A movie based on 1984? We don't need it... we LIVE it. They're watching US RIGHT NOW!
I USED to own a copy of 1984 that I bought for a college class... but someone borrowed it (aaa---HECK---choooo!) and never returned it. I'd love to read it again. I remember loving it and it freaking me out.
"I'm looking for love. Real love. Ridiculous, inconvenient, consuming, can't-live-without-each-other love." - Carrie Bradshaw
"The danger of an adventure is worth a thousand days of ease and comfort" - Paulo Coehlo
Live your life like it's your last day on earth
Life is not how many breaths you take, but how many moments take your breath away.
Because I ask for it, like, every time i see you .
There was a bit of 1984ishhhness in V for Vendetta... well, I thought anyway.
"I'm looking for love. Real love. Ridiculous, inconvenient, consuming, can't-live-without-each-other love." - Carrie Bradshaw
"The danger of an adventure is worth a thousand days of ease and comfort" - Paulo Coehlo
Live your life like it's your last day on earth
Life is not how many breaths you take, but how many moments take your breath away.
They already did a film on it in the 80's. I thought it sucked. The book was way better.
It would be a hard book to put in movie form, as most of the writing is on what Winston is thinking, not on what he is saying or doing.
Modern pop culture is mostly caught up in the Big Brother aspect of 1984, I.E., the government spying on you. To a lessor extent, popular culture is interested in the torture parts of the book.
In general, if you say Big Brother, or 1984, most people think of an oppressive government that is spying on you, and/or that tortures people.
However, I came away from the book with something else. I saw in it, the way that many people, myself included, think. The way we can believe two totally different viewpoints at once.
Or doublethink.
Winston's job was to change the newspapers, or record files, whatever they were, into what the new "truth" was. And even though he was the one changing the past, he believed the new lie and the old one as well, at the same time.
I went through an experience in church, where they made massive doctrinal changes, but would say that "this is what we believed all along". After I read 1984, I saw parts of Winston in myself, as that I believed two things at once on a lot of stuff. Since reading the book, I have done a fairly decent job of weeding that way of thinking out of my mind, but sad to say, there are still some things that I can't shake, can't stop myself from doublethink.
to use a cheap example, take the Bill Clinton, "I never inhaled" lie. I have no doublethink on that issue. I know it's a lie, that no one would put a MJ cig to their mouth and not inhale. It was a political lie, designed to deflect an embarrassing truth. So, no doublethink there.
On the flip side, I knew a minister once, I was up front by the podium and he walked up and asked this other guy if he had heard this certain sermon tape. The minister then told the man that he had not had time to listen to it, what was it about?
The man told him. Later in church, as the pastor was speaking, he told the congregation that he HAD heard the sermon tape, and that it was a good tape, and he gave a few points on it.
To this day, I have doublethink on this issue. One part of me believes what I saw and heard, and that the minister was a bald faced liar.
The other part of me believes that maybe I messed up and heard something wrong, that it's me that got something mixed up, because why would a minister lie like that about something so small and insignificant?
Winston doubted himself. He saw and heard truth or lies, like that Oceania was at war with one super nation, then the next day after if was changed, and they were at war with the OTHER super nation, he doubted himself, he did not understand what was real and what was false, if he was being lied to, or if he remembered wrong.
That's an interesting story Whidden. On the one hand, you trust what you heard: he didn't listen to the tape, then suddenly he had. However you feel that you misheard, since enough time has gone by that you can't be sure.
But don't think like that... think of it this way: why would the minister have asked for a quick run-down on the tape if he'd listened to it? You should follow that fellow around and taunt him for being such a putz.
I found a page on imdb about a 1984 movie being made for 2007. But I can't view details because I'm not a pro user or something.
"I'm for it so we can put Nuclear power plants up there, and then beam the power back to earth on a laser beam." ~ Whidden
Well, until reading the book, I never knew I thought like that, it was like a mental defect, I was so close to it, I never saw it.
After reading the book, I saw I thought like that on a lot of things and have since tried to weed it out of my life. But I'm only 95% weeded, I still need some hedge trimming. And some phosphorus for my roots.
Like every time I send an email with an attachment I have to check it ten times to make sure I sent the correct attachment. Otherwise I won't be able to function correctly.
Like I said, that's just paranoia. Something that just isn't an issue in 1984
"I'm for it so we can put Nuclear power plants up there, and then beam the power back to earth on a laser beam." ~ Whidden
gaboman said this in post #9 : I do it too, but just 'cause I'm paranoid.
Like every time I send an email with an attachment I have to check it ten times to make sure I sent the correct attachment. Otherwise I won't be able to function correctly.
Like I said, that's just paranoia. Something that just isn't an issue in 1984
You need some time in room 101. The ministry of LOVE is going to make you see the light brother. They will get rid of your paranoia and make you a creature of light.
Speaking of room 101 and the books ending, it was true horror.
There is no hope in the book, none at all. Winston knows he will be caught, he knows that he will do little or nothing to hurt or stop Big Brother and the system that he represents, he knows it is all going to end with torture and death,
but the one small ounce of hope is that Winston will hold on to what he knows, that in itself is the victory, that he knows the TRUTH, and he will keep it till the end.
However, the last four words of the book are horrifying, as we see that this final hope and wish that he was holding onto was destroyed by the party, the wish that he would hold onto the Truth, and even though tortured and dead, he would go out with the knowledge of what was going on in the world.
But sadly, all of it, his love for his woman, his hatred of the system, his revelation that the world he lived in one was one big lie,
04-11-2006 01:47 AM
