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Posted by: Marc Flemming

Famed US documentary maker Michael Moore used his win of an Oscar to launch a violent attack on US President George W. Bush and war in Iraq amid loud boos from the audience.

"We live in fictitious times," he said when picking up the award for best documentary for his anti-gun film "Bowling for Columbine."

"We live in a time with fictitious election results that elect fictitious presidents. We live in a time when we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons.

"We are against this war Mr Bush. Shame on you. Shame on you!," he said to loud boos from an audience of 3,500 including most of Hollywood's top stars.

When he went backstage at Hollywood's Kodak Theatre to face reporters, Moore was unapologetic for his outburst.

"I'm an American, and you don't leave your citizenship when you enter the doors of the Kodak Theater. What's great about this country is that you can speak your mind," he said.

He said that, far from being appalled, many people in the audience stood up to applaud him.

"I say tonight I put America in a good light," he said praising the decision to push ahead with the Oscars despite the war raging in the Middle East.

"I showed how vital it is to have free speech in our country and all Americans have the right to stand up for what they believe in," he said.

Source: AP

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Posted by: sunshine

I think that Michael Moore is a disgusting American. He may not agree with our president and our government, but all I can say is: VOTE, you bastard!!! You and all of your entertainment buddies who are so adament about protesting this war need to take some initiative and use some of the overabundance of money that you make to change the things that you disagree so whole-heartedly with. All of these movie stars that are making these slanderous statements against America and our government are sitting pretty in their Mansions in the Hollywood Hills, and, meanwhile, there are people out there trying to promote peace by preventing any more terrible events like September 11th. I think that those who are against this war need to look at the LONG TERM goals we, as a country, are trying to achieve -- PEACE! Think about it...

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Posted by: Somebody Cares

atta girl sunshine!

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Posted by: Dreamzwalker

In IRAQ - Michael Moore would be dead.

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Posted by: MikeXXL

People shouldn't take Hollywood celebrities opinions seriously, they are just as misinformed as the general public. Half of them went through drug rehab at some point or another.

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Posted by: Grimminick

Can I just point out that Michael Moore is not a Hollywood celebrity - he is a documentary maker and an intelligent, articulate man to boot. His docu-film "Bowling for Columbine" is the first real money he's made although he's made a success as a troubleshooter exposing corruption and injustice in American society.
The point he makes about freedom of speech puts you other Americans to shame. You all brag about it saying how wonderful your country is but the moment someone voices an opinion that disagrees with your own your suddenly overwhelmed with vitriol and indignance. Freedom of speech means the freedom to s[eak all views without harrassment - it's a fundamental right which somehow apperas to be wasted on the zealous, nationalistic Americans.

No sunshine, Michael Moore is not a disgusting man, he is a very principled man who put his reputation on the line everytime he seeks to uncover some injustice in a counntry that is insanely protective of its name. It is people like Michael Moore who are respected in the world (you know that other place that ISN'T America) not the screaming sheep that you represent.

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Posted by: Grimminick

By the way MikeXXL, Michael Moore hasn't been to rehab (not that that has got anything to do with it) - he's actually teetotal.

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Posted by: Somebody Cares

While you are entitled to your opinion as well Grim, please educate yourself on the Vietnam war and what our great soldiers went through when they were over there fighting as well as how they were treated when they got home. We will not stand for a repeat performance...get a grip please.

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Posted by: Grimminick

Somebody Cares,
I made no mention about the treatment of troops (neither did Michael Moore). I despise your government and I despise my British government for sending them to a war for what Mr Moore termed "fictious reasons." I hope the American troops and the British troops return with the minimum of casualties and I hope they return soon.

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Posted by: Dreamzwalker

I hope they return soon as well, but what michael moore said - some of the troops saw. they really do not need to see this and i saw more people ''boo'' then moore admits.
people stood when he won, and then clapping at first to his speech. Once the booing began, much of the clapping ceased and many of the well-known actors did not look happy about what moore said.

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Posted by: Somebody Cares

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/en...rds/5477985.htm

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Posted by: Grimminick

Moore didn't do it to make people feel happy. He exercised his democratic right to free speech in a country that supposedly expouses the right to speak freely.

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Posted by: Somebody Cares

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Posted by: Somebody Cares

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Posted by: chelktty

It's good that Michael Moore took advantage of his freedom of speech. Had he been an Iraqi citizen publicly denouncing and antagonizing his country's leader, he would have been imprisoned, tortured and executed.
While a portion of the world's population still believes that this war is only motivated by oil, many refuse to accept the fact that Saddam and his regime are no better than Hitler and his regime. Saddam may not have killed over 55 million people and invaded several countries, but he has killed over a million of his own people and invaded neighboring Kuwait. He shows the determination and lust for power, weapons, intimidation and destruction. I can't imagine how Mr. Moore can believe these facts are ficticious. God Bless the American, British and Australian Troops!

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Posted by: donnaduh

how can people be proud of their "freedom of speech" and then put down someone who is exercising that right....... lets hope that our children still have that right in their future

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Posted by: leon0911

yeah...
how come his book is on the list of best selling books on both coasts of the us for nearly a year!!!!!!?????
that was already when bush wasnt even elected!

ppl must be at least interrested in what he has to say and i agree in almost everything he says. sometimes he is a bit radical, but hey, that's something some of the republicans shure are!

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Posted by: Really Bad Eggs

I think it's amazing that George Bush has such power over the people of America. When it gets to the point where anything spoken against him can be called 'unpatriotic' and everyone else will dislike that person, you know the idea of 'free speech' is declining. Where are these weapons of mass destruction he keeps telling us about, huh? No one really believes all that crap, do they?

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Posted by: Hillside Loafer

Michael Moore is great, he speaks about what few americans do, cause what's not conceddered good by the goverment, the rest of the people are not allowed to talk to..

Americans liv in constant fear, fear of terrorist, fear of each others and fear for what is different...

And michael moore is appearantly different, and therefore the americans are afraid of him...

p.s. För övrigt suger USA kuk, och det grovt

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Posted by: fuscia

quote:
Hillside Loafer said this in post #19 :
Michael Moore is great, he speaks about what few americans do, cause what's not conceddered good by the goverment, the rest of the people are not allowed to talk to..

Americans liv in constant fear, fear of terrorist, fear of each others and fear for what is different...

And michael moore is appearantly different, and therefore the americans are afraid of him...

p.s. För övrigt suger USA kuk, och det grovt


I don't think we are afraid of Michael Moore. People may or may not agree with the war, but the outcry against him was because he was viewed as being unloyal to the troops. The feeling is that moment we went to war, we all should support the troops. His comment should have been said before, not after.

As for us living in fear. We do fear terrorist, but not each other. Most Americans believe that we live in the best country on the planet because we have the right to free speech. If you look at the polls, not everyone likes the president, but he is our commander, so we support him.
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Posted by: starsmom

Criticize America if you like, but how many other countries have people risking their lives & banging down the doors to get in & have a better life? Gee, I really can't name one other country that has this problem to the extent we do. Perhaps Michael Moore can practice the spectacular free speech rights he has here in Iran. Perhaps he would not last 5 minutes there.
And if we do not tolerate dissension in the ranks, than why is Mr Moore still walking, talking & publishing & producing films? Think before you lash out guys.

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Posted by: leon0911

if the right of free speech isn't one of the civil liberties in Iran, does that mean that we should be happy because we have it and shut up? Support the US troops is one thing, supporting the war in iraq for the original stated reasons is another.

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Posted by: fuscia

Michael's comments were badly timed. I think people did not want to see him bring the troops down. Yes, he has a right to free speech, but there is a time and a place.

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Posted by: mystic

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fuscia said this in post #23 :
Michael's comments were badly timed. I think people did not want to see him bring the troops down. Yes, he has a right to free speech, but there is a time and a place.


Fuscia....I was about to say the same thing...

Timing is everything...and in this case it was no good!

Remember people....this is watched by many people, and many of these people have sons and daughters, moms and dads, friends and loved ones, brothers and sisters fighting in this war...

This was a time to entertain and get people's minds off it if only for a few hours...

It was uncalled for at the Oscars.....save this kind of stuff for another stage...not this one.
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Posted by: Curley Joe

quote:
starsmom said this in post #21 :
Criticize America if you like, but how many other countries have people risking their lives & banging down the doors to get in & have a better life? Gee, I really can't name one other country that has this problem to the extent we do. Perhaps Michael Moore can practice the spectacular free speech rights he has here in Iran. Perhaps he would not last 5 minutes there.
And if we do not tolerate dissension in the ranks, than why is Mr Moore still walking, talking & publishing & producing films? Think before you lash out guys.


Yes, timing is important. But anytime anyone has a window of opportunity to boo imbeciles like Michael Moore is a good time.
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Posted by: Neodammerung

Micheal Moore did not bring the troops down, Fuscia. He did entirely the opposite. He told George W. Bush the Deserter what a great deal of the American public are feeling at the moment. If you don't believe me, check out this site. He is, and always has been, fully supportive of the American, British and Australian troops. He just does not believe that their governments are doing them justice. By the way, whoever said to congratulate the Australian troops should really stick to congratulating their own country.

The Australian troops were committed to war against 90% of the Australian public's wishes. John Howard, Prime Minister, has abused the power given to him and violated the very notion of a democracy.

People - this is a very good site. I advise you to read some of the letters written to Michael Moore, and then tell me that you still believe Michael Moore does not support the troops.

Michael Moore

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Posted by: mystic

quote:
Neodammerung said this in post #26 :
Micheal Moore did not bring the troops down, Fuscia. He did entirely the opposite. He told George W. Bush the Deserter what a great deal of the American public are feeling at the moment. If you don't believe me, check out this site. He is, and always has been, fully supportive of the American, British and Australian troops. He just does not believe that their governments are doing them justice. By the way, whoever said to congratulate the Australian troops should really stick to congratulating their own country.

The Australian troops were committed to war against 90% of the Australian public's wishes. John Howard, Prime Minister, has abused the power given to him and violated the very notion of a democracy.

People - this is a very good site. I advise you to read some of the letters written to Michael Moore, and then tell me that you still believe Michael Moore does not support the troops.

Michael Moore


Its not a matter of him not supporting or supporting the troops Neo....it was a matter of the fact that the Oscars wasnt a time for him to make a comment like that....

You say that the majority of Americans feel the way Moore did/does...however are you sure you are in a place to say that you know how all Americans feel?

Not saying you are right or wrong...just saying that I dont feel you know how we as a whole really feel.

I have nothing personal against Moore...although I dont support his views in this case...I have been on that web site and read many things about him, and I have read the opposite side too...

But Im straying from my point and what I think overall about him doesnt matter here...

Moore has every right to say how he feels....but there is a time and place for everything, as fuscia said, and he picked both the wrong time and place....we, as Americans, do not want to turn on the Oscars and have to listen to Moore's "speeches" we also didnt care to hear it from Sarandon and Robbins...but I still Like both of them as actors.

Timing is everything...

If you think you know how Americans feel...why did he get boo'd?

Even people who agreed with him thought it was the wrong place for him to do what he did....and thats the bottom line. IMO
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Posted by: fuscia

Well put Mystic, I agree.

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Posted by: Neodammerung

I did not say that I knew how all of Americans feel. I merely pointed out that an increasingly large proportion of American citizens do not support Bush's war in Iraq. Take 'Stupid White Men'. It was on the bestsellers list for over 12 months. Dude Where's My Country has sold millions of copies worldwide. And CNN edited the broadcasted footage from the original Oscar's presentation to increase the proportion of boos to applause.

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Posted by: mystic

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Neodammerung said this in post #29 :
I did not say that I knew how all of Americans feel. I merely pointed out that an increasingly large proportion of American citizens do not support Bush's war in Iraq. Take 'Stupid White Men'. It was on the bestsellers list for over 12 months. Dude Where's My Country has sold millions of copies worldwide. And CNN edited the broadcasted footage from the original Oscar's presentation to increase the proportion of boos to applause.



Im curious as to where you are getting those numbers from......as of December 2003 Bush's rating are still higher...showing that 60 percent felt it was worth going to war. Bush leads the democratic party by a pretty big percent, 57 percent thought that the capture of Saddam was worth the effort and Bush's approval rating jumped from 52 to 58 percent, whereas his negative rating fell by 13 percent.

Reported in March of last year ....President Bush's overall job approval holds steady at 69%. Bush's overall job approval ratings have remained in the 70% range since the war in Iraq began in late March.

The latest Gallup polling finds little change in the public's opinion about how Bush is handling foreign affairs. Roughly two-thirds of Americans currently say they approve of Bush's handling of foreign affairs, while 3 in 10 disapprove.

Whether or not CNN did that....it doesnt justify the fact that many people didnt want to hear that......the majority of people in the U.S. didnt appreciate it....people turn on things like this for entertainment, not for political speeches...many people watching have family fighting in Iraq or know someone who does have family out there...and to hear that turned their stomachs...as it did mine.

I still think you are misunderstanding the point...which is there is a time and place for things...and entertainment value time isnt the time for political outbursts....

I found a quote from someone who I think says it very well...and probably puts it much better than I could...

I think if I was at the event in question I would have booed Mr.Moore, not as protest to his opinion, but because it was rude for him to use the event to espouse his political opinion. Celebrities like Moore, Sinead O'Connor, Genine Gerofalo, need to understand the general public doesn't care about there political opinions. We pay money because they act good, or sing good, or are funny.
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Posted by: Inner City Blues

We've certainly come a long way. I believe it was right for Moore to make the statement he did. Especially looking at the state of Iraq, which many people opposed to this war knew would be the result, there is no place for anyone opposed to the war to get any sort of public platform.

Everyone is saying, it was the wrong time, but I think it was especially important. Support for troops and support for a war do not go hand in hand. Making that statement is just distorting the facts. Would you say that someone opposed to the war that wants their son or daughter home is not supporting the troops.

I always see the thread of ignorance once someone makes a statement that someone should go live in some country where they have no rights to speak their mind whenever they are criticizing the government they support. It's called freedom of speech people, calling you idiots would be harsh, but I feel my hand is forced because I don't think these people even understand their freedoms and what it means to be able to express.

It's like the 1968 Olympics when the Olympic medalists raised their hands with the Black Power fist. How could they go on the world stage and not highlight the ugliness of racism in America? It's not as if they would ever be given the opportunity to do it anywhere else especially since there was such a virulence in racism at the time.

So I say again, I applaud Michael Moore and the boos that people talk about, regardless of how many, it was a small number, just like the people clapping, most people were silent, and that doesn't suggest support or disfavor.

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Posted by: Dreamzwalker

XD - did you see michael moore this year? lmao - he was like "YOU STOP THIS WAR HOBBITS! THIS IS A FICTITIOUS WAR!" squish I had not laughed hard in a long time, but that really made my year.

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Posted by: Willybot001

Grimminick

' I despise my British government for sending them to a war for what Mr Moore termed "fictious reasons." I hope the American troops and the British troops return with the minimum of casualties and I hope they return soon'

Im proud to be British and im proud that Britian decide to help deal with Iraq. Saddam was an evil man his regimes proves this.

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