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Posted by: Marc Flemming

Saddam Hussein has been captured alive in his hometown of Tikrit, a member of the U.S.-appointed Governing Council said Sunday.

Council member Dara Noor al-Din told The Associated Press that the council was informed of the former dictator's capture in a telephone call from L. Paul Bremer, the U.S. administrator for Iraq.

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Posted by: jvstr

Great news!!!!!!!!

I'm watching now on TV and celebratory gunshots are going off everywhere. Today is a grand day for sure. Great day for the Iraqi's... great day for the Coalition.... great day for America.... and a great day for Bush.

Time to go have a glass of Italian wine to celebrate...


--JV

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Posted by: MaxPowers

LMAO Finally that POS is gonna get his!

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Posted by: Benyamin

yes indeed it is great news for US and the Iraqi's.
Now the question is will there be peace now in Iraq
Probably not immediately but it should start to slow things
down.

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Posted by: Optics

This would be great. They are going to have a news confrence in about 2 minutes. I guess we will see for sure in about 2 minutes

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Posted by: Optics

I just don't understand how he was taken with out ONE shot being fired ? Oh well all the better for us.

We got 'em !!!!

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Posted by: lodgebo

wondeful news for all those people that suffred he will now have to face justice.
News confrence said that he was hiding in a secret room in a bunker in Tikrit, US forces got a tip off from what is now a very rich civilian also reports that the civlian may be moved to a coaltion country for his/her own safety.
Anyone know where he will be tried? hopefully Iraq after all his crimes were aginst the Iraqi peopl

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Posted by: Optics

Whoooo hoooo VIDEO of him !!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by: Marc Flemming

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Without firing a shot, American forces captured a bearded and haggard-looking Saddam Hussein in a dirt cellar under a farmhouse near his hometown of Tikrit, ending one of the most intensive manhunts in history. The arrest was a huge victory for U.S. forces battling an insurgency by the ousted dictator's followers.

"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him," U.S. administrator L. Paul Bremer told a news conference Sunday, eight months after American troops swept into Baghdad and toppled Saddam's regime.

"The tyrant is a prisoner."

In the capital, radio stations played celebratory music, residents fired small arms in the air in celebration and passengers on buses and trucks shouted, "They got Saddam! They got Saddam!"

Washington hopes Saddam's capture will help break the organized Iraq resistance that has killed more than 190 American soldiers since President Bush declared major combat over on May 1 and has set back efforts at reconstruction. U.S. commanders have said that while in hiding Saddam played some role in the guerrilla campaign blamed on his followers.

In the latest attack, a suspected suicide bomber detonated explosives in a car outside a police station Sunday morning west of Baghdad, killing at least 17 people and wounding 33 more, the U.S. military said.

Saddam was captured at 8:30 p.m. Saturday in a walled farm compound in Adwar, a town 10 miles from Tikrit, said Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, the top U.S. military commander in Iraq. The cellar was little more than a specially prepared "spider hole" with just enough space to lie down. Bricks and dirt camouflaged the entrance.

A Pentagon diagram showed the hiding place as a 6-foot-deep vertical tunnel, with a shorter tunnel branching out horizontally from one side. A pipe to the concrete surface at ground level provided air, according to a Pentagon diagram. The hole was inside a small walled compound with a room in one corner and a lean-to attached to the room. The hole was roughly in the middle of the compound.

A U.S. defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Saddam admitted his identity when captured.

Sanchez, who saw Saddam overnight, said the deposed leader "has been cooperative and is talkative." He described Saddam as "a tired man, a man resigned to his fate."

Eager to give Iraqis evidence that the elusive former dictator had indeed been captured, Sanchez played a video at the news conference showing the 66-year-old Saddam in custody.

Saddam, with a thick, graying beard and bushy, disheveled hair, was seen as doctor examined him, holding his mouth open with a tongue depressor, apparently to get a DNA sample. Saddam touched his beard during the exam. Then the video showed a picture of Saddam after he was shaved, juxtaposed for comparison with an old photo of the Iraqi leader while in power.

Iraqi journalists in the audience stood, pointed and shouted "Death to Saddam!" and "Down with Saddam!"

Though the raid occurred Saturday afternoon American time, U.S. officials went to great length to keep it quiet until medical tests and DNA testing confirmed Saddam's identity.

Saddam was being held at an undisclosed location, and U.S. authorities have not yet determined whether to hand him over to the Iraqis for trial, Sanchez said. Iraqi officials want him to stand trial before a war crimes tribunal created last week.

"This success brings closure to the Iraqi people," Sanchez said.

"Saddam Hussein will never return to a position of power from which he can punish, terrorize, intimidate and exploit the Iraqi people as the did for more than 35 years."

Ahmad Chalabi, a member of Iraq's Governing Council, said Sunday that Saddam will be put on trial.

"Saddam will stand a public trial so that the Iraqi people will know his crimes," said Chalabi told Al-Iraqiya, a Pentagon-funded TV station.

British Prime Minister Tony Blair hailed the capture, saying the deposed leader "has gone from power, he won't be coming back."

"Where his rule meant terror and division and brutality, let his capture bring about unity, reconciliation and peace between all the people of Iraq," Blair said in brief comments at his 10 Downing St. office.

In Tikrit, U.S. soldiers lit up cigars after hearing the news of Saddam's capture.

Some 600 troops from the 4th Infantry Division along with Special Forces captured Saddam, the U.S. military said. There were no shots fired or injuries in the raid, called "Operation Red Dawn," Sanchez said.

Two men "affiliated with Saddam Hussein" were detained with him, and soldiers confiscated two Kalashnikov rifles, a pistol, a taxi and $750,000 in $100 bills, Sanchez said. The two men were "fairly insignificant" regime figures, a U.S. defense official said.

Celebratory gunfire erupted in the capital, and shop owners closed their doors, fearful that the shooting would make the streets unsafe.

"I'm very happy for the Iraqi people. Life is going to be safer now," said 35-year-old Yehya Hassan, a resident of Baghdad. "Now we can start a new beginning."

Earlier in the day, rumors of the capture sent people streaming into the streets of Kirkuk, a northern Iraqi city, firing guns in the air in celebration.

"We are celebrating like it's a wedding," said Kirkuk resident Mustapha Sheriff. "We are finally rid of that criminal."

"This is the joy of a lifetime," said Ali Al-Bashiri, another resident. "I am speaking on behalf of all the people that suffered under his rule."

Despite the celebration throughout Baghdad, many residents were skeptical.

"I heard the news, but I'll believe it when I see it," said Mohaned al-Hasaji, 33. "They need to show us that they really have him."

Ayet Bassem, 24, walked out of a shop with her 6-year-old son.

"Things will be better for my son," she said. "Everyone says everything will be better when Saddam is caught. My son now has a future."

After invading Iraq on March 20 and setting up their headquarters in Saddam's sprawling Republican Palace compound in Baghdad, U.S. troops launched a massive manhunt for the fugitive leader, placing a $25 million bounty on his head and sending thousands of soldiers to search for him.

Saddam was one of the most-wanted fugitives in the world, along with Osama bin Laden, the leader of the al-Qaida terrorist network who hasn't been caught despite a manhunt since November 2001, when the Taliban regime was overthrown in Afghanistan.

Saddam proved elusive during the war, when at least two dramatic military strikes came up empty in their efforts to assassinate him. Since then, he has appeared in both video and audio tapes. U.S. officials named him No. 1 on their list of 55 most-wanted Iraqis, the Ace of Spades in a special deck of most-wanted cards.

U.S. forces had indicated they did not think Saddam would be captured alive.

Saddam's sons Qusai and Odai - each with a $15 million bounty on their heads - were killed July 22 in a four-hour gunbattle with U.S. troops in a hideout in the northern city of Mosul. The bounties were paid out to the man who owned the house where they were killed, residents said.

Adnan Pachachi, member of Iraq's U.S.-appointed Governing Council, said Saddam's capture will bring stability to Iraq.

"The state of fear, intelligence and oppression is gone forever," Pachachi said. "The Iraqi people are very happy and we look forward to a future of national reconciliation between Iraqis in order to build the new and free Iraq, an Iraq of equality."

Source: AP

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Posted by: Marc Flemming

Saddam Hussein was captured based on information from a member of a family "close to him," Maj. Gen. Raymond Odierno said Sunday.

Odierno, the commander of the 4th Infantry Division that captured Saddam, said over the last 10 days soldiers have questioned "five to 10 members" of families "close to Saddam."

"Finally we got the ultimate information from one of these individuals," he said.

Source: AP

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Posted by: Curley Joe

Absolutely fantastic!!!

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Posted by: oneofpeace

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Optics said this in post #6 :
I just don't understand how he was taken with out ONE shot being fired ? Oh well all the better for us.

We got 'em !!!!


Well I'll tell ya how. Saddam was a coward. He was always quick to kill or to send others to die to futher his psychotic realm of reality centered totally around his selfish existence. They caught him with a gun in hand, no doubt to give those around him the illusion that he was ready to commit suicide should he be found. And now the man that ordered so many to die for his land was a coward in the end.

Anything short of years of torture would be too good for him as far as I'm concerned. I hope this does eventually slow down the violence over there so our soldiers can come home asap.

Good job and great accomplishment for our military
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Posted by: AliasFan

Just Desserts. Found in a rat hole.....living among the rats. Really too nice of a life for him considering things.

to our Military and Bush, a job well-done!

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Posted by: JY_French

This is great news. This evil bastard is going to be prosecuted for all his crimes. I wish also that it will lower violence there. Congratulations to the militaries who got him.

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Posted by: oneofpeace

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Marc Flemming said this in post #10 :
Saddam Hussein was captured based on information from a member of a family "close to him," Maj. Gen. Raymond Odierno said Sunday.

Odierno, the commander of the 4th Infantry Division that captured Saddam, said over the last 10 days soldiers have questioned "five to 10 members" of families "close to Saddam."

"Finally we got the ultimate information from one of these individuals," he said.

Source: AP


The report I got on CNN is that they didn't get it from family members, but possibly from a p.o.w. So they may not be awarding the 25 million award to any one.

Where ever they got it from, they certainly had intel diming him out. Somebody deserves something.
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Posted by: lodgebo

I heard that it was partly due to someone close to Saddam and partly because the fool had been using a satellite phone or the past 3 months and was practically sending the US an electronic signal saying Saddam is right here.
Also how about some recognition not jut for the US but for the Kurds because I heard they were heavily involved in the capture as well

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Posted by: oneofpeace

There were many persons that contributed to Sadams capture and they all deserve credit. Also thanks to state of the art equipment the US possesses, we were able to pin point him.

But how about Saddam. This is a man that was use to living in marble & gold castles, driving the best luxury cars, and eating top notch cuisine. I mean what a fall to take from that to a 6ft dust hole infested with bugs and rats.

I bet he spent many nights coughing up dust-bunnies wishing he could have done it differently huh?

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Posted by: lodgebo

Don't thinkn so Tyrants all ahve one thing in common and that is beliveing that he is right, all the time he was in that cave he probably was balming the coalition for the mess he got himself in.
Also what responsibility for the Iraqi legal system tthe first case is Iraq V Sadamm.

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Posted by: Charles

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oneofpeace said this in post #15 :


The report I got on CNN is that they didn't get it from family members, but possibly from a p.o.w. So they may not be awarding the 25 million award to any one.

Where ever they got it from, they certainly had intel diming him out. Somebody deserves something.


We should spend the 25 million in tikrit. Build them a nice museum describing in detail all atrocities. Nah - that might rub them the wrong way. We'll wait a few years.

I know - let's buy all of those sheep that were sent to some island off australia - ship them to Iraq, and let the people have a huge feast.

sorry to the vegans out there...
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Posted by: JY_French

Saddam's image just after being captured just reminded me of some images of dictators of this kind when they face the consequences of their crimes. Saddam, Ceaucescu, Milosevic .... they all share the same haggard when masks fall.
I hope one day all those Castro, Jong-Il, Pinochet will know the same fate. I hope that one day international justice will be effective enough to reach such a goal. I know that it is not likely to be the case, but if the International Court in La Hague could prosecute Saddam ... this would be another clear and universal message to those evil folks. "The world will no longer be the same."
Again, congratulations to the militaries who got that bastard.

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Posted by: Charles

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JY_French said this in post #20 :
Saddam's image just after being captured just reminded me of some images of dictators of this kind when they face the consequences of their crimes. Saddam, Ceaucescu, Milosevic .... they all share the same haggard when masks fall.
I hope one day all those Castro, Jong-Il, Pinochet will know the same fate. I hope that one day international justice will be effective enough to reach such a goal. I know that it is not likely to be the case, but if the International Court in La Hague could prosecute Saddam ... this would be another clear and universal message to those evil folks. "The world will no longer be the same."
Again, congratulations to the militaries who got that bastard.


Maybe, but doesn't Hague outlaw the death penalty?

I think the Iraqi's are struggling with shame that they have been helped in this by infidel outsider who currently occupies their country.

They need to build a history for themselves. I think they need to do this - although US/UN could/should support.


I do hope that his capture will slowly but surely turn the tide.
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Posted by: lodgebo

Nah he will be tried in Iraq and many say he will get the death sentence. Personally that might not be a good idea you kill him you make him a martyr for all his supporters also you kill him he dies and thats it, let the bastard rot in jail for the rest of his natural life, let him feel just a little bit how some of his victims felt knowing that they would not leave that jail alive.

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Posted by: oneofpeace

It was the US that set the bounty on Saddam's head to 25 million. Are you insinuating that the US should renege on our promise to pay? After all, some told them where he was you know. We put that bounty on him because we could find him in the first place.

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Posted by: oneofpeace

That last post was for Chuck

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Posted by: chelktty

I'm sure the Iraqi people would love to sentence him to death by dismemberment. How unfortunate that his punishment will most likely not fit the crimes he's committed. He should be raped, tortured and killed very painfully and slowly. No less than he deserves.

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Posted by: Curley Joe

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chelktty said this in post #25 :
I'm sure the Iraqi people would love to sentence him to death by dismemberment. How unfortunate that his punishment will most likely not fit the crimes he's committed. He should be raped, tortured and killed very painfully and slowly. No less than he deserves.


You're right, chelktty. But we are not savage animals like he is.
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Posted by: Charles

quote:
oneofpeace said this in post #23 :
It was the US that set the bounty on Saddam's head to 25 million. Are you insinuating that the US should renege on our promise to pay? After all, some told them where he was you know. We put that bounty on him because we could find him in the first place.


Ah, peace - always ready to point fingers and assume the worst ...

Some reports have said that there isn't necessarily anyone to pay that gave THE tip. If there is someone - or a group - we should absolutely pay them.

We should pay tidy bounties to all Iraqi's who help with real tactical info that lead to arrests. but it should be done quietly of course. I'm sure those folks would be putting themselves at great risk.
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Posted by: oneofpeace

Not pointing the finger just simply responding Chuck. It seemed like your previous comment was sarcastic.

quote:
We should spend the 25 million in tikrit. Build them a nice museum describing in detail all atrocities. Nah - that might rub them the wrong way. We'll wait a few years.

I know - let's buy all of those sheep that were sent to some island off australia - ship them to Iraq, and let the people have a huge feast.

sorry to the vegans out there...


Although this doesn't justify Bush's non existant reasons for going to war, at least they caught Saddam. If they hadn't caught him, then there would be nothing in my opinion that this war would have been good for. Saddam would have always stirred trouble and those people would have never had peace. I'm just glad we accomplished that. Now I'm hoping Bush will get on to the real business at hand, and that is finding Osama Bin Laden.
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Posted by: Curley Joe

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Charles said this in post #27 :


Ah, [oneofpeace] - always ready to point fingers and assume the worst ...


It's what lefties do best! It's their job, after all.
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Posted by: Charles

quote:
Although this doesn't justify Bush's non existant reasons for going to war, at least they caught Saddam. If they hadn't caught him, then there would be nothing in my opinion that this war would have been good for. Saddam would have always stirred trouble and those people would have never had peace. I'm just glad we accomplished that. Now I'm hoping Bush will get on to the real business at hand, and that is finding Osama Bin Laden.


So now you are admitting that the ends can justify the means?

We got Saddam. We are in the process of stabilizing and rebuilding Iraq. We are in the process of fighting a war on terror.

If we are successful in helping Iraq rebuild and stabilize, will you agree that this is another solid justification? If this sets example to other regional powers and their people that more liberal regimes lead to more prosperity and more peace, will you agree that this is another solid justification?

So the "ends" are justified - you just don't want to do anything to achieve those ends...
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Posted by: oneofpeace

I never said this war was justified because it's not. It's just nice to know something good came out of it. You don't justify a war predicated on evidence you find after you declare war. That's not justification. Finding Saddam certainly isn't justifying anything. It just means that the US caught the bastard and that he is. There are many more like him, do we arrest them too and call ourselves just because we've accomplished it?

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Posted by: Curley Joe

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oneofpeace said this in post #31 :
I never said this war was justified because it's not. You don't justify a war predicated on evidence you find after you declare war.


Let me get this straight, deathy: Removing a dictator from power—who has destroyed millions of people and an entire nation's infrastructure and soul—and bringing him to justice is not enough for you to justify the war. Not only that but finding WMD now or anytime in the future does not justify the war because by your standards we had no right to follow through a unanimously approved U.N. resolution that warranted taking action against Saddam in the first place. Well, we no longer need to read BETWEEN your lines 'cause you just provided the BOTTOM line: You're a pathetic lefty who hates Bush so much that you would throw away all the good America is doing, has done and will do just to make love to your flacid agenda.

GOOD LUCK! 'Cause come next November you gonna need a whole lot of it! On the other hand, if you're gonna be so unhappy for the next five years maybe you oughta give Canada a try....

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