Severe Acute Negativity Syndrome):

http://www.timothyming.com/AprilWorldReport.pdf
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Posted by: USA1

Thanks Curley.
Some could even be suffering from PTSD, just from anxiety about this War.

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Posted by: chelktty

quote:
USA1 said this in post #11 :
chelktty,
That requires too much common sense for some on this board to figure out.
Everything is a conspiracy with them.
There is a psychological term for those who dwell on the negative but, I can't remember the name of it.


You have a good point, but it might get boring around here if people didn't post conspiracy theories, no matter how ridiculous thay might be.

How about this, the Kurds didn't have him, he was hanging out with Michael Jackson in Vegas while Mark Geragos negotiated his surrender to U.S. soldiers.
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Posted by: Coogee Beach

Maybe Jacko knows where the WMDs are. Maybe Elvis does. Or maybe there aren't any.Maybe Iraq actually destroyed them before the war but didn't keep any records of doing it, and because he couldn't prove it (because his word wasn't worth poop) we invaded and conquered his country.

That sound about right?

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Posted by: Curley Joe

IRAQI editorial page:

Justice has caught the bloodsucker, the despot who has humiliated his people and relatives…. The cries of the honest people in Iraq and the entire world were heard calling for freedom for the patient Iraqis, the people of goodness and the people of history and the people of knowledge which has shone over the world…. This is the clearest and most beautiful morning in my country, Mesopotamia. Be joyful, oh my brothers, be joyful, oh my brothers, for this is great news for Iraq.

—Al-'Ahd Al-Jadid (by Abd Al-Bassit Al-Naqqash)

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Posted by: Sayzak

quote:
Dragonhalitosis said this in post #7 :

I'm not trying to defend the accuracy of this allegation Sayak but Tikrit is a Kurd town. Saladin ( a Kurd ) was born there.


Haha, I didn't know that. I was under the impression that anything 'kurdish' was pretty far away. Thanks for the info.
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Posted by: Sayzak

Or maybe Saddam Hussein really owns the United States and has set this whole thing up as a scam. Maybe everything we see on TV is only what he allows us to see? Hey, most of us wouldn't know the difference. He could secretly rule the whole planet. Maybe there's life on Mars and only he knows about it? Maybe that's why Nasa is such a secretive and expensive operation? Saddam owns the entire solar system! Martians included! Wow... For all we know Saddam might actually own the whole universe! Is he god? If he was, how would we know?

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Posted by: Controversial J

LOL @ sayzak21

That's not possible! I own the piece of space located exactly at coordinates 45.366667, -63.3 between 3.879km and 4.108km. It's mine, ALL MINE!

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Posted by: Coogee Beach

quote:
sayzak21 said this in post #18 :
Wow... For all we know Saddam might actually own the whole universe! Is he god? If he was, how would we know?


We'd know because he would have a big white beard.....

Oh! Oh! Hang on! ................. hey, did God ever live in a hole? And be old mates with Don Rumsfeld? And ... kill his son?

Or was that the devil...

Phew-ee - tough getting a moral strangle-hold on this whole thing aint it, so many folks sayin' diffrunt stuff............... and stuff.

Who to believe.........?

Curley? You've proven pretty trustworthy..

BUUWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
IIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIII
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE

oh. that's funny. sorry. let me comport myself.

ooh. right. thanks.
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Posted by: Dragonhalitosis

quote:
sayzak21 said this in post #17 :


Haha, I didn't know that. I was under the impression that anything 'kurdish' was pretty far away. Thanks for the info.

You're welcome sayak I read alot its nice when a fact is useful.
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Posted by: frenchfries

quote:
Controversial J said this in post #1 :
OK. Here's the link.

THE LINK! &lt;-- RED FONT!

Now. I want us all to sit back and take a good read through this link. You'll notice one thing that is mentioned is the virtual silence of the American and British press - and i agree, this would be expected.

Let's see...

I would be VERY disappointed to learn this is true. I have speculated about the Jessica Lynch rescue enough and this would seal the deal. Most of the world managed to be wrapped in the conspiracy theories there. Not most Americans though. You'd have been hard pressed to find one that doesn't believe the story. But truely, i'm sorry, it doesn't smell good to me.

Now there are a lot of facts and statements in the provided link.

I am very interested in hearing your thoughts on this information... Everyone.


AFP confirmed this information 3 days ago. Sorry, I wanted to post the link, but failed to do so. (Saddam caught by Kurds and not by US troops).

It is simply pure and sickening US propaganda, as usual.
Europeans hardly paid attention to that, as our opinion is already done on this issue (US citizens are brainwashed and do support the worst president they ever had).

But still, Saddam was caught, and whoever did the job, this is good news, as Libya's decision.
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Posted by: jvstr

quote:
frenchfries said this in post #22 :


AFP confirmed this information 3 days ago.



They didn't confirm anything you stinky smelly rotten Frenchman.

http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article....031221014004335

"LONDON, (AFP) Saddam Hussein was captured by US troops only after he had been taken prisoner by Kurdish forces, drugged and abandoned ready for American soldiers to recover him, a British Sunday newspaper said."

They just repeated the same sludge driveled by a tabloid in the UK.


quote:
frenchfries said this in post #22 :


Europeans hardly paid attention to that, as our opinion is...


...in the toilet, where it belongs.



--JV
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Posted by: frenchfries

quote:
jvstr said this in post #23 :



They didn't confirm anything you stinky smelly rotten Frenchman.

http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article....031221014004335

"LONDON, (AFP) Saddam Hussein was captured by US troops only after he had been taken prisoner by Kurdish forces, drugged and abandoned ready for American soldiers to recover him, a British Sunday newspaper said."

They just repeated the same sludge driveled by a tabloid in the UK.




...in the toilet, where it belongs.



--JV


Still as well educated as usual, hmm?
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Posted by: Controversial J

Jv, you have some serious issues and these issues have nothing to do with the war or anything on this board. Please see a doctor before you hurt yourself.

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Posted by: jvstr

quote:
frenchfries said this in post #24 :


Still as well educated as usual, hmm?



You bet. I have a PhD in Terrorist Scumbag Detection... and right now, you are glowing bright red on my scopes.


--JV
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Posted by: USA1

It seems that everything is a movie with you europeans. Do you have any sence of reality?
Why would you even bother yourself with such rediculous crap. Anything to prove that America is evil right? This type of crap shows your intelligence, or lack of it.
I bet you actually believe that "Wag the Dog" was a documentary.

Instead of applauding the fact that Saddam is doomed to spend eternity in hell, you find fault with the capture to turn away the evant as some evil conspiracy.
This is very immature of you frenchfries, I expected differntly from you, but you have now changed my impression of you. Just plain gullable.

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Posted by: Coogee Beach

Gullible is spelt "gullible", and is described in the Oxford Dictionary as "Believing implicitly that Iraq was invaded just to free the Iraqis and protect America from terrorism."

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Posted by: Charles

quote:
Coogee Beach said this in post #28 :
Gullible is spelt "gullible", and is described in the Oxford Dictionary as "Believing implicitly that Iraq was invaded just to free the Iraqis and protect America from terrorism."


But what do you call those who thought it was for those reasons, as well as regional stability/liberalization, security of world energy resources, setting example to other baddies, etc.

You seem to pick and choose individual reasons from a whole well documented pack of reasons.

Please check dictionary for:

disingenuous
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Posted by: Coogee Beach

Guilty. But aren't we all?

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