I started the 'Shut The Hell Up' awards on my site and I want to hear about some of yours.
This is your chance to tell a celebrity, politician, or other jackass in the spotlight to SHUT THE HELL UP!
My top 3 for the week are:
1.) Barry Bonds- You're 39 years old. In your late 20's to early 30's you gained muscle mass like you were going through puberty again. Look at you. It's not natural. You take steroids, your people got caught with them, admit it! Until then, SHUT THE HELL UP!
2.) Kobe Bryant fans- Just because you dropped $70 on a Lakers jersey, that means you have clairvoyance enough to know what happened at that resort in Colorado? You know for sure that Kobe didn't rape that girl because he seems like such a good guy in his soda or shoe commercials? You don't know Kobe, he probably did it, so SHUT THE HELL UP!
3.) Movie stars that speak out about anything other than their movies- So, you play make-believe for a bunch of coin and you presume that anyone really gives a crap what your stance on the war in Iraq is? Yes, people put mic's in front of you because you are famous, it's not because you're Churchill. Keep making the talkies and go about your life, in the meantime... SHUT THE HELL UP!
Whew, I feel better.
And you can tell me to shut up too, I won't get mad.
Great thread, Heck. I'm really with you there on number 3.
I'm so tired of stars thinking that because they are popular for their acting, singing, etc... that it gives them the right to preach and spew their political ignorance all over the place. If they want to do that, I want to see them running for political offices, or doing something other than using their acceptance speeches at award shows as a soap box to say how they feel about the war, etc... SHUT THE HELL UP!
Paris Hilton- Ok, you were born rich, you're a biotch, you have sex on video, and you're on a lame reality show. You're two hundred pounds of skank in a 90 pound bag. Must be nice to sit around and look pretty while contributing nothing to society. You're famous for being famous. Please, please, please fade away. Oh yeah... and SHUT THE HELL UP!
Great thread HECK! May I nominate all the tabloids and trash TV that keep talking about JLo and Ben. WE DON'T FREAKIN' CARE WHAT THEY DO. SHUT THE HELL UP!!!
Originally posted by fuscia Great thread HECK! May I nominate all the tabloids and trash TV that keep talking about JLo and Ben. WE DON'T FREAKIN' CARE WHAT THEY DO. SHUT THE HELL UP!!!
Ok, they're going to start rolling in, how about...
Pamela Anderson- So, you're famous for Playboy, having fake knockers and humping rock stars- on video no less. Since 'Baywatch' and 'V.I.P.' were so magnificent and changed humanity forever (see: sarcasm) you think that you can cure the problems of the world by taking on Kentucky Friend Chicken? Ok, if KFC does do what you claim, like allow chickens to be bred and drugged to be so top-heavy that they can barely walk, to be gathered in a manner that breaks their wings and beaks, and to be scalded to death or drowned in feather-removal tanks, then that sucks. It really does. What would you propose? Hmmmmmmm? Let them live out there doomed existance in between your plastic fun-bags? Are you going to let them run around the beach with you in red bathing suits? If PETA wants to take on big-chicken, let them. Just shut your pie-hole and try think of what to tell your kids when they see clips of the 'Pam & Tommy Lee' show on the internet. Until then, I'll take original recipe with some biscuits and you need to SHUT THE HELL UP!
Great job HECK. Pamela Lee or whatever the hell she is calling herself is on my list too.
200 pounds of Skank in a 90 pound bag? wasn't that the grinch
All the wacked out people here in California who want to give drivers licenses to ILLEGAL immigrants. They are not here legally, they are breaking the law, deport them and SHUT THE HELL UP!!!! That is a no brainer folks.
and thus HECK! ushers in a new era for the flamer's ward!
britney spears - li'l miss priss. 'oooh, i'm a virgin' yeah right. you're about as undefiled as a whore house on nickel night giving away $5 rebates. 'i'm saving myself for marriage'. right, and then you and your beau get it on to prince's 'let's pretend we're married'. 'oops i did it again', did what again? forget to close your eyes? stings a little bit don't it? and what's up w/ 'the joy of pepsi'? is pepsi the name of your pocket rocket? and there ain't no virgin singin' a song like 'soda pop':
quote:
Open that soda pop, watch it fizz and pop
The clock is tickin' and we can't stop
Open that soda pop, bop-a shu-bop shu-bop
The clock is tickin' and we can't stop
We might start riding to the music tonight
A clever way to get by, oh
The pops keep flowin' like its fire and ice
So give it a little blind, ooh
so, little miss hipocrite, quit runnin' around with your soft core porn proclaiming to be as pure as the driven snow. and until you learn a little self respect and become a proper role model for all these teenage girls that idolize you -- SHUT THE HELL UP!
I just read Larke's post, and nearly lost bowel control!
Even more funny, I was reading it while listening to "little miss priss's" song, "Santa, Can You Hear Me?", on the radio, where she sings (if you can call it that...), "...I've been a good girl this year..."
To the people trying to sue McDonalds for millions of dollars... Fast food is NEVER going to go away!!! Never!!! I love fast food. America loves fast food. And I think we all deserve the respect as decision-making adults: We make our own choices, and we can learn to live with them! You're the same people trying to sue the tobaco industry. -Don't get me wrong, I don't like ciggeretts, and I wouldn't kiss a girl who smokes, but people have the freedom to harm themselves in any which way they choose!
Cheeseburgers are not known to open your mouth and gun point and force their way in! Gahhhhh!!!!just shut the hell up!!!
Have any of you guys seen Michael Moore's The Awful Truth tv series? It's funny as hell, was just released here in Australia, and features some nice work on behalf of the corporate crime fighter himself.
Picture this: It is Christmas Eve at the cigarette company office, everything is quiet and calm with the air of the approaching festive season, when suddenly there are 20 people and a camera crew in the foyer, all of them sufferers of throat cancer, and they begin singing Christmas Carols with those rasping voicebox sounds...
The Voicebox Choir, made up of people who themselves have suffered from throat cancer resulting from either smoking, or the inhalation of other's smoke, performed at the Marlboro Headquarters in Washington DC, for all the hurrying executives who were rushing home for Christmas eve with their families.
I thought it was one of the most effective pieces of footage ever captured.
People who defend a celebrity who's been charged with something...
Not by saying that they support that person and don't think that it could have happened...
It's when they get all defensive, like that star is their best friend!
SHUT THE HELL UP!!! You don't know the facts any more than we do!!!
I would like all the people who use the words 'like', '****', 'hell' after every two words to shut the hell up!!! If you can't talk decently or in a grammatically correct way, don't annoy others!!!
Courtney Love, You're only famous because your husband blew his head off with a shotgun. You're mildly talented music-wise and incredibly talented as a strung out crack whore. You're a selfish, braindead, violent, trailor trash, j@ckass millionaire. You deserve to spend the rest of your natural life in either prison or a mental institution for the damage you're causing your daughter because you're more concerned with getting your fix than taking care of her. It's just unfortunate that you weren't standing directly behind Kurt when that gun went off.
SHUT THE HELL UP!
Marilyn Manson, You're a baptised Satanist, a priest in the Satanic religion, and everyone knows the only reason for it and your ghastly appearance is to sell records because the TRUTH of it is you're an untalented freak! SHUT THE HELL UP!
To the leaders of the world, screwing over the common man for political and your personal financial gain. Killing off the masses to quench a blood lust or sending off your people to die in a war just so you can maintain power. SHUT THE HELL UP!
Osama Bin Laden, You have a target the size of Texas on your a$$ pal, don't think for a minute that you're going to die a peaceful death. You call on your brainwashed followers to carry out murderous tasks that you're too chickensh!t to do yourself. Go the Hell, but first, SHUT THE HELL UP!!!
Madonna. First she is the ultimate media whore. She has done anything and anyone to get money and power. Now she slips the tongue to Brittney Spears on TV then the next day she is in a dress with glasses on trying to play the mommie. Oh look what a good mom I am buy my books. Like she is is going to be the next J.K. Rowling. Oh, and quit spouting the Cabala all over the place. We just don't think of you as an intellectual and we did not even know you could read. Madonna SHUT THE HELL UP.
Let me echo sayzak's SHUT THE HELL UP nominee- To the 'it's not my fault it's yours' people suing McDonald's because they are obese. Guess what porks, no one made you supersize that triple cheeseburger meal. I doubt Ronald McDonald shoved that chocolate shake down your throat. Here are a few suggestions: Mickey D's is not the answer if your pants are busting at the crotch. Just because your kid wants a Happy Meal doesn't mean you have to buy it. Exercise. And SHUT THE HELL UP!
Originally posted by fuscia Madonna. First she is the ultimate media whore. She has done anything and anyone to get money and power. Now she slips the tongue to Brittney Spears on TV then the next day she is in a dress with glasses on trying to play the mommie. Oh look what a good mom I am buy my books. Like she is is going to be the next J.K. Rowling. Oh, and quit spouting the Cabala all over the place. We just don't think of you as an intellectual and we did not even know you could read. Madonna SHUT THE HELL UP.
Yeah, and stop with that British accent! And don't make any more movies!
Hell yes HECK! Madonna, Brittney Spears, Mariah, don't ever ever make anymore movies. SHUT THE HELL UP!!!! Oh, in case Madonna is too Brittish now to understand that SHUT THE BLOODY HELL UP!
And you can't forget Jennifer Lopez. J.lo, you're allowed ONE MORE MOVIE, it better not suck! I liked 'Out Of Sight' but George Clooney really made it tolerable. 'U-Turn' was cool too, but your last four or five movies licked! And no one cares about you and Ben, so please, for the love of all things decent, SHUT THE HELL UP!
Thank you, Dekka... that is something that bothers the HELL out of me.
One of my friends started calling me, "K-Girl" and I went through the roof!
I told her that I'm not one of those people who thinks they are better and changing their name!!!
Anyway, my biggest gripe is about Monica Lewinsky. Every time I see her name on the AP wire I want to punch myself in the face. I don't care what she does in her life, nor did I ever. She went down on the President, BFD! She didn't clean the dress, nasty. But does that mean she should have her own line of purses? So, because she got on her knees for Billy C. the press has to follow her around for the rest of time. Hey Monica, suck on this: SHUT THE HELL UP!
Originally posted by HECK D.Ka, K-Girl... I am now H.ECK!
Anyway, my biggest gripe is about Monica Lewinsky. Every time I see her name on the AP wire I want to punch myself in the face. I don't care what she does in her life, nor did I ever. She went down on the President, BFD! She didn't clean the dress, nasty. But does that mean she should have her own line of purses? So, because she got on her knees for Billy C. the press has to follow her around for the rest of time. Hey Monica, suck on this: SHUT THE HELL UP!
-HECK!
OMG! HECK, you are killing me!
Viagra commercials and the new Levitra or whatever the $%#@ they are calling it. Are there really that many men who can't get it up. We don't care and we don't want to think about old guys that way. SHUT THE HELL UP!
Kirstie Alley and all those DUMB, LAME Pier One commercials.
SHUT THE HELL UP!! We're sick of you and that store already.
Can you go back to acting in semi-good movies?
Buffoons with car stereos meander down neighborhood streets broadcasting a bass thumping cacophony of hip-hop blubbering. These mindless knuckleheads spend hundreds of dollars to get noticed at neighborhood stop lights. Yet, they pretend to ignore everyone around them though they're starving for attention. To the fools with car-fi woofers we say "SHUT THE HELL UP!"
Many of us live around people who watch television at logic defying volumes. Contrary to the belief of many, "Wheel of Fortune" CAN be too loud. But what's worse than a loud TV being watched is a loud TV not being watched. Turn off your television before you leave home and SHUT THE HELL UP.
Won't somebody think of the children? How can we not think of the children. No other nation spoils it's children like America. They're everywhere and they are loud. This generation of coddled brats cries out for attention everywhere they go and their parents don't seem to give a damn about the noise. Toddlers shriek in book stores and restaurants as mom and dad pretend it's not happening. Well mom and dad, it is happening. When junior is acting up it's time to skip Old Navy for today, because your numerous empty threats still aren't working. How about "Teenagers and movie theaters." The very phrase increases home video sales. Shut-up Brandon, Shut-up Crystal, Shut-up Trevor, Shut-up Kyle, Shut-up Brittany, Shut-up Katlyn, Shut-up Cody. SHUT THE HELL UP and watch the film quietly.
Originally posted by HECK D.Ka, K-Girl... I am now H.ECK!
Anyway, my biggest gripe is about Monica Lewinsky. Every time I see her name on the AP wire I want to punch myself in the face. I don't care what she does in her life, nor did I ever. She went down on the President, BFD! She didn't clean the dress, nasty. But does that mean she should have her own line of purses? So, because she got on her knees for Billy C. the press has to follow her around for the rest of time. Hey Monica, suck on this: SHUT THE HELL UP!
-HECK!
That reminds me of a saying, you know you're famous when someone performs felacio on you and THEY become famous.
Monica Lewinski...the most famous mouth in the world!
Anna Nicole Smith, you are nothing more than a white trash bimbo airhead who married a 90 year old geezer for his fortune and tried to convince the world, "It's love, we want children..." bulls**t!! You're so whiny and SO IRRITATING. Fade away and please for the love of God, SHUT THE HELL UP!
Many of our nation's troglodyte-like citizens enjoy revving an automobile engine without realizing that it is never necessary. Never. Revving ones engine is a metaphor for masturbation. To you we say do your dirty business out of earshot of others or SHUT THE HELL UP!.
Exploding firecrackers and other small explosives is a similar form of audio masturbation. Such noise is rarely enjoyed by anyone other than the slack-jawed dummy who lit the fuse. Clinical studies have proven that crushing an aluminum can against ones forehead is a viable alternative. Please refrain from the use of small fireworks and SHUT THE HELL UP!.
For the downstairs apartment dweller the following is true: The people who live upstairs seem to have no toes. They stomp around on what sounds like wooden stumps, bounding from one room to the other without a logical purpose. Hey upstairs neighbor, stop walking on your heels and SHUT THE HELL UP!
People who talk on their cell phones in the car and don't look where they are going. Do you really think talking to your friends is more important than say actually stopping at a stop sign.
SHUT THE HELL UP!
Kris I will do it for you. Russell Crowe. Dude, get over it. You are a movie star. Part of that is having your picture taken even though you are a psychotic ass. People want to know about you, so freakin' deal with it and SHUT THE HELL UP!!
President G.W. Bush... all your talk about marriage is sacred and only for a man and a woman! How in the HELL can you call it sacred when husbands are beating on their wives? Is that sacred? HELL NO! How about cheating spouses? How about people who get married to bring illegals into our country? Or for financial purposes? That's not sacred!!! SHUT THE HELL UP!
All the people who live here and refuse to learn English. I go to the park, they speak spanish and talk about you. You dumb people I speak spanish. Hello! I understood what you said and your spanish sounds like a prostitute is speaking it. SHUT THE HELL UP ! O CAITE LA BOCA!!!!-note it has been a decade since I have written any spanish, so that might have been spelled wrong.
How about this one guys... SHUT THE HELL UP is a mixed alcoholic beverage also!!!
Shut the hell up
Ingredients:
1/2 part Bacardi 151 proof rum
1 part Crown Royal
1 part Jägermeister
1/2 part Everclear
2 splashes Grenadine
Mixing instructions:
Pour Jager at bottom of glass. Mix Crown, Everclear, & 151 separately to layer on top of the Jager. Splash the Grenadine. Attempt to shoot & SHUT THE HELL UP.
Better yet... why not just improve on your native language... ENGLISH!
Can't people learn to speak proper, instead of using ebonics and street slang? All you people who do... SHUT THE HELL UP! Get an education!
How about those idiots who spray graffiti on everything and call it art. Yeah, that is art and my bird makes "art" in the bottom of his cage. SHUT THE HELL UP!
I got one more and then I am going to quit cold turkey, because this is just way way way to addictive.
To all the people, male or female on the various Bachelor and Bachlorette shows, who sooner or later give some silly goofball speech and talk about "our journey together......"
All of you reality love show people, SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!!!!!
(edited out bad spelling of Bachlorette..........bad spellers, shut the hell up!)
All of those dumb people who hear that a friend has a fertility problem and say stuff like "wow, it was sooo easy for me" and crap like that. Sheesh. SHUT THE HELL UP!!!
SPAM creators and Telemarketers- Look, I know that you're trying to make a living. I don't want you to starve. You have as much right to make money as anyone. It's the American way.
But if I ever see you in the street, I will bring forth the power of all Three Stooges, including Shemp and Curley Joe (both of them) and kick the ever-loving crap out of you while people laugh beacuse you're being pummeled with eye-gouges and slick punch misdirections. I will do the Curley Shuffle on your face and 'nuck 'nuck 'nuck on you until the part of your brain that knows how to send Spam or run a telemarketing business oozes out of your pointy head. Then I'll find people that look like you and tap dance on their ass like I was Ben Vareen.
To sum up, leave me the hell alone, and SHUT THE HELL UP!
SPAM creators and Telemarketers- Look, I know that you're trying to make a living. I don't want you to starve. You have as much right to make money as anyone. It's the American way.
But if I ever see you in the street, I will bring forth the power of all Three Stooges, including Shemp and Curley Joe (both of them) and kick the ever-loving crap out of you while people laugh beacuse you're being pummeled with eye-gouges and slick punch misdirections. I will do the Curley Shuffle on your face and 'nuck 'nuck 'nuck on you until the part of your brain that knows how to send Spam or run a telemarketing business oozes out of your pointy head. Then I'll find people that look like you and tap dance on their ass like I was Ben Vareen.
To sum up, leave me the hell alone, and SHUT THE HELL UP!
How about when you're at the mall, shopping, and you have these people that keep coming up to you, all over the place, with clipboards asking if you would like to take a survey!! SHUT THE HELL UP and get a real job. I'm so damn sick and tired of those people!! One of these days, when I'm having a REALLY crappy day, I might just end up slugging one of them. You tell them no, that you don't want to do one, and while you're walking away they say, "Thank you so much, ma'am. You have a fine day now!" SHUT THE HELL UP!
All you SUV-driving cell-phone talking yuppies who stand in line talking with an absurdly loud voice like you're important because you're talking on a cell-phone, and all the people who take out their cell-phones every five minutes and pick a random number from you directory because you have the attention span of a TV-addicted pothead gizmo-nerd, and all the people who you can't have more than a 3-minute conversation with because their cell-phone interrupts, OR ANYONE WHO OWNS A CELL PHONE, HOLY MOLY SHUT THE HELL UP!
Liberal pro-choice gay-marriage anti-war pro-legalization idiots: SHUT THE HELL UP
Conservative pro-life anti-gay-marriage pro-war anti-legalization idiots: SHUT THE HELL UP!
All you whiners who post on this thread complaining about who you want to shut the hell up because you have nothing important to do with your lives: SHUT THE HELL UP!
Anyone who tells anyone else to shut the hell up: SHUT THE HELL UP!
Originally posted by Dekka00 All you SUV-driving cell-phone talking yuppies who stand in line talking with an absurdly loud voice like you're important because you're talking on a cell-phone, and all the people who take out their cell-phones every five minutes and pick a random number from you directory because you have the attention span of a TV-addicted pothead gizmo-nerd, and all the people who you can't have more than a 3-minute conversation with because their cell-phone interrupts, OR ANYONE WHO OWNS A CELL PHONE, HOLY MOLY SHUT THE HELL UP!
Liberal pro-choice gay-marriage anti-war pro-legalization idiots: SHUT THE HELL UP
Conservative pro-life anti-gay-marriage pro-war anti-legalization idiots: SHUT THE HELL UP!
All you whiners who post on this thread complaining about who you want to shut the hell up because you have nothing important to do with your lives: SHUT THE HELL UP!
Anyone who tells anyone else to shut the hell up: SHUT THE HELL UP!
I'm right and you're wrong: SO SHUT THE HELL UP!
Oh, and one more thing: SHUT THE HELL UP!
Oh man, I almost fell off my chair!!! Dekka, its hard to beat you at this stuff!!!
All those people who look for trouble and beg for insulting remarks because they consider it to be fun or cool, or maybe just time-consuming...
SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!!
All those people who are constantly complaining about this ache or that sore, and who just can't seem to say anything good about the way they feel just to garner some sympathy, which they seem to mistake for caring or friendship... SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!
To anyone who doesn't like the creativity and wackiness of the 1980's.... SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!
To all of you stupid teenagers who think that it's cool to cuss and swear on the bus, when it's full of little toddlers and children under 4... You dim-witted idiots, that's just not cool... You don't realize how stupid you look, especially since you've decided to speak at a level that allows the entire bus, and even those on the sidewalks, to hear your every word in perfect clarity... We all can hear that you have absolutely nothing in your head, because your conversation is non-existent... If you have the urge to speak, think it through before you do, and save yourself some embarrassment. Otherwise, SHUT THE HELL UP!!!
Well said Sierradaddy. I hate those people who use the f word in front of kids. Cussing does not make you an adult. It makes you a dolt. SHUT THE HELL UP!!!
Cussing does not make you adult, it makes you a dolt!
Keanu Reeves, and any other low-talent people who are fortunate enough to gain success in the field of their lowly talents, but when interviewed about their works, try to sound OH-SO-RESPECTABLE... PLEASE.... Recognize that you aren't very talented, you got lucky or your other attributes got you your success, and revel in that. Be real, and respect those who pay good money to see the works that you've had a hand in by not lying to yourself and to them, and SHUT THE HELL UP!!!
Your carreers are already over. You think it's just the beginning? Well, it is. But it's the beginning of the end. Because you're semi-marketable, you'll be used by the rich people around you to sell out before you're old enough to *legally* get smashed and create a terribly embarrassing headline.
I think of the two of you as one person. Named: Maryashinkate. So before you (assuming you haven't already) make your first music video (without a singing voice to speak of), go write yourself a fail-safe check just in case this hole being famous-fir-life gig doesn't work out.
And because I know you'll write a 300-page autobiography of yourself about your "sad" hollywood childhood, no, I don't want a signed copy, and please, shut the hell up!!!!!
SHUT THE HELL UP ! all the people who say inane, trite things just to say something ... for example :
-- To the endless people who say to you "Have a nice day" when they couldn't care less. SHUT THE HELL UP !
-- To the server with the visible Name Tag who approaches your table and says "Hello, I'm ______ , and I'll be your server today." Oh really ? And here we thought you were the mailman. SHUT THE HELL UP !
-- To the people who say "Have a good trip" when you are going on vacation. What ? You're planning to have a BAD trip ? SHUT THE HELL UP !
-- You're getting over a cold, haven't been able to sleep, are still scratchy thoated and can barely talk. To the people who say, "Oh. Are you sick ? You don't look so good". SHUT THE HELL UP !
To people who call or visit someone in the hospital and ask "How are you feeling ? " Duh ? SHUT THE HELL UP !
To the stoopid people who are newish to the Flamer's Ward -- and enter a thread that has them laughing their A@@ off, -- and who find it irresistable -- and who have read it and are pretty sure they aren't duplicating -- and so post even though' they aren't totally sure why or what the hell they are doing ...
Sports casters & Car commercials.
HELLO! I'm not deaf I can hear you! Why do these people YELL everything? Do they contain so much testosterone that it explodes out of their vocal cords? Sell em a car in a calm tone. Tell me what team is winning without exploding out of my TV speakers. Thankfully, for my safety I don't have surround sound. Whew!
Music Industry:
People wouldn't download music if you lowered the prices. And had some real talent making CD's. And how come every maxi single I want is an import? Is it about $$$ or music? And now they are suing people for downloading? HELLO, ever heard of a CD burner? Anyone can burn a CD and still share it, even if the online services disappear. (personally I don't download music off the net so this seems really dumb to me, the lawsuits that is).
So to them I say SHUT THE FRICKIN HECK-O-RAMA UP!!
Laughing so hard that you pee your pants is a figure of speech, but it's a figure of speech based on real events. I've only seen it happen twice in my life. It happens to girls a lot easier for some reason, especially when they're drunk.
Or laughing so hard that you cry. That's the greatest. LSHTIOTFPWMSSCAPMP: Laughing so hard that I'm on the floor paralyzed with my sides splitting, crying, and peeing my pants.
Dekka00 said this in post #109 : Laughing so hard that you pee your pants is a figure of speech, but it's a figure of speech based on real events. I've only seen it happen twice in my life. It happens to girls a lot easier for some reason, especially when they're drunk.
Or laughing so hard that you cry. That's the greatest. LSHTIOTFPWMSSCAPMP: Laughing so hard that I'm on the floor paralyzed with my sides splitting, crying, and peeing my pants.
(just doesn't have the same effect)
SHUT THE HELL UP!!!
lovin' this thread! 
Great job HECK. Pamela Lee or whatever the hell she is calling herself is on my list too. 
She loves me too, I'm her buddy. 
Anyone can burn a CD and still share it, even if the online services disappear. (personally I don't download music off the net so this seems really dumb to me, the lawsuits that is).