Kobe...Is This really ADULTREY

Kobe Bryant Forum

hello everyone im new to the board ,1st time posting

According to Entertainment tonight and Access Hollywood 2 months ago in May Kobe told Vanessa he wanted a divorce,because he suspected she was cheating on him with her ex boyfriend while kobe was on the road with the Lakers. Vanessa's ex boyfriend reportedly drove 1 of kobe's vehicles and wrecked it,this is when kobe thought she was cheating. Once he told her about he wanted the divorce in May,this is when Vanessa had that Anxiety attack ,and had to be rushed to the hospital.

Question?....be honest now,if u were in a similair situation,and lets say your mindset was set on DIVORCE,wouldnt most ppl now have there OPTIONS OPEN,i know i would. I know on paper u are still legally married,but what if u are kinda separated,ur mindset is Divorce,most ppl would start hanging out with the fellows,if u are male,hanging out with your girlfriends if u are female,mingling,with other ppl.

The june30th incident brought them back closer,but before the n kobe wanted a divorce. PPl wonder why she stuck by him,well maybe its because she cheated 1st.

and because he's a multimillionaire basketball player and all she is is cute. that's probably another reason she's sticking with him.

I AGREE KOBE WANTED OUT OF THE MARRIAGE WAY BEFORE THIS INCIDENT IN COLORADO. EVERYONE IS SAYING "POOR VANESSA'' BUT IF THIS STORY IS TRUE SHE CHEATED ON KOBE, ALSO

Both of them should have more self-respect and just wait until they are divorced before they go hoe'ing around with other people. Is Kobe THAT DAMN pu**y-whipped that he can't control himself? If that's the case then he definately earned the situation he is in now.

The only time when someone starts thinking "you cheated first" is when they've been acting like a skank themselves.

Now we know why she stayed with him after the story broke. Kobe could probably do anything he wants. The wife just wants the $$$. Period.

-HECK!

what chickenheads are you referring to???

Listen jerk, I don't have to defend myself against ******** like you. I merely asked a question. chickenhead

Reguardless of who cheated they are both wrong. I believe when you become an athletes wife you know alot of times, depending on the man, what you ask for. You know that when you say I do to money and fame that you are going to take the risk of sharing your man/woman. Not saying that that is right but things happen. Kobe and Vanessa are both young and they both have a lot of maturing to do. Money won't buy you love. This will either make them or break them.

I agree that's what golddiggers have to expect. It goes along with the territory, Vanessa.

one and only I fully agree, but my husband thinks that Vanessa truly loves kobe, but like I told him you thought I truly loved you, so why do you think that a woman that young had nothing to lose but everything to gain pass up a chance like that?

Kimcorkar, I agree. Vanessa was too young to know anything about love. I heard from a reliable source that the only reason Kobe married Vanessa is because her mom found out they were having sex when she was underage. She threatened to have him arrested for statutory rape, if he didn't agree to marry Vanessa, so you see there was NO love there.

One and only, I agree I just think that they both need to wise up. Kobe needs to just pray his way through this now. The mistakes have been made. Just don't make the same mistake twice. He should have left Vanessa alone a long time ago. No woman/man is worth not talking to your family/friends etc. The only thing that I honestly hate is that they labeled her as a golddigger. But I have to say I have to, but Vanessa has to carry her self with more class and show the public that , that is not all she is. I'm sure she says she doesn't have to prove herself to anyone, but she is in the spotlight and until I see different that will always be my perception about her. she needs to grow up. Like they said in the movie players club. make the money don't let the money make you!!!!

Nothing Kobe's wife has done justifies his actions in that hotel room. Rape? I don't think so, but truly he didn't conduct himself in a responsible manner.

As we see now, that young woman has other men's seaman in her body. Kobe just met this young girl that night and went in bare? All on top of other men's fluids, but how could Kobe know this?

That's irresponsible on his part alone, not to mention his nasty a$$. I just wonder how many other times Kobe has acted irresponsibly during and after his marriage. You know, divorce isn't always about who was caught cheating first, but it's often about who was caught first cheating.

Kimcorkar, let's just hope Kobe has learned a very valuable lesson. It will probably prove to be a very costly lesson. I am so disappointed that Kobe chose not to use a condom. I've lost a little respect for him for that one, I'll have to agree with everyone that says "That was just plain nasty". He must feel real stupid now that's he's learned about all the other men's semen and pubic hair. She obviously was not a clean person, Little Ms. Eagle, CO. Kobe must now be concerned about HIV, and God knows what else this girl has.

I agree,what you are saying, but we must remember that Kobe is a man and unless he is Jesus Christ he is going to make mistakes. That was very nasty what he did. He should of had more respect for his wife. But now I think that we need to allow him , Vanessa and his daughter to try to live somewhat of a normal life. I know that that is going to be hard but, what is done is done. I think so many people are so into this is because we thought he was so innocent and a lot of time we the public get just a disappointed. It really makes me mad that this one little white woman brought all of this attention to this man, but it also makes me mad that a black man allowed it.

I agree Kimcorkar, he put himself in a very bad situation, but I must say knowing what I know from a very reliable source concerning the marriage of Kobe and Vanessa, I really don't have empathy for her, this is the second bad situation Kobe has gotten into where he thought with the head down below and not the one on top.

One and only you know this for a fact?

Yes, I know for a fact. Just like I know one of Vanessa"s ex-boyfriends wrecked one of Kobe's Mercedes', a black one while he was out of town.

Kobe has a lot of self restraint. if that was A.I. or somebody, that got his car wrecked... the dude who wrecked it would be in a world of hurt.

Well, I guess he figures he has lots more, and can replace it with no problem.

After reading your response I am also positive that my options about Kobe's wife are true. I honestly believe she was messing with someone else and I beleive that someone else helped Vanessa set Kobe up to go to jail. There was a conversion held between Vanessa and Katie in a night club where Kobe was at when he was in Denver(Club Purple). katie told Vanessa Kobe was running around in the night club with somebody else and from there on there was talks of RAPE. She was obviously with her boyfriend when the call was made to Vanessa because some man got on the phone and was talking to Katie. This was in January/Febuary if this year. She did not want Kobe to divorce her because she wouldn't barely get nothing, but if she he went to jail her and her ex could spend all his money before he even got out. As you say they have gotten closer but I think Kobe is so lost that he can't see the truth if it kicked his ass. I he plans on continuing to praise his wife he is the one that looks like a fool because she is the reason why he is in this mess. And you can bet your ass if he is convicted her and her ex will have a ball.

After reading your response I am also positive that my options about Kobe's wife are true. I honestly believe she was messing with someone else and I beleive that someone else helped Vanessa set Kobe up to go to jail. There was a conversion held between Vanessa and Katie in a night club where Kobe was at when he was in Denver(Club Purple). katie told Vanessa Kobe was running around in the night club with somebody else and from there on there was talks of RAPE. She was obviously with her boyfriend when the call was made to Vanessa because some man got on the phone and was talking to Katie. This was in January/Febuary if this year. She did not want Kobe to divorce her because she wouldn't barely get nothing, but if she he went to jail her and her ex could spend all his money before he even got out. As you say they have gotten closer but I think Kobe is so lost that he can't see the truth if it kicked his ass. I he plans on continuing to praise his wife he is the one that looks like a fool because she is the reason why he is in this mess. And you can bet your ass if he is convicted her and her ex will have a ball.

I never really thought about it this way, this could be something to think about. Interesting concept. I hope Kobe sees through Vanessa.

So true I agree. I just think that so much is happening in the world today, the only thing that people what to see is bad things happen. The way I feel about it is that people need to understand the reality of the world, and that is that a lot of white people dont want to see black men with anything. Now let me explain. All whites are not bad. Some of my best friends are white, BUT the problem is that racism still exist it is just hidden. It is harder a lot of times for black men to obtain the things that white men do. when our black men obtain things they must live almost a perfect life to keep them. they are watched and every part of their lives are under a microscope. When they mess up society puts them in a situation where it is over dramatized. White men have been rapping our women for decades and nothing is never said. That is the reality of it. Look at michael jackson. This is a black man that has everything and look how they are doing him. They have been after michael for a long time, and yes he is a little strange but my Lord whats why cant he have money and live in peace. But nothing is never said about white america when they do things . Their actions are always justifiable!!!! Thats the reality of it. So no matter how much we want to say color has nothing to do with it, it has evrything to do with it!!!!

What if the accuser was black and the suspect white? Then what? Let me guess, the man raped her because she was black?

Everybody knows there are two different laws, one for whites and white for blacks. Most people on these posts keep saying what does color have to do with it, and they know darn well what color has to do with it. Everything a black person does (or is set up to have done) is fabricated to no end. Keep it real and stop hollering "what does color have to do with it?"

maybe to you it does. you have your own racial problems that you need to clear up. dont assume things. you dont know me. you dont know anybody on these boards.

Acutually, slenderspender I don't want to know you. My opinion is mine and yours is yours. I'm just keeping it real. I am not a racist, I just despise racism and all who partake of it. I was not directing anything to you personally, so why are you so offensive?? Could I possibly have struck a nerve?

uh oh, you got me!! ... you are basically saying that all white people treat blacks unfairly. arent you? you think that in a huge public case like this there will be any racism seen? helllll no there wont because theres people like you who will make damn sure of it. simma down. everyone has rights, raping a woman isnt one of them.

not all white people are racist... but enough of them are to make black people and, for that matter anybody who chooses to pay attention, realize that racism is alive and very well in america. Eagle county already got in trouble earlier this year because their police department was using racial profiling in traffic stops. Counties don't (to my knowledge, i have been wrong about things before) import police officers, usually they are a cross section of the town. It would seem to me that a large amount of racist cops in eagle county = a large amount of racist citizens in eagle county. I heard the Klan already made an appearance outside of the courthouse, klansmen, like police are rarely imported into counties. I wonder if anybody underneath the mask was a prospective juror, yeah, racism will play a part in the trial. In case it comes up later, no, i'm not a racist black guy, i'm posting this in between games of playstation with a white dude (who is terrible at smackdown ) anyways, that's my 3 cents.

slenderspender, you have already convicted Kobe, how do you know he raped that girl? Her panites tell a whole different story.

eh, actually i think racism does include the masses, maybe not rampant, cross burning racism, but deep seated negative attitudes towards other races. The kind that earns me "secret shoppers" following me around in wal-mart. Or people who normally speak english very properly saying "word dog, what it be like" when they talk to me, thinking that's my language. Or white ladies holding their purses tightly when all i'm trying to do is share the same escalator as them. These are all "phenomena" i have witnessed myself. I wouldn't count on any people like that to sit on a jury and give Kobe a fair trial. My other reason for believing that a huge part of the masses is racist goes back to the idea of a jury. If a jury is supposed to be a cross section of americans, then how did amadou diallo get SLAUGHTERED (41 shots from about 12 feet away eyewittnesses say) and 12 people after hearing eyewitness testimony find the cops not guilty. How about the black kids in cleveland 1 or 2 gets blown away each year and the cops get off... the jurors HAVE to be the weakest link there. Even if only one out of 6 people are racist what are the odds of rolling a 6 every time you pick a juror, 12 times in a row? Odds just don't work like that.

if its on paper, they still married, regardless its adultrey.


BUMP

The charges are felony "rape" and not "adultery."
Kobe pled "nolo contendre" to adultery, but NOT to "rape."

you can be taken to court for adultry?

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But NOT in Colorado or the State of California. VVV Just Click Below

well they need to change the law, thas like from the bible, its the new mellenium baby!

man u ever notice how bad those mugshots make people look, i bet they could even make mother tersa look bad, damn!

crazy azz white peeple i tell u, wen will u guys learn!

Yep, them cops don't let pple take pictures in nice clothes or with make-ups.
Sometimes, the suspect has already been "ruffed-up." Of course, the person has a bad stomach pain or lower part bruises but generally not in the face. Behind the head, in the back and broken legs....all the time.

About changing those old laws, ain't gonna happen in those backward states, W Va., Al., and Fld, the State that screwed up the chads at the last election.

one day

Yeah, "I have a dream...."
Not in our lifetime. LOL

whos the blk guy whos running for pres?

Who you asked, as BLK Pres? You mean Bush Leading Klutz? LOL
Nah, Rev. Al Sharpton ain't got a prayer. Congressperson Carol Mosley can't get campaign traction either. But what's that got to do with Kobe and adultery?

yea , yea thas him , the sharpton dude, if he wins hell change it

Big IF......big if........ but he does do good debates that rival the best of them.
Can you imagine Sharpton going head on one-on-one with Bush?
Ain't even a contest......hands down win for Sharpton.

hell yea! bling for the usa!!!!
mike tyson secaary of the defenseeeeeeee!
don king treasurer,( gonna challenge every country to 12 round fight,80 billion dollar purse each)
vice president,.... well me of course

Hahahahaha Tyson the SOD? Will make Kadafi scared for sure with the man-eater. LOL They all be coming begging for forgiveness or else Mike will tear off their ears. Like the Beatle's song goes..... Imagine the world.....living in peace.

im gonna eat yo kids foo, yea you heard me fooo, cuz im mike tyson!

There are two sides of Tyson. He's an animal in the ring and a different person most of the time outside. Ever hear him talk? Sometimes, one wonders whether it's the same public persona we seem to deride. Perhaps, his brains are scrambled.

hes very misunderstood, as a matter of fact, i know hes alot smarter than peeps think

If I say Tyson can be articulate and exercise good reasoning.
Many here might think I'm nuts.

You get the idea.....

I think his temper gets the best of him.
Hope he doesn't run out of medication. LOLO

he is tho, its all an act, for publicity, etc.. hes smart of nuff for that. he knows what the publc wants, even tho he s been on top of his game in i dunnoo 5 years or so, not the number 1 contender yet,
every wants to see him and roy jones, him and lewis, and so on

So what you you think about the fact that Vanesaa has somethng to do with Kobe being charged with rape. She paid Kate to say she was and to set him up so her and her ex-boyfriend can take his ends.

Man not only does she have Kobe whipped but she's also got America PUNKED!!! Boy, shows how a pretty face runs ****.

Seal3k, don't know where to start with Alex there.
Sorta stumped me with that curve ball. LOL

http://forums.webrats.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=688&stc=1&thumb=1Yoh Alex! How's your eye sight? You still got any more of that medication in the medicine cabinet?
Better get the refill. LOL

OK I dont get it KEN NJ. What is wrong with my eye sight? You dont agree that she IS a pretty woman. I don't take medications but you seem to not be in touch with woman. Let me quess you are one of those men who say "My girl will never cheat on me she is to sweet". Boy men!!! I know woman because I am one, I know how female friends and family members work - trust me- RULE ONE - never put anything pass a woman in love-NEVER!!!! RULE TWO - just because we love you does not mean we are IN LOVE with you, the person we are in love with will be the one who gets our complete dedication. Others will come second or last. She loves Kobe- thats all I am trying to say.

LOL ****, IM DYING HERE!!!!

You wanna really laugh? Take a look at this Kobe picture with Kate the accuser.

http://www.kobetimes.com/news_images/225_kobekate01.jpg

Just so that you know that picture was altered. They are not really in the picture togerther. What rape allegations the next day right, she was scared trus enough but not of Kobe alone, she was afriad of the whole situation she got herself in. It don't take 12 hours to decideif you should tell you were raped by a superstar but it would take that amount of time to follow through? Vanessa and her "helpers"had been planning this before January of 2003. What I am saying is that Kate was paid to get Kobe put in jail. She may of had seconds thoughts about it because she was scared to go up against him. She was late to work, which proves she was scared to do this in the first place. She tried to commit sucide 1 month before the incident-whcih shows another form of fear-regardkless what she told her counselers. Vanessa had an anxiety attack the same month. Kobe found out she had been cheating with her ex., now if you know you are un faithfull then why would it be such a shock to be caught. Surprising yes, deathly astonishing , NO! She knew damn well she would be in deep **** if he divorced her then. The only thing that would possibliby make her have an anixety attack(it would have to be pretty serious - come on).How was she gonna get anything being an adultress. What does this mean ?? They were obviously got in over there heads. When woman do this they tend to panic, which both of them coincidencely did shorthly before the incident occured. I'm sorry to be the barden of bad news, but Kobe is sleeping with the enemy and don't even know it. Poor sap!!

That was pretty heavy stuff there Alexa. I'm not too sure I would put too much stock into that Venessa set up with Kate, but a rumor that goes nowhere. But your story is better then that picture and you were able to quickly separate fact from fiction.

Nice job with the hilarious picture, as Mystic would say.... LOL
If you want me to accept your enemy story, let's see some concrete details, otherwise....it's just another "let's supposed." And that's neither good for either camp, distancing from truth.

Is" I HEARD THE CONVERSION, good enough for ya!!!" Nobody asked me nothing. What was the use in telling some people when they think you. "Oh no I dont think.... How mad does it make you when you tell someone something and they act like you are just trying to get something out of it versus maybe she is just clearing her conscience or just simply telling the truth. Vanessa did not set Kobe up with Kate, Kate made an attempt to lure Kobe. It was not very difficult because Vanessa was on strike. The questions you can ask is thiis, why was Kobe's reservation changed at the last minute and knowing that they were changed AT THE LAST MINUTE according to his travel agent, then how did Kate friend know that Kobe was coming to that hotel a MONTH in advance. She reported Kate knew a month in advance but his reservations were changed to thet hotel THAT DAY.

Doesnt matter if Vanessa cheated or not...Kobe is the one that has the pending prison sentence...in an earlier post someone wrote that Kobe's wife is sticking around for the money....DUH, of course she is...and any bleeding heart that thinks otherwise is living in a dream land...but to keep to the point of this thread, yes Kobe is guilty of adultery because he is married. I question the validity of the information about his wife Vanessa cheating though.....after all, when Kobe cheated...he bought a whopping $4 million ring for her....what did she get for him, when and if she cheated??

debating and comedy 2 diff things, and hes much better debater, to bad he aint white

In response to did you hear Vanessa and Kate. Let me start out it like this, I don't need all that type of haressment and or threats from people. I am a very laid back person that does not like a lot of drama. I sent a e-mail to Kobe' attorneys regarding this issue. the problem is no one can conceive this to possibly happend. I fell so sorry for naive people. But what ever route they want to take then so be it. I have nothing to gain but telling you what happend. If people's minds were so closed it would not be hard to except. But as I said, I did my duty by reporting it all they need to do is stop thinking "her **** don't stink". You have the remember she had no problem when her Mom black mailed Kobe and told him he better put a finger on her ring for sleeping with her under age daughter or else he would face staturory rape charges. If you have a problem with it then you do if you dont then you dont. Would she have asked the same thing of a poor man. She did not stand up for him then, she just dug in. The public is making her out to be the scorn angel torned apart by the big bad adultry beast. But if then see her for being just as average and hungry as any other gold digger you would not even ask for quotes.

Oh my God alexalexis, you are heaven sent!! Everything you've said is sooooo true, Vanessa's mom did blackmail Kobe into marrying Vanessa, that's why he was down at a DIVORCE attorney a few months BEFORE this thing happened in Colorado, the marriage never seemed to be based on love.

No it was not. See what Kobe is trying to do is he is trying to betray his life and his wife as the perfect couple that ran into a adultry problem, so that the public thinks this is just something that could have happend to the average couple. Bad idea, so now people see her as the innocent victum when she is actually the felon here that's why it is so hard for people to believe. but what choice does he have these woman are jacking him at both ends, the last thing he needs is another rape charge. Ever wonder if that is why is got the $4 million ring and Kate was offered the $5 million settlement. He just wants Kate to disappear but he needs his wife to shut the hell up.

O.K. - We are not saying Vanessa's Mom has anything to do with the current situation, I am saying that Kobe had been "made " to marry Vanessa. They would proably explain all the shopping on Rodeo Drive she had a lot of leway seeing that Kobe was messing with her under age daughter. The current situation has nothing to do with the in-laws. This is all her. I ask you again, has anyway ever hear whether there was a "S" scrathced on Kate's back. I am talking about before the incident occured. Whether from the centers she spoke with or any news updates. The evidence you need is so hard to come to. How can you get evidence from a conspiracy, when something is planned out to the letter. It was not a all of a sudden thing, but Kate did leave quite a bit of clues. First off , people see her underwear is just that of a loose chick. I see evidence right there. Look to the travel agent, evidence there. look to the woman who was trying to scale his wall in order to get a view of "him in his room". I see evidence there. I belive that the reason why she was so happy and bragging in that Canadian bar was not because she got laid by Kobe, but it was a celebration because she is going to be so rich after the pay off. I see evidence of a set up when you look at where is located him in the hotel, far from someone that could stop him if somethnig would of went down. I see evidence in Kobe Verizon flip phone. I see evidence with the Eagle County sheriffs/police department, but you never will. I see the entire ordeal in the hands of Mr. Hoyt. I also see Mr. Winters knowing there is more to the story then what came out of her mouth. I also see evidence of the men she had sex with in conjuction to Kobe. I see evidence in bank transactions and follow up phone converstions. I see the evidence in Vanessa's ex boyfriend. I see evidence in the move "Playas"( an outline so to speak)Do you know why you will never see any of these thing in conjuction to one another;because they would have to do a federal investigation with the allegation of conspiracy in order for you to find the evidence you are looking for and that is what is making these stuff stick and become extremly difficult to unravel. But you have to realize, this is what a set up is all about. We don't have to right type concept to look out for. It takes alot more then city and state investigations to find what Kobe needs. I just know they know that Kobe's attorney's plan to handle this on a local level and that is exactly what they are banking on. If this case gets in the proper hands, the right things will be accomplished. Trying to handle this case "as is", will mean one of two things;either the jury will believe he did not rape her, or either they will fall all of of this. Either way the real corporate gets away. So be it;I guess they will handle this the best way they know how, hopefully it is good enough. I just know they are walking into a land mine.

One more piece of evidence for you. If they found bruises on, then why didn't Mr. Winter see them after 12 hours and force obtained by Kobe. I don't see him as a light handed man. I will tell you why because the bruises were obtained during that 12 hour period and that is why Mr.Winters did not see them but the nurses did. They didn't bruise her up soon enough for Mr. Winters. I know it takes a while for bruises to appear, but on Casassian skin it should of been there after 12 hours. I have dark skin and it takes less the that time for a bruise to appear on me. What happend to hers? Also, in reference to the movie "Playas". I see a set up escape goat in the producer(another NBA player-Kobe's rival so to speak.) If all is told, all points go to the NBA player that did not like him not to the real person in charge. Which I also believe is not Vanessa, she just helped.

To all those that pity Vanessa, go right ahead. She needs no pity, spending all Kobe's money makes her feel just fine. As far as Lil Miss Innocent from Colorado, I can't wait for Kobe's attorneys to get her on that witness stand. Once all her lies are unraveled Kobe will be found innocent and you can take that to the bank!

That's the problen - everybody is to busy going to the bank!!!!HA.
I hope they make the right move.

man somebodies here just broke out the crazy bin

Everybody knows that he is innocent. They said that she had sex with 3 other guys before Kobe. So she is already a hoe, so now she is a crazy hoe. So forget Vanessa, she aint nobody. And Kobe's money really is keeping them together. So my HUSBAND KOBE IS INNOCENT!!!

Kate might be lying. She might be a ho. She might not show up at trial.

http://www.basket-ball.com/IMG/arton1518.jpg And you're too young to be Kobe's main squeeze. NOT guilty!

thas right, she doesnt have to be at those prelims right?
but she got testify in court, she skerrrd!

Of course she will show up to court to tesitify. She is even more scared of what will happend to her if she does not put Kobe in jail. Consequences Repercussions. Besides, where would she get the money to paid back to Vanessa and her ex... She better write a book or something if she does not show up in court.

Eagle County DA Mark Hurlbert said the Kobe case is a slam dunk. Therefore, Kate not needed to take the blue chair. Funny, they can't even get a trial date scheduled. So where is all the smoking gun evidence with Kobe DNA, Kobe force, Kobe beating, Kobe restraining, Kobe raping, Kobe....Kobe.....Kobe.....?

Hello Kate? You gonna save the Eagle County DAs?
Perhaps, Kobe didn't rape at all....but gave into her temptation for a quickie.
Perhaps, Kobe was enticed or Kobe found Kate attractive for a one-night-stand.

You answered you own question Ken. Tha case is a slam dunk. She does not have to tesitfy at all...why,, how could something be so concrete that when it is her word against his then she does not even need to tesitfy. HUN!!! Isn't that really weird. Where did this concrete evidience come from (a set up maybe- when you plan things out they always tend to go a little more smother)Kobe's attorneys fell right into the land mine. Man talk about not taking notes. They are taking the path of the set up. The evidence will say he is guilty because that is what it was suppose to do. Come on, didn't I tell you? They were betting on Kobe's attorney's not taking to proper channels and thus a innocent man may go to jail. YES!YES!YES Kobe was enticed for a quickie or a one night stand. That is all she had to do to make this stuff happend. All he had to do was stick it in and the balls went rolling (as well as his head-both em ). They know she is to weak to get on the stand. if they put her up there they might as well forget about winning. The truth will be written all in between the lines as if currently is. Man can someone give Kobe defense a e-mail, footnote, or a memo (or something) of this web site information.

YES, YES, YES.... we got the drift as to the lamed prosecution case and theory. Isn't going to be much of a case because there is NO such evidence for a criminal case.

No need to give Kobe defense this site...they're more capable and in legal hands. These BB are nothing more than rah, rah, rah.....shish Gumba! You get the drift, right?

OK Ken you got me a little lost with that one. UH!!! But anyway I am wondering have I convince you of the truth even without in-hand evidence. Do you believe a word I told you...

i sure as hell dont, call me when get back to real topics, not some fantasy thing

I am going to leave you two alone. But there will be pie very soon....(by the way seal3k I have no fantasies about this case) But I should of known that blind people can not see anyway so what did I exspect.
-Take care-

Signed;
That Damn Colorado Girl that told you first.

Would that be crow-pie?

Court of public opinion my ass!!! Maybe you but me, I know what happend, you just don't beleive because I have yet to tell you how I know. Crow pie, apple pie, cherry pie don't matter is will just in all in your face or should I say in sealk3's face.
You are right she willing did all of those things and scared rape. Not a regular rape case I'll tell you. Like I said all she had to do was make it happend, definately not a coquencedence. Have you went to the WELOVEKOBE website. Some mysterious woman had written a bunch of e-mails regadring the case. she had details of what happend before it was released to the public. I can guarntee you that this is Kate's friend. She said quotes like," Do you think Kate could come up with a well orchestrated plan by herself." Then she made a comment that all lies fall apart and so far this one has not." "If IT is found out that Kate is lieing then that means I will be made a fool and and trust me I will not be made a fool of" But the whole time this woman is protecting her and defending her (Kates)every word. She talks about how sorry she feels for her and this,that and the other... yet this woman is constantly putting her foot in her mouth... Quess what? No one even knows she is doing it, do you know why? Because they don't know what to look for. Look at things through my eye when you read these e-mail and tell me if evidence does not lie with that woman as well, no matter what she says, she keeps telling the story in between the lines I see the truth. But she is lying it on quick.
One more thing , yes he is in competent legal hands but those hands need to know what is is really holding....
-Have a nice weekend Ken!!!