| Posted by: mdmselaroux | | I must confess that I haven't been watching FOX News latley and I just wanted to know if the boycott of the French is over. Nobody has informed me if it has or hasn't ended and I don't think that is very fair to me. I need someone to tell me so I can start to plan my European Tour (a la the Gilded Age). Much Love!! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Kookaburra | | Too funny! I didn't even know we were boycotting the French. No one informed my city of this.
Politics! Ha! | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Benyamin | | started by Bill O'REilly on Fox news against the country of France
because the President of France disagreed with how President Bush handled Iraq. Which I believe is childish. 
to punish a whole country because their UN Ambassador
voted against you is just plane silly.
plus I do believe that others voted against us going into iraq
but I have not heard anybody suggest boycotting them | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Kookaburra | | Well there you have it! I only get 4 TV channels, and I don't watch enough TV to learn about what's going on with the French. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: lodgebo | | Something I just wanted to add. It seems that it is wrong for France to veto a war to protect her interests but it is OK for the US to agree on something important like Kyoto and then change their minds and veto it because that suits US interests.
The problem with US foreign policy is that they forgot it affects foreigners | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: I use logic | | France has started and lead a lot of opposition to the US. France also had received some nice bribes of oil from Saddam to opoose the war. France also has been behind some of the 'US 9/11' conspiracy theories. I see nothing wrong with boycotting France after it seems to have been very anti US lately. Boycotting IS legal, isn't it? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: mdmselaroux | |
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I use logic said this in post #7 :
France has started and lead a lot of opposition to the US. France also had received some nice bribes of oil from Saddam to opoose the war. France also has been behind some of the 'US 9/11' conspiracy theories. I see nothing wrong with boycotting France after it seems to have been very anti US lately. Boycotting IS legal, isn't it? |
Oh I didn't know they took bribes from Saddam, did the little Bush genie on your shoulder tell you that?
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| Posted by: I use logic | |
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mdmselaroux said this in post #8 :
Oh I didn't know they took bribes from Saddam, did the little Bush genie on your shoulder tell you that? |
Why not open your biased mind. Heres one :
Baghdad, January 28: Iraq plans to investigate allegations that dozens of officials and businessmen worldwide illegally received oil in exchange for supporting former leader Saddam Hussein, officials said on Tuesday.
Their statements came after al-Mada, an independent Baghdad newspaper, published a list it said was based on oil ministry documents showing 46 individuals, companies and organisations from inside and outside Iraq who were given millions of barrels of oil.
"I think the list is true. I will demand an investigation. These people must be prosecuted," Naseer Chaderji, a Governing Council member, told Reuters.
The list includes members of Arab ruling families, religious organisations, politicians and political parties from Egypt, Jordan, Syria, the United Arab Emirates, Turkey, Sudan, China, Austria, France and other countries.
Oh, and thats from the 'Arab business Daily'
http://archive.wn.com/2004/01/28/14...bbusinessdaily/
Heres more:
Iraqi Oil Bribes - http://www.synthstuff.com/mt/archiv...oil_bribes.html
Still more for ya :
The latest revelation to emerge from Iraq is provided by the Baghdad-based newspaper Al-Mada, which recently published the names of more than 200 individuals and organizations in more than 40 countries who are alleged to have received oil payoffs from Saddam Hussein in exchange for their support. It could represent just the tip of the iceberg, in terms of showing how Saddam used his petroleum and cash to purchase friends and favors.
The list of recipients spans four continents and contains the names of prominent politicians as well as political parties, journalists and clergy from such countries as France , Libya, Syria, Indonesia and Russia, among others. Among the disclosures in Al-Mada: http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=31115
More yet:
Iraqi council demands list of alleged bribes
Leaders eager to examine newspaper claims that Saddam gave oil contracts to sympathetic foreigners ......
...Forty-six individuals and companies from Russia are named, as are 14 from Lebanon, 14 from Syria and 11 from France .
I'm sure if you did some searching you could keep finding more. I would but I'm pretty bored with proving my point now.
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| Posted by: I use logic | |
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lodgebo said this in post #9 :
That 9/11 and France's involvement that has to be joke right? |
I didn't say France was involved with 'causing' 9/11. I'm saying there are conspiracy theories flying around that 'the US/Bush planned them as an excuse to start a war', that is being floated around by France.
France tackles school anti-Semitism
Attacks on synagogues have increased since 11 September 2001France is adopting new measures to stamp out anti-Semitism in schools, described as a "true danger" by the education minister.
Luc Ferry said anti-Semitic insults of a new kind were becoming a feature of everyday life.
Teachers and school officials would no longer be allowed to turn their heads when Jewish students were being harassed, he said.
Some 455 racist and anti-Semitic incidents were recorded in French state schools in the autumn term alone of the current academic year.
There is a trivialisation of anti-Semitism which worries us, a new wave of anti-Semitism which is being tolerated by certain adults Luc Ferry Education Minister School officials say most of the incidents involve verbal insults and offensive graffiti.
Correspondents say attacks against Jews and synagogues have intensified in France since 11 September 2001.
And France's Jewish community - the largest in Europe - has accused the authorities of turning a blind eye to the rising anti-Semitism. This is slightly off-subject, but shows a rising problem with anti-Jewishism in France.
PARIS, France (CNN) -- Throughout the spring, and into this summer, a leading bestseller in France has not been some great work of French literature but a $17-dollar paperback called the "Horrifying Fraud."
The book casts doubt on the official version of the events of September 11, substituting an elaborate conspiracy concocted by America's military-industrial complex in order to increase U.S. military budgets.
It has sold more than 200,000 copies here -- a huge success in French terms --attracting interest from readers like Eduard Chabanon and Naoufal Lahlou who are sceptical about much of what they are learn from the news.
Lahlou said: "There is always doubt. I haven't seen any proof that shows that man walked on the moon." Heres what I mean.
A French lawyer who made his reputation defending some of the world's most notorious figures says he will take on Saddam Hussein as his latest client.
In France the toxic mix of Islamofascism from the Arab immigrants and the anti-Americanism of the French governments is leading to a dangerous environment if you happen to be Jew in France, as the Washington Times reports on the latest attacks of Muslim youths on Jews there. Of course, the fact that these Jews were protesting the war too made no difference to the Arabs. As the Washington Times writes: http://qsi.cc/blog/archives/000315.html
Saddam-Chirac
A 30-year liaison.
France has desperately and publicly sought a peaceful solution of the Iraqi crisis with a sole strategic goal: strong influence if not control of the world's future leading oil reserves. - http://www.nationalreview.com/comme...mson041003b.asp
Urge France to Stop Anti-Semitism
Target: Jacques Chirac President The Government of France
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/take...1082303787&sign[partner_userID]=270915261&sign[memberID]=270915261&sign[partnerID]=1
FRANCE, 2002
• Synagogues and Schools Fire-Bombed
• Jews attacked on the streets
• Torah scrolls desecrated
• Mme Cecile Muselet, owner of the French hotel "Le Bastide
de la Pave" in Provence refuses to allow Israeli couple to stay
at the hotel because of their ethnic origin
• Chants of "Vive Bin Laden" and "Death to Jews" heard on the streets
• French Ambassador Daniel Bernard and close confidant of
President Chiraq curses Jews
• French Government is a puppet of Arab leaders
Just some articles I found
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| Posted by: lodgebo | | I have heard nearly every conspiracy theory surronding 9/11 but the only thing I have not heard is that the French are responsible for starting/floating these theories. As for this book so what it was a bestseller but you have failed to mention the authors are they French, American, British? plus there is more that 1 book about 9/11 and all these theroies it is just like the moon thing.
As for the anti semiatic issue it sounds bad but I am not going to enter in to a debate about because I have not been to France recently plus I find it funny that this has only become such a big issue in America since France did not go into Iraq.
As for Sadams lawyer there is another thread somewhere that deals with this, at the moment this French lawyer is spouting hot air, Sadaams lawyer is one George Di Stefano who has clients like Sadaam, Arkan, Harold Shipman (deceased) and Milosevic, although it reamions to be seen who will ulitmatly represent Sadamm this guy may be the front runner as he is a friend as well as an associate | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: I use logic | | Well, I'm not trying to put a bad image on France, I don't hate France. I'm upset that France and the US aren't getting along so well, cause I think we should be. I see a resentment of sorts from France, but what I'm curious about and concerned now, is how deep does it go? IS there problems now within the governement that no one is seeing? If there is a big problem (and I hope theres not) then obviously people need to know about it and try to fix things. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: USA1 | | The French have always loved our money however, they don't love us.
The French government agenda is to remove America as the global super power and replace it with an EU united. Frankley, I don't think you will get all Europeans to agree on anything so it is unlikely Jaques will succeed before he is replaced or dies of old age. For the present, he will continue to be a thorn in our paw. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Ireland | | The majority of french people opposed the war that the US started in Iraq. Their government, for whatever reason, did not support the US. The result: the democratic will of the people upheld.
The majority of British people opposed the war that the US started in Iraq. Their government sent their soldiers to war disregarding the wishes of its people. This is not democratic.
Your president speaks of Democracy in vague terms, just as he does Freedom.
Pakistan would if capable of democratically electing their leader, which they are presently unable to do, you would find no support from their government.
When Spain got the chance to democratically reverse the policies put in place vis a vis Iraq they did so.
How different the political landscape would look if ACTUAL democracy took place in regards US foreign policy and Iraq. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Whidden | |
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Ireland said this in post #16 :
How different the political landscape would look if ACTUAL democracy took place in regards US foreign policy and Iraq. |
I thought Tony Blair won a third term. Does not seem to gell with what you just said.
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| Posted by: lodgebo | | Whiden Tony B.liar won a third term despite the war not because the British people supported the war.
The reason B.liar won was twofold 1. there was at the time no real opposition and 2. the economic policies of his chancellor ( next PM maybe) were succesful.
Also the Liberial democrats who fought an anti war campaign had thier most succesful election ever.
The truth is that many many people in the UK strongly opposed and still do oppose this war. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Whidden | | My only point was Ireland was saying that
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| "The majority of British people opposed the war that the US started in Iraq. Their government sent their soldiers to war disregarding the wishes of its people. This is not democratic." |
But, they still kept him in office. Sure, maybe they felt smoked by the democratic process, that their wishes on the war were not acknowledged, but it doesn't seem like it was important enough to them to vote him out. Like you said, the economy was good, or the opposition wasn't up to speed, so they voted on those issues instead. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: lodgebo | | But Labour also lost a lot of votes and almost all lost votes were believed to be anti war votes, in certain areas Labour lost seats to the liberials who were as I said fighting on an anti war campiagn.
In an area of London - Bethnal green Geroge Galloway ( the guy that ran circles round your Senators) won a seat that Labour had never lost and he won that on an anti war message, of course he than mucked it all up by dressing as a giant cat on national TV. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: lodgebo | | What happend was that Galloway went on Celebrity Big Brother and one of the tasks was that he had to be a cat for an evening or day and he had to eat cat treats out of another contestants hand and purr and be scratched behind the ear's. It was one of these moments when you actually feel embaressed for the person.
Must say that Dukakis looks toatlly out of place still looks better than Galloway though. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: h@ts | |
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Whidden said this in post #19 :
My only point was Ireland was saying that
But, they still kept him in office. Sure, maybe they felt smoked by the democratic process, that their wishes on the war were not acknowledged, but it doesn't seem like it was important enough to them to vote him out. Like you said, the economy was good, or the opposition wasn't up to speed, so they voted on those issues instead. |
The only real opposition to Labour were the Conservatives and they supported the war.
And the election was the:
- second lowest voter turnout since 1918.
- lowest ever vote share for a majority government
- lowest ever vote for Conservative and Labour combined
- biggest ever drop in votes for a Labour government.
- most LibDem MPs since 1923
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| Posted by: malcolm xx | |
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mdmselaroux said this in post #1 :
I must confess that I haven't been watching FOX News latley and I just wanted to know if the boycott of the French is over. Nobody has informed me if it has or hasn't ended and I don't think that is very fair to me. I need someone to tell me so I can start to plan my European Tour (a la the Gilded Age). Much Love!! |
We are boycotting Fox to get that trash off the air before they start next war
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A giant cat. The worst we ever had was Dukakis, a presidental candidate who got into a tank, and put on the Tank hat, and lost the election because he looked like a total doof.