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Posted by: Truthful

The second kind of wars fought in the Middle East, can be classified as part of the armed struggle for the expansionism of Zionism. During the hostilities of 1948-1949, the entire blame was put on the Palestinians and their neighbouring Muslim countries for their 'attacks' on Israel. It has been argued that the Jews had to come in retaliation and, in this process, ended up annexing more territory in their area. But in 1967, Israel's war of aggression was entirely for the purpose of expansion. There was no element of self-defence involved. It was waged in such a dreadful and destructive manner that the countries of Egypt, Syria, and Jordan were decimated within a few days, and it resulted in further expansion of Israeli territory. Therefore Israel succeeded in occupying territory that is many times larger than the territory originally allocated to her under the 1948 Mandate.

Now I will give you a brief account of the continued Zionist expansionism so that you may have some idea of the extent to which the Israelis have enlarged their territory, are still doing so, and would continue to do so in the future.

It was probably in 1937 that for the first time the British government announced, in the context of the Balfour declaration of 1917, how much territory would be allocated for the Jewish state. An area of 5000 sq. km. was earmarked for the Jewish state, but towards the end of 1947, when the matter was reviewed by the UN the area increased to 20,000 sq. km. Some additional territory was annexed by Israel during hostilities with Palestinians and Arabs, in the following 2 years, as stated earlier. In this process an area of 88,000 sq. km. came under the control of the Israelis by the end of 1967. Thus one can well imagine that starting from a nominal figure of 5000 sq. km., how rapidly Israeli territory was expanded to 88,000 sq. km.

In October of 1973 the "War of Yom Kippur" (passover day, a holy day for Jews) was fought. On that day in 1973, Israel came under attack by the join forces of Egypt, Syria, and Jordan. It is alleged that this war of aggression was inititiated by Arabs and that the Jews are blameless, but this is not entirely correct. The reason is that after the war of 1967, the UN security council unanimously passed Resolution No. 642 censuring Israel and ordering it to withdraw its forces from the occupied territory which had fallen in its hand during the hostilities. But at the same time mischievous lacuna was left in the resolution (as is normal with the British and Western diplomacies) so that when the time for implementation of this resolution arrives, new debates can be started on the supplementery issues to confuse the matter. So this provision in the resolution mentioned that it would regard the right of all states in the region safeguarded so that their geographical boundaries are not endangered or threatened. The motive behind the resolution was that when time approached for implementation of the resolution, the the provision could be stretched to make the resolution ineffective, in the interest of Jews, by saying that the security of Israel demands that such and such territorial changes and adjustetments be made prior to its implementation. Consequently none of the provisions of the resolution have so far been complied and the matter remains suspended since the 1967 war. The hostilities of 1973 took place because the Arabs had, eventually, decided to try to recover their own land. To call this action aggression is quite unjust. This was the effort of a weak and oppressed nation. As the great powers were not helpful to have a UN resolution implemented, they thought of making an attempt of their own.

To summarize the case, it is quite apparrent now that these powerful Western nations have given Israel the right to resort to the use of force whenever and wherever it desires. It has the right to refuse to vacate the territory forcibly acquired, even if the Security Council of the UN decides that is should withdraw from its occupied lands. On the contrary the aggrieved countries whose territories have been occupied by Israel have no right even to make their own efforts to get a UN resolution implemented. But Israel enjoys total immunity and freedom to do whatever it chooses.

One thing I could not mention earlier was that during the period of 1947-1949, Israel laid the foundation of modern day terrorist activities, under the command of Menachem Begin. A British Deputy Governor of Palestine was among those killed as a result of these terrorist activities. The king David Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, resulting in the death of 100 people, besides causing a huge loss in property. Palestinians were openly attacked, resulting the slaughter of 3000 Muslim men, women, and children in a short period of time. They even clashed with the British, for the reason that in those days the Labour Governement in Britain, and Mr. Bevin who was its foreign secretery, were convinced that the Muslims were oppressed and the Jews were committing the atrocities. Mr. Bevin even made some efforts to stop illegal immigration of the Jews into Palestine. To quote one instance, the British forces intercepted a ship carrying 4000 Jews intending to enter Palestine illegally. Mr. Bevin ordered them back to Germany. The Western journalists villified him, even though he had been entrusted by the trustees of that region with the responibility of not allowing anymore Jews illegally into Palestine. Regarding this James Cameron even writes in his book "The Making of Israel" how unjust it was to send them back to the cruel and unfortunate land of Germany- although this was 1949, 2 years after the war. At a time when British and American forces had established their occupation in Germany and were guarantors for Jewish protection. These events lend support to my contention that modern day terrorism was invented and initiated by the Jews for the purpose of helping Zionist immigrants to safety. The historical background shows that the western powers accept the right of the Jews to carry out terrorism and that these activities were not to be termed "Jewish terrorism". On the other hand, the Muslim countries are not even allowed to retaliate to protect their territorial and political interests, and if they do so then not only are they censured but even Islam is slandered and such efforts are maliciously termed "Islamic Terrorism". The other rights and privileges which appear to have been accorded to the Jews are that:


1. The Jews have the right to defy the Security Council resolutions and they even have the right to regard these resolutions with contempt, reject them or toss them into the proverbial trash can. Yet no country has the right to condemn this behaviour.

2. Israel has the right to alter the geographical boundaries of its neighbouring countries on the pretext of its security considerations.

3. Israel has the right to produce and stockpile atomic bombs and other nuclear devices. It can even manufacture chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction.

No one seems to have the right, particularly Muslim countries, even to criticize Israel for indulging in such activities.


(excerpts taken from "THE GULF CRISIS AND THE NEW WORLD ORDER" by Hazrat Khalifatul Masih Rabbi (Rehmullatalla)-Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad (RU). This book was published in 1992, and it seems that the predictions made in this book are coming true in front of our own eyes)

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Posted by: Merkava

As for the 1967 War...

A combination of bellicose Arab rhetoric, threatening behavior and, ultimately, an act of war left Israel no choice but preemptive action. To do this successfully, Israel needed the element of surprise. Had it waited for an Arab invasion, Israel would have been at a potentially catastrophic disadvantage.

While Nasser continued to make speeches threatening war, Arab terrorist attacks grew more frequent. In 1965, 35 raids were conducted against Israel. In 1966, the number increased to 41. In just the first four months of 1967, 37 attacks were launched.5

Meanwhile, Syria's attacks on Israeli kibbutzim from the Golan Heights provoked a retaliatory strike on April 7, 1967, during which Israeli planes shot down six Syrian MiGs. Shortly thereafter, the Soviet Union — which had been providing military and economic aid to both Syria and Egypt — gave Damascus information alleging a massive Israeli military buildup in preparation for an attack. Despite Israeli denials, Syria decided to invoke its defense treaty with Egypt.

On May 15, Israel's Independence Day, Egyptian troops began moving into the Sinai and massing near the Israeli border. By May 18, Syrian troops were prepared for battle along the Golan Heights.

Nasser ordered the UN Emergency Force, stationed in the Sinai since 1956, to withdraw on May 16. Without bringing the matter to the attention of the General Assembly, as his predecessor had promised, Secretary-General U Thant complied with the demand. After the withdrawal of the UNEF, the Voice of the Arabs proclaimed (May 18, 1967):

As of today, there no longer exists an international emergency force to protect Israel. We shall exercise patience no more. We shall not complain any more to the UN about Israel. The sole method we shall apply against Israel is total war, which will result in the extermination of Zionist existence.6

An enthusiastic echo was heard May 20 from Syrian Defense Minister Hafez Assad:

Our forces are now entirely ready not only to repulse the aggression, but to initiate the act of liberation itself, and to explode the Zionist presence in the Arab homeland. The Syrian army, with its finger on the trigger, is united....I, as a military man, believe that the time has come to enter into a battle of annihilation.7

On May 22, Egypt closed the Straits of Tiran to all Israeli shipping and all ships bound for Eilat. This blockade cut off Israel's only supply route with Asia and stopped the flow of oil from its main supplier, Iran. The following day, President Johnson expressed the belief that the blockade was illegal and unsuccessfully tried to organize an international flotilla to test it.

Nasser was fully aware of the pressure he was exerting to force Israel's hand. The day after the blockade was set up, he said defiantly: "The Jews threaten to make war. I reply: Welcome! We are ready for war."8

Nasser challenged Israel to fight almost daily. "Our basic objective will be the destruction of Israel. The Arab people want to fight," he said on May 27.9 The following day, he added: "We will not accept any...coexistence with Israel...Today the issue is not the establishment of peace between the Arab states and Israel....The war with Israel is in effect since 1948."10

King Hussein of Jordan signed a defense pact with Egypt on May 30. Nasser then announced:

The armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon are poised on the borders of Israel...to face the challenge, while standing behind us are the armies of Iraq, Algeria, Kuwait, Sudan and the whole Arab nation. This act will astound the world. Today they will know that the Arabs are arranged for battle, the critical hour has arrived. We have reached the stage of serious action and not declarations.11

President Abdur Rahman Aref of Iraq joined in the war of words: "The existence of Israel is an error which must be rectified. This is our opportunity to wipe out the ignominy which has been with us since 1948. Our goal is clear -- to wipe Israel off the map."12 On June 4, Iraq joined the military alliance with Egypt, Jordan and Syria.

The Arab rhetoric was matched by the mobilization of Arab forces. Approximately 250,000 troops (nearly half in Sinai), more than 2,000 tanks and 700 aircraft ringed Israel.13

By this time, Israeli forces had been on alert for three weeks. The country could not remain fully mobilized indefinitely, nor could it allow its sea lane through the Gulf of Aqaba to be interdicted. Israel's best option was to strike first.On June 5, the order was given to attack Egypt.

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Posted by: Merkava

As for "Stealing land"...

Prime Minister Levi Eshkol sent a message to King Hussein saying Israel would not attack Jordan unless he initiated hostilities. When Jordanian radar picked up a cluster of planes flying from Egypt to Israel, and the Egyptians convinced Hussein the planes were theirs, he then ordered the shelling of West Jerusalem. It turned out the planes were Israel's, and were returning from destroying the Egyptian air force on the ground. Meanwhile, Syrian and Iraqi troops attacked Israel's northern frontier.

Had Jordan not attacked, the status of Jerusalem would not have changed during the course of the war. Once the city came under fire, however, Israel needed to defend it, and, in doing so, took the opportunity to unify its capital once and for all.

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Posted by: Truthful

Are you listening to yourself? What did I just write? What right did it have to take more land? You can not sway people with your fallacious logic.

Resolution No. 642 censuring Israel and ordering it to withdraw its forces from the occupied territory which had fallen in its hand during the hostilities. But at the same time mischievous lacuna was left in the resolution (as is normal with the British and Western diplomacies) so that when the time for implementation of this resolution arrives, new debates can be started on the supplementery issues to confuse the matter. So this provision in the resolution mentioned that it would regard the right of all states in the region safeguarded so that their geographical boundaries are not endangered or threatened. The motive behind the resolution was that when time approached for implementation of the resolution, the the provision could be stretched to make the resolution ineffective, in the interest of Jews, by saying that the security of Israel demands that such and such territorial changes and adjustetments be made prior to its implementation. Consequently none of the provisions of the resolution have so far been complied and the matter remains suspended since the 1967 war. The hostilities of 1973 took place because the Arabs had, eventually, decided to try to recover their own land. To call this action aggression is quite unjust. This was the effort of a weak and oppressed nation. As the great powers were not helpful to have a UN resolution implemented, they thought of making an attempt of their own.

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Posted by: Truthful

Palestinians were openly attacked, resulting the slaughter of 3000 Muslim men, women, and children in a short period of time. They even clashed with the British, for the reason that in those days the Labour Governement in Britain, and Mr. Bevin who was its foreign secretery, were convinced that the Muslims were oppressed and the Jews were committing the atrocities. Mr. Bevin even made some efforts to stop illegal immigration of the Jews into Palestine. To quote one instance, the British forces intercepted a ship carrying 4000 Jews intending to enter Palestine illegally. Mr. Bevin ordered them back to Germany. The Western journalists villified him, even though he had been entrusted by the trustees of that region with the responibility of not allowing anymore Jews illegally into Palestine. Regarding this James Cameron even writes in his book "The Making of Israel" how unjust it was to send them back to the cruel and unfortunate land of Germany- although this was 1949, 2 years after the war. At a time when British and American forces had established their occupation in Germany and were guarantors for Jewish protection. These events lend support to my contention that modern day terrorism was invented and initiated by the Jews for the purpose of helping Zionist immigrants to safety.

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Posted by: Truthful

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Originally posted by Merkava
As for "Stealing land"...

Prime Minister Levi Eshkol sent a message to King Hussein saying Israel would not attack Jordan unless he initiated hostilities. When Jordanian radar picked up a cluster of planes flying from Egypt to Israel, and the Egyptians convinced Hussein the planes were theirs, he then ordered the shelling of West Jerusalem. It turned out the planes were Israel's, and were returning from destroying the Egyptian air force on the ground. Meanwhile, Syrian and Iraqi troops attacked Israel's northern frontier.

Had Jordan not attacked, the status of Jerusalem would not have changed during the course of the war. Once the city came under fire, however, Israel needed to defend it, and, in doing so, took the opportunity to unify its capital once and for all.


What does this have to do with Israel expanding? Does this justify their expansion? When Saddam Hussein occupied Kuwait and disobeyed a UN resolution he was attacked by 30 countries, why doesn't Israel have the same fate? Don't tell me that Israel fought in defense, there have been instances in which Israel made up an excuse to fight wars just for expansion. The facts don't lie, is Israel larger than it was orignally or not? The original mandate was for Israel to be only 5,000 sq. km. Justify their expansion!
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Posted by: Merkava

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Originally posted by Truthful
Resolution No. 642 censuring Israel and ordering it to withdraw its forces from the occupied territory which had fallen in its hand during the hostilities. But at the same time mischievous lacuna was left in the resolution (as is normal with the British and Western diplomacies) so that when the time for implementation of this resolution arrives, new debates can be started on the supplementery issues to confuse the matter. So this provision in the resolution mentioned that it would regard the right of all states in the region safeguarded so that their geographical boundaries are not endangered or threatened. The motive behind the resolution was that when time approached for implementation of the resolution, the the provision could be stretched to make the resolution ineffective, in the interest of Jews, by saying that the security of Israel demands that such and such territorial changes and adjustetments be made prior to its implementation. Consequently none of the provisions of the resolution have so far been complied and the matter remains suspended since the 1967 war.


They have remained that way because the Palestinians refuse to stop supporting terrorism, and the two sides have yet to reach peaceful agreements. This is all despite the fact that Israel has offered the Palestinians their own state numerous times.

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Originally posted by Truthful
he hostilities of 1973 took place because the Arabs had, eventually, decided to try to recover their own land. To call this action aggression is quite unjust.


Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia (economically), all waged war against the tiny state of Israel during the Holiest Day in Judaism. They did this with the full intention of "Pushing the Jews to the sea".

Yet you have the gut to say it was Israels Fault!. Wow! I guess the Arabs can do NO wrong in your mind!



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Originally posted by Truthful
This was the effort of a weak and oppressed nation. As the great powers were not helpful to have a UN resolution implemented, they thought of making an attempt of their own.


Weak and oppressed nation?! Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq....weak and oppressed nations!
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Posted by: Truthful

Who has the world at their heel? Is it the oppressed nations of the third world or is it Israel? Israel has America on its leash, anything for the benefit of Israel America does. The only reason that resolution no. 642 didn't get vetoed by the US was because it was strangely worded and left room for argument. Any strong-worded resolution has been shot down by the US against Israel for years. Do you think I am ignorant to your deception? When you have the US as an ally, obviously you have an advantage over everyone. Of course Palestine doesn't condone terrorism. But you have to fight back the Zionist oppression somehow, and they cannot think of any other way. When these Palestinians accept Ahmadiyyat, avenues of mercy shall be opened up for them. Their supplications will disintegrate the state of Israel if it is unjust. God's curse be on the liars. The only thing the Arab's do wrong is not put their faith in God. The Jews reject signs of God continually, and therefore have no faith in him. The God of Islam will always protect his humble servants. When the Palestinians direct their prayers to God then they shall be assured victory. Surely, "freemasons shall never rule over you" was the revelation revealed to the Promised Messiah (AS). It was revealed in 1901 when there was no hint of a Zionist conspiracy. Most assuredly, they will be helped.

Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq are weak and oppressed. Iraq is reduced to rubble. Egypt is under a peace treaty that prevents them from doing anything. Syria and Jordan face ramifications if they dare look in Israel's direction with contempt. What do you call this? You call this a strengthened nation? I don't blame the Zionists for the Middle East's problems. I blame the corrupt Muslim leaders who have been given a perfect book, and did not act upon its teachings. Muslim states should always decide matters amongst themselves. They should never go around seeking aid from anyone. I blame them for weakening the Middle East. I blame Bush 1 for declaring a war that in abeyyance to Israel in 1991.

Anyhow, I suggest you read the book "The Gulf Crisis and the New World Order". It is written by the 4th Khalifa to the Promised Messiah (AS).

Also, you need to stop concealing facts. There was a time when Palestinians had done nothing wrong and Israel attacked them to gain land. Don't worry I'll pull out the reference soon. You can try your deception again if you'd like. I'll be most happy to point it out.

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Posted by: Merkava

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Originally posted by Truthful
Who has the world at their heel? Is it the oppressed nations of the third world or is it Israel? Israel has America on its leash, anything for the benefit of Israel America does. The only reason that resolution no. 642 didn't get vetoed by the US was because it was strangely worded and left room for argument.


This rhetoric is getting old.

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Originally posted by Truthful
Any strong-worded resolution has been shot down by the US against Israel for years.


This is mainly because each of the 22 -Arab nations gets a vote in the UN.
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Originally posted by Truthful
Do you think I am ignorant to your deception? When you have the US as an ally, obviously you have an advantage over everyone.


Uhh, news flash buddy, The Arabs had the USSR as an ally and supporter all through the 60's and 70's, whereas the US didnt support Israel until AFTER the 1973 war.


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Originally posted by Truthful
Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq are weak and oppressed. Iraq is reduced to rubble. Egypt is under a peace treaty that prevents them from doing anything. Syria and Jordan face ramifications if they dare look in Israel's direction with contempt.


Despite all of this, 50 years ago they all had a much stronger Military than Israel did.


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Originally posted by Truthful
I don't blame the Zionists for the Middle East's problems. I blame the corrupt Muslim leaders who have been given a perfect book, and did not act upon its teachings.


Finally! We Agree!

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Originally posted by Truthful
There was a time when Palestinians had done nothing wrong and Israel attacked them to gain land. Don't worry I'll pull out the reference soon. You can try your deception again if you'd like. I'll be most happy to point it out.


If this were true, dont you think the Jews would have forced the Palestinians to leave after conquering the West bank in 1967?
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Posted by: Truthful

Your brainwashed as well, its too bad. Maybe your in on the conspiracy who knows. Anyhow, obviously if the whole UN was behind the creation of Israel, WHO WAS STRONGER ISRAEL OR PALESTINE???? Only 5 nations have veto power, and one of them is the US! Stop trying to deceive people as usual.

Your rhetoric is getting old as well and tired. I have already cracked through it. Do you try to be deceptive or have you been completely brainwashed? 5 nations got veto power, let me spell that out f-i-v-e. It doesn't matter if the whole world is for something, if the US rejects it, it doesn't go through. Israel might not have had a strong army, but the UN forces did. Stop trying to trick the ignorant.

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Posted by: Merkava

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Originally posted by Truthful
Your brainwashed as well, its too bad. Maybe your in on the conspiracy who knows.





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Originally posted by Truthful
Anyhow, obviously if the whole UN was behind the creation of Israel, WHO WAS STRONGER ISRAEL OR PALESTINE???? Only 5 nations have veto power, and one of them is the US! Stop trying to deceive people as usual.


The UN assembly voted with a 2/3rds majority to give the Jews land compirsed of 75% desert. This assembly included Canada, Czechoslovakia, Guatemala, The Netherlands, Peru, Sweden and Uruguay





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Originally posted by Truthful
Your rhetoric is getting old as well and tired. I have already cracked through it. Do you try to be deceptive or have you been completely brainwashed? 5 nations got veto power, let me spell that out f-i-v-e. It doesn't matter if the whole world is for something, if the US rejects it, it doesn't go through. Israel might not have had a strong army, but the UN forces did. Stop trying to trick the ignorant.


The Countries in the UN that chose voted for Israel's creaiton included - Canada, Czechoslovakia, Guatemala, The Netherlands, Peru, Sweden and Uruguay - what does this have to do with the US's ability to veto?

Now, 22 Arab nations have a vote in the UN - do I need to spell that out for you?
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Posted by: Truthful

I already won this argument. You already said that Arabs have the right to defend themselves against Jewsih expansionism. I already said that the UN created Israel. The US is the one stopping the rest of the world from imposing justice on it right now. They veto any strongly worded resolutions passed against Israel. You can stop trying to trick people anytime now. You already lost. Your defeat is in my signature.

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Posted by: Merkava

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Originally posted by Truthful
I already won this argument. You already said that Arabs have the right to defend themselves against Jewsih expansionism. I already said that the UN created Israel. The US is the one stopping the rest of the world from imposing justice on it right now. They veto any strongly worded resolutions passed against Israel. You can stop trying to trick people anytime now. You already lost. Your defeat is in my signature.


I said the Jews had a right to the land they originally claimed (before ISLAM even existed!)

The US veto's any biased Resoultion passed by the 22-Arab-nations which make the UN.

I find it pathetic that you keep reassuring yourself that "you won".
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Posted by: Truthful

Too bad, the prophecy was the Jews will never ascend the Throne of David permanently. I won! HAHA, i can see right through your fake facade and see your frustration! Your defeat is bolded in my signature. I don't know if your stupid or what, I said the UN created Israel. Now the UN wants to control it, but the US vetoes any strongly-worded resolution against Israel.

Gosh, Judaism is a dead religion. No one is attracted to such a hard-hearted religion. Your own forefathers worshipped a calf after receiving clear signs from a living God. Islam is a living religion and has a living God. When the Muslims turn towards Ahmadiyyat-the true Islam- the victory of Islam will be quick.

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Posted by: Merkava

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Originally posted by Truthful
Too bad, the prophecy was the Jews will never ascend the Throne of David permanently.


I hate to burst your bubble, but religious mumbo jumbo doesnt make for a good argument here.

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Originally posted by Truthful
I said the UN created Israel. Now the UN wants to control it, but the US vetoes any strongly-worded resolution against Israel.


And I have already showed you how Biased the UN has become.

Right here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3241884.stm

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Originally posted by Truthful
Gosh, Judaism is a dead religion. No one is attracted to such a hard-hearted religion. Your own forefathers worshipped a calf after receiving clear signs from a living God. Islam is a living religion and has a living God. When the Muslims turn towards Ahmadiyyat-the true Islam- the victory of Islam will be quick.


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Posted by: Truthful

Haha. This is funny. Your so frustrated. You already lost. Anyhow, I'll answer your question for the 100th time. Let me make it easy for you.
First of all, the UN made Israel. That was the past.

Now:
UN want Israel give up land.
US veto it.
End of story.

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Posted by: Merkava

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Originally posted by Truthful
Haha. This is funny. Your so frustrated. You already lost. Anyhow, I'll answer your question for the 100th time. Let me make it easy for you.
First of all, the UN made Israel. That was the past.


Im frustrated? Im not the one dropping to personal attacks and religious bashing.

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Originally posted by Truthful
Now:
UN want Israel give up land.
US veto it.
End of story.


EXACTLY what land does the UN want Israel to give up?

EXACTLY which resolution did the US veto?

Your posts are far from compelling arguments.

Lastly, The only people who "created" Israel was the people who faught for its independence when the Arabs attacked in 1948.
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Posted by: Truthful

I'm not religion bashing. It's the truth. Are you blind. Resolution no. 642! Sing it with me now. You already lost. Check out my signature.

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Posted by: Merkava

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Originally posted by Truthful
I'm not religion bashing. It's the truth. Are you blind. Resolution no. 642! Sing it with me now. You already lost. Check out my signature.


.UN Resolution 642 has nothing to do with Israel, or the Palestinians.

It deals with Iran and Iraq.

Check your "facts" - it seems youre wrong once again.
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Posted by: Barbed wire

Merkava and Truthful

You both need a wall between you as well as Palestinians and Israelites.

One says: you're doing unjustly the other: we've taken the land by sword (Vae victis) and try to take it away from us.

Religion is opium for the people.

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Posted by: Truthful

I agree, Merkava might kill me if she met me face to face. Tee hee hee. Keep a lid on your anger Merkava, I am only laying bare your deceit. Anyhow, is it true or not that the UN tries to pass resolutions against Israel? Is it true or not that the US vetoes them?

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Posted by: Merkava

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Originally posted by Truthful
I agree, Merkava might kill me if she met me face to face. Tee hee hee. Keep a lid on your anger Merkava, I am only laying bare your deceit. Anyhow, is it true or not that the UN tries to pass resolutions against Israel? Is it true or not that the US vetoes them?


Yes! The UN passes Biased resolutions, but which sector of the UN does this? The 22 Arab-nations that comprise the UN Of course!

See truthful - this is where you fail - you lack detail - and this conlfict is all about detail!


Yes! The US veto's those Biased Resolutions because A) the US is Israel's Ally and B) Those Resolutions would cause Harm to Israel's Defense and Security.
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Posted by: Merkava

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Originally posted by Barbed wire
One says: you're doing unjustly the other: we've taken the land by sword (Vae victis) and try to take it away from us.

Religion is opium for the people.


It looks as if we have reached an understanding
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