Traveling in Time Becomes Possible |
| Posted by: Marc Flemming | | Black holes can take people to new dimensions
Moscow State University professor Dmitry Goltsov has recently announced about the sensational possibility to travel in time. Cosmologists discovered a new dimension that prejudiced Einstein's theory of relativity. The three-dimensional model is not actual anymore. Cosmologists believe, one may travel in time through black holes with the help of a time machine. The machine will be moving from one black hole to another, which will allow it to travel either to the relative future or the relative past. It will be easy to return to our times too. Yet, it is not known, to which extent the theory is correct - the time machine has not been invented yet.
The time machine has been a very popular subject for science fiction writers for decades. Yet, it is generally believed that the idea is absolutely unreal, on one has ever dreamed about it seriously. However, scientists start talking about such a possibility already now.
Russia's most outstanding cosmologist Valery Rubakov is the nation's youngest academician - he is 48 years old. The academician cannot travel in time, although he travels a lot in the real world. He spends most of his time abroad, as a lot of Russian talented scientists do. Valery Rubakov usually comes to Moscow in Indian summer - his favorite time of the year. The academician commented on Dmitry Goltsov's statement.
Modern physics does not exclude the existence of other dimensions in the world besides the three known ones. Einstein's classic theory of relativity does not work well at an ultra-small distance. According to Einstein, all forces are aimed toward infinity at a nucleus radius distance. The gravitation theory should be modified. The only way out is to make gravitation become quantum. It is justifiable from the philosophical point of view: if the entire substance possesses quantum properties and interacts with gravitation, it means that gravitation is of quantum nature. The graviton particle turns out to be the unit of gravitation field radiation.
This does not make a revolution, though. There is a theory of superstrings, which has been winning more and more followers of late, although a lot of Russian academicians think it is nonsense. The modern quantum theory of field takes a one-dimensional spot as an "elementary" object. In the superstrings theory, this object is a two-dimensional string. If photons and gravitons exist, the stable theory of the Universe can be formed only with the help of the superstrings theory, no matter how doubtful it might seem. The superstrings theory admits the existence of absolutely weightless null mass particles.
It is the superstrings theory that gives a possibility to imagine the world without contradictions. However, the theory can be built without contradictions only in the nine-dimensional space. People do not see other dimensions because they probably exist in the form of ultra-small rings, the size of a nucleus. Another version says that a particle is supposed to have a super-strong power to break away beyond conventional dimensions. Only a black hole could create such incredible conditions - it is possible to move to another dimension through a black hole.
Such experiments are currently being held in the USA, although there has not been any results achieved yet. Academician Rubakov stressed, it was going about ultimate particles. A more complicated object, not to mention a human being, would be smashed in a black hole. The superstrings theory is serious, although it seems fantastic.
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| Posted by: Nymphadora | | I just don't see it happening. There are too many unknowns. It's if this is true then it might be possible to do this if that happens. It all guess work. While I find it interesting, even somewhat amazing to think it might be possible, I just don't see it. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Benyamin | | I say this without any scientific evidence just my own pure logic.
I believe that time past is truly gone and can never be
returned to.
The paradoxes that would occur during backward time travel I believe are empirical proofs of such. If we could return to the past it would not be the same past that we know now. (because we would be there and we were never there before) a new time line would then suddenly exist. Basically what I am saying is.. that if somehow we could go back in time the resulting future would not be our future therefore we would be in another plane of existence.
(oh Einstein where are you when we need you)
Oh by the way my father wrote a sci fi novel regarding
time travel called "Bring The Jubilee" which was about
what the world would be like if the south had won the
civil war (just showing that I have thought about time
travel quite a bit.) | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: schmiggens | | Then theres always the paradox that we will never figure out time travel, because if we had done/ did, somone from the future would have already come back in time to tell us about it. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Sayzak | | lol good point schmiggens. But according to this theory, we'd have to go through a black hole to do it.
A black hole is a LONG way away. We're hundreds of years from developing the technology to even figure out how to get there.
Right now our solar system -- our entire galaxy is moving. Fast. We don't know where the black hole would take us. By 'where' I mean 'when' -relatively. Say we go through a black hole. How would we find our way back??? If we don't know 'when' we are, we couldn't possible know 'where' we are in the universe.
That said, maybe we DID travel through time. We may never know because those who survived going through a black hole got lost in space. Maybe they brought with them a becon of some kind? An indestrctable becon that we won't even be able to detect until we develop the technology to detect it. Maybe our "crew" is in suspended animation somewhere out there with that becon just waiting for "houstan" to find them floating around in the Universe. When they're re-animated, it will come to a complete shock to them that they were frozen in space for a thousand years, but because they were frozen in "time", and time is relative, they really didn't go anywhere... Woah.
I want to make that a book.  | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: BigBen4181 | | The odd thing is that time travel could already be real. Think about it, could we wake up one day and not know of Hitler, because someone went back in time and killed him at birth? All knowledge of him wiped from records and memories, how can we realize somethings gone, if there are no memories. We couldve had a best friend for 20 years but then he was killed in the past, and we wouldnt even realize it. Missing time phenomenon perhaps?????????????? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Sayzak | | Well, if Hitler died before he ever impacted history, the entire population of the planet would be different. Every event would be shifted, changed.
For instince:
Let's say back in 1969 my mother was driving to new york to meet her boyfriend. When she heard on the radio that we successfully landed on the moon she pulled over to tell the clerk at a gas station, and anyone else that didn't know, that we beat the russians to the moon. The clerk: My future father.
What if we went back in time and decided NOT to land onthe moon? I wouldn't even exist! Not only that, but I wouldn't have been there to save my grandma's life when she nearly drowned!
Hypothetically, that's just 2 lives totally affected by that change.
The effects of getting rid of hitler earlier would be even more detrimental. I think every single life on this planet would be effected.
If going back in time were possible and we COULD change history, we may accidently change history which would cause our "time machine" to never be created. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: rushi4687 | | if u go into a black hole, u die, time stops at the singularity of the black hole. u would be torn apart in a matter of milleseconds. no machine made of metal can go through a black hole.
P.S. Some black holes are actually smaller than atoms. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: schmiggens | | I had an arguement with some friends, they said time travel was possible, but you would have to move faster than the speed of light away from the object where you had your time reference.
So you could travel back in time, but as you would be moving away from the earth, you would be unable to change anything that happened there.
If you started to travel back towards the earth you would be moving forward in time again and would end up back where you started.
So if you are going back in time, you would only be able to observe, not participate.
I don't quite understand the theory, but it is interesting. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: chodder | | we need somone with the guts to drive a space ship right through one. we will never know if he lived or not but the guy who drove it will, but then die. one way mission with no return. if i knew i was going to die tomorow i would do it. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Edward Teach | |
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schmiggens said this in post #9 :
I had an arguement with some friends, they said time travel was possible, but you would have to move faster than the speed of light away from the object where you had your time reference.
So you could travel back in time, but as you would be moving away from the earth, you would be unable to change anything that happened there.
If you started to travel back towards the earth you would be moving forward in time again and would end up back where you started.
So if you are going back in time, you would only be able to observe, not participate.
I don't quite understand the theory, but it is interesting. |
Actually I don't know if I would call it going back in time. I think it would be more getting ahead of time or more precisely light. But you would only be getting ahead of what already happened on a visual aspect. Like traveling faster then the speed of sound. Eventually when you slow down the sound or in this case light will catch up to you. But you will see everything that happened in the past, then when the point you left catches up then you will see everything that happened after you left. Now if you return at a speed faster than light I should think that everything will speed up until you return. It would appear that you are moving forward in time when it actuallity it would be moving through light. So you would see everything like it was in fast forward on your VCR.
Now you may be able to go forward in time but then you probably would not be able to return. So what's the point, unless you just really want to be a part of the future. And the only way I could see that happening is to get stuck at the Event Horizon of a Black Hole. (Like Andramada) Problem there is whether or not you would survive with no food or water and you would probably have someone revive you once you leave the Event Horizon.
Now there maybe other theories out there and I'm not saying that it isn't possible given the unknowns. We don't know everything about the universe so therefore anything is possible.
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| Posted by: Kookaburra | | I don't think time travel is possible, as how can you visit a future when it isn't made yet, and how can you visit the past, when it's over? I think what's on the other side of black holes are other worlds and galaxies out of our reach. Perhaps other lives there. The problem with the time travel theory is that we would be dead before we reached the black hole. Is it even possible to travel to one in someone's life time, and then, who the heck wants to spend their life time just to get to the hole, only to die because we have a limited life span, and it was wasted on traveling to a destination? | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Edward Teach | | Well now Space Travel, that's a different matter all together. There is a theory that if you can fold space then you can travel vast amouts of space in a blink of an eye so to speak. Therefore you could actaully travel to a Black Hole in a fraction of time, of course once you get there then there is the problem about sustaining life. | | Reply To this Message
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| Posted by: Edward Teach | | We imagine space as when you look into the sky you see the nearest star (aside of our own) as being Proxima Centauri at 4.2 lightyears away. Therefore traveling in a straight line at the speed of light it would take you 4.2 years to get there. Imagine if you will; Put a dot on a piece of paper and another dot half way across the page on that same piece of paper. One being Earth and the other is Centauri. Now take that piece of paper and roll it. Now imagine a straight line connecting the two dots, suddenly Centauri is much closer. Now take that same piece of paper and fold it instead of forming a circle. The dots are even closer still. That is one the theory on space travel. | | Reply To this Message
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